Post by: hunter399 on June 02, 2018, 05:27:36 PM
H4831 powder
CCI magnum large rifle primers
160 gr nosler acubonds
160 gr Hot cor soft points
The goal is to reach 3000 fps , but don't have crony,And I know that I may have to go with a different powder , but wanna try with this first.
I will post a pic of load data that I do have.Do you guys think it's possible to work this load half grain at a time up to 64 or 65 grain load from what I can tell every two grains add about 100 fps to load .
Any advise,so someone who already has used this powder for this type of load please chime in.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 02, 2018, 05:51:19 PM
Post by: JeffRaines on June 02, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
Another thing, I think I’d try something like h1000 or RL26 with those bullet weights. At least in my experience, the slower powders tend to work better in the bigger cases. I know that’s not always the rule, but it’s whats worked for me.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 02, 2018, 06:30:55 PM
And also I second getting a Chrono. If you were near Spokane I’d meet you and chrono your ammo.
Edit. Saw your location. If you ever shoot at mica let me know and we can meet and slap my chrono on your gun.
Post by: h20hunter on June 02, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Post by: hunter399 on June 02, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
From your OP I think you are making a mistake that most have including me. Why set the goal of fps? Accuracy kills, not speed. Get you load accurate then tweek out fps. I use rl26 and avg 3100 but that is with a Travis tack driver. Also, thats shooting a 180 gr berger.
That is sound advise I guess I should of said all my goals ,is 3000 fps , and 1in groups at 500 yards at least that's what you hope for.ya I won't even use a load for hunting unless I can consistently kill milk jugs at 500 yards with a 100 percent hit rate out of ten shots.
intell I can afford a crony I will work up load starting at 60 grains ,load three rounds half grain higher each time ,shoot for accuracy and high pressure signs ,intell I see high pressure,then back off to most accurate load I think ,crony or no crony ,the gun tell me when it's time to stop I guess.
Post by: Hilltop123 on June 02, 2018, 08:44:36 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 02, 2018, 08:47:43 PM
1" groups at 500, with a stock rifle? You have high expectations, good luck!Only with a 6.5 CM ! :chuckle:
Post by: hunter399 on June 02, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
1 in at 100 yards would make me happy though,moa of milkjug at 500 would be ok.
Post by: hunterofelk on June 03, 2018, 08:30:59 AM
In my 7mag I tried Hornady's all copper bullet which is supposed to create lower pressure so you can push the charge a little more for higher velocity. I use RL 22. With neck-sized cases, the groups are very consistently small.
Post by: M_ray on June 03, 2018, 09:01:40 AM
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Post by: Biggerhammer on June 03, 2018, 12:19:32 PM
H-1000 is your friend. 69.5 grains and a 168 grain berger just off the lands is the money for mine.
Great powder for the 7mm Magnum. I’ve used it allot in the 7mm WSM chambering also. Great for big temperature swings. 50-60 degree fall season and 100 degree days shooting chucks with the same load.
Post by: huntnphool on June 03, 2018, 01:42:09 PM
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Post by: birddogdad on June 05, 2018, 06:26:09 AM
From your OP I think you are making a mistake that most have including me. Why set the goal of fps? Accuracy kills, not speed. Get you load accurate then tweek out fps. I use rl26 and avg 3100 but that is with a Travis tack driver. Also, thats shooting a 180 gr berger.
:yeah: and I'm right there with 168 bergers and h1000.... in my 7mag... find the guns sweet spot for accuracy not goal of speed~ recommend OP goes back to research on what they are doing here.....
Post by: C-Money on June 05, 2018, 07:31:42 AM
Post by: JeffRaines on June 05, 2018, 11:59:49 AM
You can almost wring that out of a 7mm-08 while burning less powder.
You can get close to 3k out of a -06 with the right load/barrel. You can shoot 180s out of an 06 at 2750-2800. All with less powder.
I get that accuracy trumps, but at the end of the day I want what I paid for. If I buy a 7mag, I want 7mag velocities. If I wanted less, I'd buy a 280 or 7mm-08.
Post by: h20hunter on June 05, 2018, 12:13:01 PM
Post by: C-Money on June 05, 2018, 02:53:08 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 04:03:18 PM
Very true Jeff. This is why I dont hunt with the 7mm rem mag. I CAN get very similar results with a .270 win, 7mm-08 with less recoil. Getting a 160gr bullet over 3000fps out of a 7mm rem mag is really maxing out the cartridge. May need to bump up the the 7mm Rem Ultra mag to get those velocities consistently with more powder choices.It really isn’t that difficult to get 3000 with 160 class bullets. My factory win 70 is shooting 162 Eld x at 3070 with retumbo
Post by: BigGoonTuna on June 06, 2018, 04:24:09 AM
Very true Jeff. This is why I dont hunt with the 7mm rem mag. I CAN get very similar results with a .270 win, 7mm-08 with less recoil. Getting a 160gr bullet over 3000fps out of a 7mm rem mag is really maxing out the cartridge. May need to bump up the the 7mm Rem Ultra mag to get those velocities consistently with more powder choices.sounds a lot like my frustration with my old .264 mag. mine was almost impossible to get any kind of respectable velocity out of...with a 24" barrel, it would barely do 6.5 creedmoor velocities(think 2700FPS with 140s) with book data. it was pretty consistent though...always around 300fps less than what the load manuals called for. i did load it hot enough to hit 2950 with 140s and 3100 with 120s, but going 4 or 5 grains over the max is a bit spooky. i ended up trading it for a really nice .270, which will outrun that .264 without breaking a sweat, without the headache of reloading a belted cartridge.
wouldn't mind another someday...but with a 26 or 28" barrel.
Post by: birddogdad on June 06, 2018, 06:20:41 AM
Very true Jeff. This is why I dont hunt with the 7mm rem mag. I CAN get very similar results with a .270 win, 7mm-08 with less recoil. Getting a 160gr bullet over 3000fps out of a 7mm rem mag is really maxing out the cartridge. May need to bump up the the 7mm Rem Ultra mag to get those velocities consistently with more powder choices.
love my 7mag, yea its a hot loader.. starting to look into a 28 nosler.... has my attention.... think I may even be able to re- barrel my existing gun to run that round... 7 mag performance now in a much heavier bullet... as far as recoil, just brake it and that goes away....
Post by: hunter399 on June 06, 2018, 06:49:58 AM
But as far on paper that's the load I need to hit.