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Title: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: hunterednate on June 01, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Disclaimer: this is an utterly hypothetical and wildly speculative topic, but since it's June, what better time to daydream?

Question: what would be your strategy if you drew the three-deer raffle tag offered by WDFW? (Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, any weapon type, one additional blacktail, whitetail, mule deer) Which units/species would you target first? Which would you save for last? In other words, how would you go about killing a quality specimen of each species in one season?

IMO, this would be one of the funnest hunts to plan for and execute (as long as you've got plenty of vacation time), so I'm curious to see how you guys would go about it.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Rainier10 on June 01, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
I would go for a whitetail in the early season, blacktail at the end of October early November and whack a muley late November early December.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: bearpaw on June 01, 2018, 01:43:47 PM
I would go for a whitetail in the early season, blacktail at the end of October early November and whack a muley late November early December.

 :tup: :tup: agreed
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 01, 2018, 01:51:15 PM
 I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: vandeman17 on June 01, 2018, 01:56:14 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

I would tend to agree. I would spend a little time in October during the BT rut then all november into early december would be MD. During this time I would have a few tree stands hung with some alfalfa and grain out to kill my WT in mid December. 
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 01, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:
:yeah: except I’d probly set the mule deer bar a bit lower. Maybe 180.  :tung:  preseason scouting would be geared toward muledeer but I would efinitely have trailcams up for Whitetail as well in case I could find a Apple loving giant for sept 1. . Then November I would hit Whitetail hard provides the mule deer is filled.
I would probably make a few day trip to the west side in early November to get a blacktail. But wouldn’t be picky.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 01, 2018, 02:03:12 PM
Correction to my prior post.... my preseason scouting would consist of giving karl a fuel stipend to track me down a mule deer  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 01, 2018, 02:17:36 PM
Correction to my prior post.... my preseason scouting would consist of giving karl a fuel stipend to track me down a mule deer  :chuckle:
it would consume my every free minute.  I wouldn't relinquish any of your boolits for a 180" deer though.  Not with a 4 month season :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 01, 2018, 02:52:46 PM
Funny, I was just thinking about this same thing.

I'd probably give BT's a few days worth at the first of November after the OTC season closed and I had the woods to myself.  Either that, or maybe an early season trip into the high country.   But I wouldn't spend more than 3-4 days on BT.  I'd spend the bulk of my time at the end of November and December focused on MD, Mission and north.  For WT, I'd bank on finding a decent WT somewhere in the Entiat or Okanogan while looking for MD. 
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: shanevg on June 01, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 01, 2018, 03:10:52 PM
I would take from about Nov 7-thanksgiving off and get a monster in all 3!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Stein on June 01, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

 :yeah:

I usually fill my MT whitetail tag by spotting a forky in a field on the way back to camp while elk hunting.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 01, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle: 
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 01, 2018, 04:20:55 PM
First I'd ply this and other sites for experienced deer watchers with hearts of gold, and plead with them like Rachel Dolezal applying for welfare, to put the crosshairs on the giant bucks they only see outside of the season; just send me geotagged photos of the monsters, and if it's not too much to ask, help pack him out.

On the off-chance that didn't work, I'd surreptitiously wire a satellite transmitter to the Boneaddict truck, and during November-December anywhere his truck was out of town in one spot for more than an hour, go there the next day.  That should take care of the eastside deer.

For blacktail, I'd wire Karl Blanchard $40 for gas and take him west with me the day after late buck.  Dress him in appropriate PPE, dowse him with estrus doe pee, and send him in with a machete to beat the blackberries, nettles and devil's club until a 3-point or better buck walks into my sights.   
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: jackelope on June 01, 2018, 04:40:45 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle: 

You could find some pretty nice "blacktails" close to the crest.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: brocka on June 01, 2018, 04:57:39 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

I would do exactly this...
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: bearpaw on June 01, 2018, 05:05:19 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle:

Wouldn't you go for the mule deer tag rather than the three specie tag if all you want to hunt is MD?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Pegasus on June 01, 2018, 05:11:11 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle:

Wouldn't you go for the mule deer tag rather than the three specie tag if all you want to hunt is MD?  :dunno:

Odds of the raffle are with the buyer of the three deer option versus mule deer.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: bearpaw on June 01, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle:

Wouldn't you go for the mule deer tag rather than the three specie tag if all you want to hunt is MD?  :dunno:

Odds of the raffle are with the buyer of the three deer option versus mule deer.

Thanks, I didn't know that!  :tup:   
But that probably just got messed up!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 01, 2018, 05:20:03 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle:

Wouldn't you go for the mule deer tag rather than the three specie tag if all you want to hunt is MD?  :dunno:

Odds of the raffle are with the buyer of the three deer option versus mule deer.

Thanks, I didn't know that!  :tup:   
But that probably just got messed up!  :chuckle:
And the thread asked about the 3 deer raffle specifically.
Go make a mule deer raffle thread if you want.
This ones about the 3.

Don’t make me report your post!  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 01, 2018, 05:43:59 PM
I wouldn’t worry about strategy because that raffles mine. I’ll let you know strategy after I have filled all three. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: nalley112 on June 01, 2018, 06:06:25 PM
i would have my 200'' muley picked out by mid august, hold out till november for the beautiful hide, unless i felt that i couldnt hold out any longer.. :chuckle: then on to whitetail next and blacktail if i had time left in the season for that
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: warthog on June 01, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
i'd do a swap hunt with a blacktailer for a whitetail on my place.  for a whitetail i'd make coffee and open the curtains and watch for him.  might do the same with a muley but i think i might get more aggressive and go look for a biggun.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: X-Force on June 01, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
Instead of size I would try and harvest 3 bucks in a very small geographic area. I think I could do it in a 10 mile radius for all three species.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: wheels on June 01, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
avoid the stress just put in for muley
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Limhangerslayer on June 01, 2018, 09:26:57 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:
all of what Karl said, plus id make sure I had a couch to sleep on after my wife kicked me out for hunting four straight months! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2018, 09:47:07 PM
I'd use September and the first half of October for the 2 east side deer then the rest hunting Blacktails !!!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: 3nails on June 01, 2018, 10:37:15 PM
 I'd hunt the beautiful blacktail until I found the right one. Then I'd rattle the tasty whitetail. Lastly I'd hunt the ugly mule deer, make sausage out of the meat and give it away.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: X-Force on June 01, 2018, 11:05:55 PM
I'd hunt the beautiful blacktail until I found the right one. Then I'd rattle the tasty whitetail. Lastly I'd hunt the ugly mule deer, make sausage out of the meat and give it away.  :chuckle:

blasphemy! 
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Bigshooter on June 02, 2018, 12:05:24 AM
I'd hunt mule deer for 4 months and burn the other 2 tags.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: coachcw on June 02, 2018, 07:04:15 AM
Have Karl find you a big buck , then wait four months in till you find him with a broken main beam !
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 02, 2018, 07:40:23 AM
Have Karl find you a big buck , then wait four months in till you find him with a broken main beam !
  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: that was so sad!  He was all broke up!  G2 and g4 on the other side too
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Jpmiller on June 02, 2018, 08:04:41 AM
Honestly I'd probably go out and shoot the first legal deer I saw starting in september. I'm not clear on if you get to keep your regular tag as well so if I do I might start getting picky with that one come mid September when my three raffle tags are filled. Three deer in the freezer excites me more than three on the wall, but if a big one happens to cross my path and I have an unotched tag I won't be disappointed. Or if one of you guys wants to do the legwork in pointing out a big one to me just so I don't "waste" the tag lol. I wouldn't ask for help with a pack out though  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 02, 2018, 11:36:56 AM
Honestly I'd probably go out and shoot the first legal deer I saw starting in september. I'm not clear on if you get to keep your regular tag as well so if I do I might start getting picky with that one come mid September when my three raffle tags are filled. Three deer in the freezer excites me more than three on the wall, but if a big one happens to cross my path and I have an unotched tag I won't be disappointed. Or if one of you guys wants to do the legwork in pointing out a big one to me just so I don't "waste" the tag lol. I wouldn't ask for help with a pack out though  :chuckle:
they are additional tags. You would still be able to harvest a deer on your general tag.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: mossback636 on June 02, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Dreaming is cheap! Haha I’d take a 140 in black tail over a 200 in Muley any day! Although all 3 species are great in their own ways!  I’d hunt black tail the first week of November and would be torn on what to do next! Probably go after a muley and hope to find a decent whitey after that!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: jackelope on June 02, 2018, 05:02:11 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180603/e947975ae970827fe1763456ea146b1a.jpg)

Is this a shooter blacktail worthy of notching a raffle tag?

Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Jpmiller on June 02, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Honestly I'd probably go out and shoot the first legal deer I saw starting in september. I'm not clear on if you get to keep your regular tag as well so if I do I might start getting picky with that one come mid September when my three raffle tags are filled. Three deer in the freezer excites me more than three on the wall, but if a big one happens to cross my path and I have an unotched tag I won't be disappointed. Or if one of you guys wants to do the legwork in pointing out a big one to me just so I don't "waste" the tag lol. I wouldn't ask for help with a pack out though  :chuckle:
they are additional tags. You would still be able to harvest a deer on your general tag.

Perfect then my plan is set. Now to wait for the results.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2018, 05:56:06 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180603/e947975ae970827fe1763456ea146b1a.jpg)

Is this a shooter blacktail worthy of notching a raffle tag?
i would consider pulling the trigger on him  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: bobcat on June 02, 2018, 06:10:25 PM
Everyone talks about hunting mule deer late but it could also be good to hunt the first week of September in the high country. Scout all summer and find a buck you want, and kill him the first day of September.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 02, 2018, 06:33:54 PM
Have Karl find you a big buck , then wait four months in till you find him with a broken main beam !
  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: that was so sad!  He was all broke up!  G2 and g4 on the other side too
That’s what you get for not taking the first day for the mule deer!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 02, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
Everyone talks about hunting mule deer late but it could also be good to hunt the first week of September in the high country. Scout all summer and find a buck you want, and kill him the first day of September.
why waste a raffle tag on a buck sept 1 in the high country when you could use a general tag on September 15 on the high hunt.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 02, 2018, 07:02:30 PM
I also love the talk of the 200” mule deer like there around every tree. Some people hunt for a decade in some premier states and never even see a buck of that caliber. Your doing pretty good for yourself if you can find a 180-190 buck in this state. The average joe doesn’t have the cash to pay the finder fees that a whale can.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: bobcat on June 02, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
Everyone talks about hunting mule deer late but it could also be good to hunt the first week of September in the high country. Scout all summer and find a buck you want, and kill him the first day of September.
why waste a raffle tag on a buck sept 1 in the high country when you could use a general tag on September 15 on the high hunt.  :twocents:

True but I think you have a better chance the first week of September of catching them out in the open, still in their summer routine. It would just be something to try for a guy who's in shape for that kind of hunt. Me, I'd be hunting them late.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 02, 2018, 08:55:56 PM
Everyone talks about hunting mule deer late but it could also be good to hunt the first week of September in the high country. Scout all summer and find a buck you want, and kill him the first day of September.
why waste a raffle tag on a buck sept 1 in the high country when you could use a general tag on September 15 on the high hunt.  :twocents:

True but I think you have a better chance the first week of September of catching them out in the open, still in their summer routine. It would just be something to try for a guy who's in shape for that kind of hunt. Me, I'd be hunting them late.  :chuckle:
they run the same pattern on the 15th as they do on the 1st. Last two weeks of December hunting mule deer is a blast!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Westside88 on June 02, 2018, 09:01:49 PM
With these three opportunities my goal would be to kill a good mature example of each species. Because I live in an area I could find a good black tail I’d start looking for him as soon as I received the news I was drawn, with the goal of taking a good blacktail as soon as possible after Sept 1. My next (and highest) priority would be Mule deer, I’d spend as much time as I could hunting and learning any new areas that I wanted to be ready for the last week of October thru Mid November. I already have a general deer tag, so that could be used during regular season if a good buck was found, or a whitetail that may be encountered during this time. My goal for the Muledeer with the special tag would be 180+ ( harder than it sounds) lastly it would be time to get after a whitetail, hopefully at this point there would be good rut timing to find a good one. All the other field time and contacts made would be likely to help with this one. It’d be tough to do these opportunities well, that’s a lot of time
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 03, 2018, 08:44:51 AM
I also love the talk of the 200” mule deer like there around every tree. Some people hunt for a decade in some premier states and never even see a buck of that caliber. Your doing pretty good for yourself if you can find a 180-190 buck in this state. The average joe doesn’t have the cash to pay the finder fees that a whale can.
   they are absolutely not behind every bush but some folks know where to look for them, they just can't get the tag required to hunt them.  :tup:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 03, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
I also love the talk of the 200” mule deer like there around every tree. Some people hunt for a decade in some premier states and never even see a buck of that caliber. Your doing pretty good for yourself if you can find a 180-190 buck in this state. The average joe doesn’t have the cash to pay the finder fees that a whale can.
   they are absolutely not behind every bush but some folks know where to look for them, they just can't get the tag required to hunt them.  :tup:
those some people must be pretty special guys :tup:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: hunterednate on June 03, 2018, 02:33:58 PM
I would put 100% of my time and energy into killing a 200"+ mule deer.  If I had some spare days I'd go find a whitetail.  After that I'd spend my remaining days gazing upon my mule deer.  Blacktails don't interest me in the slightest.  Sorry blacktail guys :chuckle:

Crazy man.   :chuckle:
I wouldn't even be will to spend $40 on a tank of gas to get over there for a weekend :chuckle: 

You could find some pretty nice "blacktails" close to the crest.

Ha! That would be my Sept. strategy, for sure. Find a "blacktail" like this guy I photographed just a few miles west of the PCT a couple years ago, then head straight east to try to find a decent whitetail still in its summer pattern. November and December in migration hunts for mule deer. Would be pickiest about the mule deer, for sure, but would be thrilled just get mature specimens of each in one season.
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Watimberghost on June 03, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
Awesome pic! Thats a stud, no matter what side of the PCT he's on :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: crabcreekhunter on June 03, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
Sept 1st would dump a 185" muley in the high country in full velvet, never had a chance to do that and snow/November is cold.  Throw him in the freezer jump across the crest, roll a 155" bench leg in the high country.  And then smoke a 165"+ muley in general season and eat the rat deer tag since the freezer is full!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 04, 2018, 10:01:28 PM
Road hunt the entire state of Washington in November!!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: nalley112 on June 04, 2018, 11:29:32 PM
It would be hard to pass up a buck like this on in Sept! There will never be 200” deer around every bush or draw in any state.. but Washington does have  some great deer and if I had the tag would scout every single Cham e out to find one of those bucks.. I get out July and August looking for bucks and actually find my fair share of giant Washington bucks.. just like Karl said moat don’t have the tags or know where to go and find bucks of that caliber..
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 05, 2018, 05:48:50 AM
Kill a local blacktail in late Oct then go to Idaho in Nov and kill two more deer...that's 3 right.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: Critter Ritter on June 07, 2018, 06:32:45 PM
probably a dumb question to ask but just wanted to make sure,
if you draw the 3 deer tag do you get to harvest all three species any time through Sept 1st-Dec 31st and have all the tags in your pocket at the same time?
OR does the WDFW limit you to choose which species to hunt first than once you harvest the first species, WDFW will let you choose the second species and so on and so fourth?
Again probably a dumb question to ask but just wanted to make sure on what the process is.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Three-Deer Raffle Strategy
Post by: huntnphool on June 08, 2018, 12:18:19 AM
probably a dumb question to ask but just wanted to make sure,
if you draw the 3 deer tag do you get to harvest all three species any time through Sept 1st-Dec 31st and have all the tags in your pocket at the same time?
OR does the WDFW limit you to choose which species to hunt first than once you harvest the first species, WDFW will let you choose the second species and so on and so fourth?
Again probably a dumb question to ask but just wanted to make sure on what the process is.
Thanks in advance!

 You can hunt any and all, whenever you want, in the allotted time frame. ;)
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