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Title: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: TriggerMike on June 05, 2018, 09:41:00 AM
Do Idahos controlled hunt choices work the same as Washington where your name goes in the hat and you get assigned a number and when your number is pulled they look at if your first choice is available and if it isn't then they look at your second choice? I know everyone has 1 point every year but I'm just wondering how the hunt choice selection works.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Cleetiswillfeedus on June 05, 2018, 10:07:10 AM
Great question. The answer is no. It’s first choice only. The only time a second choice will matter, is if it’s an area with leftover tags, meaning they were not all taken as everyone else first choice.

For example. Say there is 50 tags for a hunt. If 51 people select if first choice, and 200 people select it as a 2nd choice, only the first choice guys will get it.

If there was 50 tags in an area, and 25 select it as first choice, the remaining 25 tags will be issued to the 2nd choice people who are still in the pool.

Also remember Idaho only gives 10% of tags to non residents, and it’s my understanding that they are divided into 2 separate pools for the main drawing.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 10:36:29 AM
I don’t think that there are 2 separate pools for resident and nonresident. Just that no more than 10% can go to no resident. They draw all together but once the 10% is met then no other nonresidents can draw that tag.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 05, 2018, 10:42:15 AM
I believe @BULLBLASTER is correct.  Wouldn't really make sense to have two separate pools when they share the same tag pool with a cap on NR.

Very fair system...unless I don't draw again, then it is rigged  :twocents:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 05, 2018, 11:08:02 AM
Is this the start of the 'Idaho Results' thread???
 :peep:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 05, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
Is this the start of the 'Idaho Results' thread???
 :peep:
not looking good on having results by September if the Idaho draw trends continue the way they are going this year :bash:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 11:26:51 AM
Is this the start of the 'Idaho Results' thread???
 :peep:
not looking good on having results by September if the Idaho draw trends continue the way they are going this year :bash:
Maybe they won’t have results by the time the tag purchase deadline hits. Then we are all disqualified for it and we need to re apply and pay again for the second draw. Then after those draws aren’t done either all the tags will go otc first come first serve.  :twocents:

Also btw they completely canceled the oil draws.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: TriggerMike on June 05, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
Great question. The answer is no. It’s first choice only. The only time a second choice will matter, is if it’s an area with leftover tags, meaning they were not all taken as everyone else first choice.

For example. Say there is 50 tags for a hunt. If 51 people select if first choice, and 200 people select it as a 2nd choice, only the first choice guys will get it.

If there was 50 tags in an area, and 25 select it as first choice, the remaining 25 tags will be issued to the 2nd choice people who are still in the pool.

Also remember Idaho only gives 10% of tags to non residents, and it’s my understanding that they are divided into 2 separate pools for the main drawing.

Makes perfect sense. That changes my strategy entirely. Thanks!
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 05, 2018, 11:56:05 AM
They just extended the deadline to June 7th for applications. IDFG is such a joke


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Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
They just extended the deadline to June 7th for applications. IDFG is such a joke


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Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 05, 2018, 12:45:26 PM
At least we get our points back if they flub the draw  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
At least we get our points back if they flub the draw  :chuckle:
I’m sitting at max points in all species. Except Moose they ain’t let me have any Moose points anymore.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 05, 2018, 12:52:31 PM
 :chuckle: that's pretty good

Second draw will open October 15th
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: buglebrush on June 05, 2018, 01:34:27 PM
Folks this is no joking matter!   :yike:

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 05, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
Folks this is no joking matter!   :yike:

 :chuckle:

Tell that to Idaho F&G then  :chuckle:

Funny thing is I don't even care.  I've already got some cool hunts to go on this fall.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Bigshooter on June 05, 2018, 03:06:30 PM
They just extended the deadline to June 7th for applications. IDFG is such a joke


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I had decided today not to apply.  Now I get to think on it a little longer.  :bash:
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: jjhunter on June 05, 2018, 03:30:18 PM
I almost broke my application streak in Idaho this year.   Used to be some pretty dang good draw odds; now, it is getting pretty tough to justify the license cost.

Unless something new catches my eye in the next season setting, I'll just buy a few super tag tickets each year and go outfitter allocated when I want to hunt.

Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: 2MANY on June 05, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
Almost.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 05, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
Funny thing is I don't even care.  I've already got some cool hunts to go on this fall.
I hear you have two extra days to withdraw your application :)
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 05, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Funny thing is I don't even care.  I've already got some cool hunts to go on this fall.
I hear you have two extra days to withdraw your application :)
No way! The jon is up to win something!
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: idaho guy on June 05, 2018, 08:24:55 PM
They just extended the deadline to June 7th for applications. IDFG is such a joke


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Really man? Idaho fish and game is a joke because draws are a little late this year? I think maybe you are not looking at the big picture . How fast they conduct draws is the least of my worries. It’s a little irritating lbut I am more interested in game management and hunting opportunities
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 06, 2018, 05:44:15 AM
Yep. I think we, and by “we” I mean you guys should boycott da ho for at least the next 5 years... :)
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: idaho guy on June 06, 2018, 09:27:59 AM
Yep. I think we, and by “we” I mean you guys should boycott da ho for at least the next 5 years... :)

I think maybe I was looking at this wrong. that's an excellent idea we being everyone but me should boycott at least 5 years maybe 10! We need to make a stand they extended the deadline by at least 2 days that's just crap man! we need to be done with Idaho. Again we meaning all you guys I will suck it up and continue to hunt this crappy state and make sure I let you guys know how terrible it is  :chuckle: 
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 06, 2018, 12:22:04 PM
Well, I forgot to put in yesterday, then I read this thread and realized I had two more days so I jumped in, bought all my stuff and put in.  Thanks for being goofed up this year IDFG... ;)
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 07, 2018, 01:57:26 PM
Yep. I think we, and by “we” I mean you guys should boycott da ho for at least the next 5 years... :)

I think maybe I was looking at this wrong. that's an excellent idea we being everyone but me should boycott at least 5 years maybe 10! We need to make a stand they extended the deadline by at least 2 days that's just crap man! we need to be done with Idaho. Again we meaning all you guys I will suck it up and continue to hunt this crappy state and make sure I let you guys know how terrible it is  :chuckle:

Agreed.  Ya'll can start with the 2nd draw.  I'll start next year - maybe
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 09, 2018, 08:56:53 PM
I was at a IDFG regional office on Friday (the 8th) and had to watch a guy try and apply for controlled hunts (closed the 7th)...it was hard to watch :(
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: bearpaw on June 10, 2018, 03:26:50 AM
The new system was preventing applicants from applying for certain hunts for some reason? I was put on a list for call back and they never got back to me until the 6th, so they must have had quite a few calls to return.
Title: Re: Idaho Controlled Hunt 1st and 2nd Choice
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 10, 2018, 06:53:55 AM
It must be (speculation) that there’s far more people that apply during the last 3 days than the first few weeks. I dunno :dunno: I get all excited for states to open the application period...almost like Christmas!!
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