Post by: KFhunter on May 24, 2018, 07:11:17 PM
Was it a wolf, some type of hybrid, or a creature that hasn't been seen in Montana since the Ice Age?
On May 16 a lone wolf-like animal was shot and killed on a ranch outside Denton. With long grayish fur, a large head and an extended snout, the animal shared many of the same characteristics as a wolf; but its ears were too large, it's legs and body too short, its fur uncharacteristic of that common to a wolf.
So what was it? At this point, no one is 100 percent sure.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2a8367e43d5e247b2d92869ab22245a8df78f905/c=0-0-1536-2048&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2018/05/24/GreatFalls/GreatFalls/636627587841708143-Wolf-like-creature.jpg)
Post by: Ridgeratt on May 24, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on May 24, 2018, 07:33:48 PM
I don't thinks it's a bear though
Post by: Alchase on May 24, 2018, 07:34:53 PM
Looks like a brown wolf?
Post by: Bango skank on May 24, 2018, 07:38:40 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on May 24, 2018, 07:43:55 PM
Post by: pd on May 24, 2018, 10:00:22 PM
Post by: LongBomb on May 24, 2018, 11:00:11 PM
:yeah: :chuckle: Cmon really?? I'm guessing some wild purebred dog/wolf mutt.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 24, 2018, 11:31:24 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on May 25, 2018, 05:01:38 AM
Post by: jasnt on May 25, 2018, 05:14:25 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on May 25, 2018, 09:07:56 AM
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on May 25, 2018, 09:09:56 AM
Post by: PastorJoel on May 25, 2018, 09:13:17 AM
Right? :chuckle:
Post by: bearpaw on May 25, 2018, 09:25:04 AM
Post by: N7XW on May 25, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on May 25, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 25, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
It could be an illegal zoo, and the people are just staying quite right now for fear of Johnny Law.
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Just saw MT FWP news release, they are pretty certain that it's a canid, so my theory is all wet. Most African canids are all the small size, but a African Cape Dog (kind of a misnomer because they are a fully wild breed) could be a good match
Post by: Henrydog on May 25, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
Post by: wrchinook on May 25, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on June 03, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
Post by: jasnt on June 03, 2018, 05:33:04 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on June 04, 2018, 11:12:37 PM
What are you guys seeing that make you doubt it's a wolf?
Post by: yakimanoob on June 04, 2018, 11:14:59 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 05, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
Honestly... this just looks like a wolf to me. Maybe a wolf-dog or coy-wolf I guess, but from the very very limited photos, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a weird looking 100% wolf.Feet are way too small for one, ears are too big and unusual shape. I think it's a dog or possibly wolf-dog hybrid. Whatever it is, it looks like it is regrowing it's coat after a severe case of mange or other skin disease.
What are you guys seeing that make you doubt it's a wolf?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 05, 2018, 09:54:23 AM
Post by: elkchaser54 on June 06, 2018, 11:51:28 AM
Post by: MonstroMuley on June 07, 2018, 09:20:24 PM
Montana Game and Fish came out and said it was a wolf with Mange.
Was that MT FWP Twitter Feed [https://twitter.com/MontanaFWP/status/1000124182456397826]
or the Website [http://fwp.mt.gov/]?
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 07, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
Montana Game and Fish came out and said it was a wolf with Mange.
Can't verify that anywhere
Post by: MonstroMuley on June 07, 2018, 10:40:53 PM
Can't verify that anywhere
:yeah:
Post by: Bigshooter on June 07, 2018, 11:22:57 PM
Post by: JJB11B on June 07, 2018, 11:26:29 PM
Thank God it was shot in Mt, WDFW would already have the rancher in solitary in Walla Walla if it happened heregetting fed double trays, and given double yards
Post by: Old Mule on June 10, 2018, 06:42:11 AM
Post by: bigmacc on June 10, 2018, 09:37:59 AM
It's a Wolf with it's ears frostbit, seen a few Horses from Montana with the same ears.
:tup:, I remember back in "68" in the Methow, a lot of horses, other livestock and even pets came out of that flash freeze with ears looking like that,(the ones that survived anyway) I,ll be darned, I didn't even remember that until you brought it up. Good call!
Post by: Bill W on June 10, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 10, 2018, 12:41:04 PM
I'm thinking this will come out wolf hound as in the dogs that were used to kill wolves.
You could be right
Post by: Bullkllr on June 10, 2018, 01:40:40 PM
I'm thinking this will come out wolf hound as in the dogs that were used to kill wolves.
You could be right
It does look similar.
I'm imagining a rancher had a big bad wolf hound sent out to kill wolves, but on at least one occasion the wolf hound had other ideas on his mind. :dunno:
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 10, 2018, 01:44:58 PM
I'm imagining a rancher had a big bad wolf hound sent out to kill wolves, but on at least one occasion the wolf hound had other ideas on his mind. :dunno:
No news source is reporting that the animal shot was doing anything of the sort
Post by: paultanninen on June 12, 2018, 08:16:24 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 12, 2018, 08:41:56 AM
I'm imagining a rancher had a big bad wolf hound sent out to kill wolves, but on at least one occasion the wolf hound had other ideas on his mind. :dunno:
No news source is reporting that the animal shot was doing anything of the sort
I think he's suggesting it's a wolfhound/wolf hybrid. Could be.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 12, 2018, 08:55:08 AM
I'm imagining a rancher had a big bad wolf hound sent out to kill wolves, but on at least one occasion the wolf hound had other ideas on his mind. :dunno:
No news source is reporting that the animal shot was doing anything of the sort
I think he's suggesting it's a wolfhound/wolf hybrid. Could be.
Gotcha.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 12, 2018, 01:58:55 PM
That's a grizzly cub," one commentator wrote. "Under a year and starving from the look."
:yeah: :chuckle: Cmon really?? I'm guessing some wild purebred dog/wolf mutt.
I don't know who the guy is that wrote this article, but it looks like he perused the internet for the stupidest ideas first... :chuckle:
Post by: bearpaw on June 18, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
DNA results show mysterious canine is a wolf
Fish & Wildlife
Monday, June 18, 2018
The canine creature shot in Montana a month ago that captured the curiosity of the nation is actually a gray wolf.
DNA from the animal, which was shot legally by a rancher near Denton on May 16, was tested at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service forensic laboratory in Ashland, Ore. The lab compared the animal’s DNA with thousands of other DNA samples from wolves, coyotes and dogs. The conclusion was clear – this animal is a gray wolf from the northern Rocky Mountains.
Confusion about the animal might be due to the condition of the animal and the photos, which seemed to show short legs and big ears. Inspection of the animal at the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks wildlife health lab in Bozeman revealed a relatively normal looking, dark brown wolf.
Physical variations aren’t unusual for animals, said Mary Curtis, geneticist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
“Within species there can be variability that’s not surprising at all,” Curtis said.
The wolf was a non-lactating female, which means she didn’t have a litter of pups. However, any unique physical features she has might also appear in her siblings or parents and may continue to be passed along by others in her family. The wolf measured 45 inches from the tip of the nose to the rump and weighed 84.5 pounds. It’s estimated that the wolf was between 2 and 3 years old.
Wolves are fairly common in Montana. According to the 2017 Montana Gray Wolf Program Annual Report, population estimates suggest there are approximately 900 wolves in Montana. This marks the 13th consecutive year that Montana has far exceeded wolf recovery goals.
Property owners in Montana have broad legal authority to shoot wolves they feel might be a threat to their livestock, as was the case with this wolf near Denton.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 18, 2018, 10:32:50 AM
Pretty sure it's a grizzly bear... :rolleyes:
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 18, 2018, 10:32:58 AM
Post by: 2labs on June 18, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
I guess the Gubnit shouldn’t breed their Wolves so close to the Chem Trail facility. People are gonna take notice! :bdid:
This. Absastupidly!! :yeah: :twocents: :twocents:=4
Post by: nwwanderer on June 18, 2018, 07:36:59 PM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on June 19, 2018, 05:43:07 AM
God rest her black soul.
Just kidding, looks like a wolf.