Post by: KFhunter on June 04, 2018, 12:44:35 AM
Reward leading to conviction now at $15,000
The Stevens County Cattlemen’s Association recently increased the reward amount they are offering for information that leads to a conviction of those responsible for shooting, killing and maiming cattle in Stevens County. Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves. An anonymous supporter from Western Washington recently donated $10,000 towards the reward in an effort to catch those responsible.
“We have been running a reward ad for the last several years to try and catch those who are responsible for this,” said SCCA President Justin Hedrick. “No matter how you feel about wolves or any cattle related issue, it is cowardly and cruel to take it out on an animal. We are working with local law enforcement on this issue and have accepted the donation to increase the reward amount.”
Hedrick said SCCA will pay out $15,000 a year for information leading to a conviction related to the cattle deaths. Those with information regarding the attacks on cattle are encouraged to call the Stevens County or Ferry County Sheriff’s offices or call SCCA directly at 680-3497.
Whoever that is from W WA hats off :tup:
Post by: bigtex on June 04, 2018, 10:16:54 AM
Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
Post by: idaho guy on June 04, 2018, 12:01:11 PM
Post by: jasnt on June 04, 2018, 12:14:22 PM
Post by: KFhunter on June 04, 2018, 12:14:32 PM
Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
I don't think it's 99% chance of being unrelated. The anti-grazing, anti-cattle sentiment has risen dramatically since the wedge pack was killed. Even here on HW no one really talked about public grazing rights before wolves and the bundy deal, but now I could point to quite a few hostile posts towards cattle and ranchers, and that's coming from hunters not peta, not defenders of wildlife, not conservation northwest (ok maybe a few of those guys on here :chuckle: ) .....point is the anti-cattle sentiment has risen sharply since 2012.
So IMO, not that big of a leap, but yes it is speculation that wolf huggers are killing cows in retaliation for wolves being killed.
It could also be someone peeved at the cows getting into their garden, they live on free range they have to fence them out but not everyone knows that. That's been going on forever too.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 04, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
That said, given the emotional extremism of the folks on both ends of the wolf debate, I could see extreme wolf lovers shooting cattle as some kind of insane "justice" in wolf conflict areas; or crazy wolf haters shooting cattle in wolf conflict areas to put the blame on wolf lovers. Nuts is nuts.
Post by: KFhunter on June 04, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
I bolded the part above with you in mind in the opening post, I know you think I hate everyone west of the cascade crest but that's not the case at all. Ya I get frustrated, and that shows here time to time, but I wanted to point out there are great people on your side of the state that do care about the issues we face here in E WA.
Post by: bearpaw on June 04, 2018, 05:31:33 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on June 04, 2018, 06:39:56 PM
Post by: GBoyd on June 04, 2018, 07:07:49 PM
Imma go read the bigfoot thread.
Post by: idahohuntr on June 05, 2018, 10:02:51 PM
These are not animal rights or environmental activists...that's just a dumb idea being pushed for political purposes. If cattle operations were being interfered with that did not directly involve shooting or harming animals I would say for sure it's them...cutting fences, damaging equipment etc. are how enviro wackos act. This is plain ol criminal activity by dumb kids, annoyed neighbors, or some locals with a grudge.Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
Post by: Oh Mah on June 05, 2018, 11:13:28 PM
https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/21-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals/
Post by: KFhunter on June 05, 2018, 11:14:04 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on June 05, 2018, 11:23:15 PM
Post by: bigtex on June 06, 2018, 10:02:27 AM
I agree.These are not animal rights or environmental activists...that's just a dumb idea being pushed for political purposes. If cattle operations were being interfered with that did not directly involve shooting or harming animals I would say for sure it's them...cutting fences, damaging equipment etc. are how enviro wackos act. This is plain ol criminal activity by dumb kids, annoyed neighbors, or some locals with a grudge.Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
Someone shoots a cow in King County its a dumb kid, poacher, etc.
Someone shoots a cow in Stevens County its a pro-wolf lover.
Politics baby.
My guess is if the individuals are caught and they're just a-holes we wont hear about it. If they're pro-wolf lovers you bet we'll hear about it. :twocents:
Post by: idaho guy on June 06, 2018, 10:08:51 AM
These are not animal rights or environmental activists...that's just a dumb idea being pushed for political purposes. If cattle operations were being interfered with that did not directly involve shooting or harming animals I would say for sure it's them...cutting fences, damaging equipment etc. are how enviro wackos act. This is plain ol criminal activity by dumb kids, annoyed neighbors, or some locals with a grudge.Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
again the quote by tim coleman executive director of the kettle range conservation group "its INHUMANE and UNJUSTIFIED to put livestock on top of important predators and expect the predators not to take a bite out of them." He and probably his followers believe its the CATTLES fault for being there. I know nothing about this specific group but No question these people would shoot cows with that mindset. It could be jerk kids too or anybody, but its a mistake to think even the suggestion of enviro wackos is just a political stunt. My guess is they should be on the short list of suspects. Just look at some of the different enviro groups track record, shooting a cow would be mild compared to what they have done. If the cow was eaten by a wolf its the cows fault for being there, but if the cow got shot its the guns fault :chuckle:
Post by: elkchaser54 on June 06, 2018, 12:23:20 PM
Oh wait it was an environmentalist making a statement. Talk about pushing your biases with no information leading to that. Was there a note saying Hi, I murdered your cow cause I love wolves and the environment............
Jumping to conclusions eh? Both my story and their story are feasible, no one knows who did it so why make an assumption like that. I am not some pro wolf dude but there is more then one way for a cow to die.
Post by: Ridgeratt on June 06, 2018, 01:17:36 PM
Some drunk dude and his buddies are out cruising a dirt road late at night booze cruising, with a rifle sitting shotgun and he bets his buddy that he can hit that Wolf at 500 yards....
Oh wait it was an environmentalist making a statement. Talk about pushing your biases with no information leading to that. Was there a note saying Hi, I murdered your wolf cause I love cows and the environment............
Jumping to conclusions eh? Both my story and their story are feasible, no one knows who did it so why make an assumption like that. I am not some pro cow dude but there is more then one way for a wolf to die.
Changed the narrative a shade. :dunno:
Post by: elkchaser54 on June 06, 2018, 03:08:01 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 07, 2018, 06:37:52 AM
When these people have their livelihood under indirect attack from one group and simultaneously under direct attack from another(or the same), I wont pass judgment on their thoughts about it.
I understand about jumping to conclusions generally but for this case it really doesn't matter. There is never going to be a civil agreement reached between the two sides of the issue.
Post by: nwwanderer on June 07, 2018, 07:44:44 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 07, 2018, 08:22:18 AM
Are you guys really arguing about this? None of you know who shot the cows.
Imma go read the bigfoot thread.
I worked on a job site hauling dirt near the Echo Lake turnoff a few years ago. All the houses were GREEN FRIENDLY. Very expensive homes. Some ECO TERRORIST group came in and burned them. I think it was 4, because they weren't green enough if I remember right.
What I'm getting at is, the eco terrorist do, do these things.
Post by: MR5x5 on June 07, 2018, 09:23:01 AM
Post by: bearpaw on June 07, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
I agree.These are not animal rights or environmental activists...that's just a dumb idea being pushed for political purposes. If cattle operations were being interfered with that did not directly involve shooting or harming animals I would say for sure it's them...cutting fences, damaging equipment etc. are how enviro wackos act. This is plain ol criminal activity by dumb kids, annoyed neighbors, or some locals with a grudge.Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.I'm sorry but people have been shooting cows long before wolves were in this state. So if someone shoots a couple cows in Stevens County they're some environmentalist wolf lover but if they shoot them in Grant County they're just a ahole?
This is nothing more than the SCCA trying to tie something with wolves that has a 99% chance of it not being related. People have shot at cows as long as we've been on this planet, doesn't matter if wolves are there or not.
Someone shoots a cow in King County its a dumb kid, poacher, etc.
Someone shoots a cow in Stevens County its a pro-wolf lover.
Politics baby.
My guess is if the individuals are caught and they're just a-holes we wont hear about it. If they're pro-wolf lovers you bet we'll hear about it. :twocents:
The story said that problems have increased and who they suspect, it wasn't a definitive comment. On the other hand, you guys are making a definitive statement that it wasn't pro-wolfers. :rolleyes:
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Since cattlemen in Stevens County began to experience consistent wolf attacks in 2012, cattle have been the target for malicious opportunists who are shooting cattle while they are grazing near a public roadway. The animals are often shot at random and left to die. SCCA suspects the attacks are being carried out by those who may be upset about environmental issues, including the current conflict with wolves.
Post by: castie2504 on July 22, 2018, 08:26:23 PM
Post by: Remnar on July 22, 2018, 09:01:09 PM
Regardless of whether it is pro-wolfer or otherwise, it is a cowardly crime and I hope those responsible get what’s coming to them. Ranchers already face enough trouble without these senseless killings.:yeah: