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Big Game Hunting => Out Of State Hunting => Topic started by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 06:17:15 AM

Title: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 06:17:15 AM: Due to,fire danger.... :yike:
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 06:19:47 AM: Fire risks are at "historic levels," San Juan National Forest Fire Staff Officer Richard Bustamante said, adding, "Under current conditions, one abandoned campfire or spark could cause a catastrophic wildfire, and we are not willing to take that chance with the natural and cultural resources under our protection and care, or with human life and property."

The San Juan National Forest makes up some 1.8 million acres across nine counties. The full closure, which the Associated Press reports last took place in 2002, does not affect roads that cross through the forest.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: timberfaller on June 13, 2018, 06:36:56 AM: No surprise, the Feds and BLM haven't managed the forest for decades now thank to environmentalist and the USFS employee's Union! This next generation will not have a clue how to properly take care of nature no matter how educated they believe themselves to be.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 07:53:05 AM: Quote from: timberfaller on June 13, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
No surprise, the Feds and BLM haven't managed the forest for decades now thank to environmentalist and the USFS employee's Union! This next generation will not have a clue how to properly take care of nature no matter how educated they believe themselves to be.
I get that the environmentalist getting in the way for government agencies to manage land but how does the USFS have anything to do with it? Just wondering :dunno:
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: cougforester on June 13, 2018, 08:00:10 AM: Quote from: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: timberfaller on June 13, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
No surprise, the Feds and BLM haven't managed the forest for decades now thank to environmentalist and the USFS employee's Union! This next generation will not have a clue how to properly take care of nature no matter how educated they believe themselves to be.
I get that the environmentalist getting in the way for government agencies to manage land but how does the USFS have anything to do with it? Just wondering :dunno:

USFS gets hamstrung quite often when they try to put through timber harvests due to public input/ outcry. A lot of time they get sued, which ties up a bunch of budget/time in legal fees and court costs. USFS is a much easier target to go after for those folks than private timber or even state agencies.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 08:41:54 AM: Quote from: cougforester on June 13, 2018, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: timberfaller on June 13, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
No surprise, the Feds and BLM haven't managed the forest for decades now thank to environmentalist and the USFS employee's Union! This next generation will not have a clue how to properly take care of nature no matter how educated they believe themselves to be.
I get that the environmentalist getting in the way for government agencies to manage land but how does the USFS have anything to do with it? Just wondering :dunno:

USFS gets hamstrung quite often when they try to put through timber harvests due to public input/ outcry. A lot of time they get sued, which ties up a bunch of budget/time in legal fees and court costs. USFS is a much easier target to go after for those folks than private timber or even state agencies.
Sorry must not have had enough caffeine yet. The USFS union I meant.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: cougforester on June 13, 2018, 08:44:53 AM: Quote from: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 08:41:54 AM
Quote from: cougforester on June 13, 2018, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: Russ McDonald on June 13, 2018, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: timberfaller on June 13, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
No surprise, the Feds and BLM haven't managed the forest for decades now thank to environmentalist and the USFS employee's Union! This next generation will not have a clue how to properly take care of nature no matter how educated they believe themselves to be.
I get that the environmentalist getting in the way for government agencies to manage land but how does the USFS have anything to do with it? Just wondering :dunno:

USFS gets hamstrung quite often when they try to put through timber harvests due to public input/ outcry. A lot of time they get sued, which ties up a bunch of budget/time in legal fees and court costs. USFS is a much easier target to go after for those folks than private timber or even state agencies.
Sorry must not have had enough caffeine yet. The USFS union I meant.

:tup: Can't help you there!
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 08:58:01 AM: Not sure how the environmentalist mind works.....same minds as most liberals I guess, so no logic. I can see Washington following suit. Sorry National Forest closed this year.....
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: bigtex on June 13, 2018, 09:07:45 AM: The San Juan NF is an amazing forest. Literally every time I've driven through I've seen deer, elk, and bear. But, when it burns, it burns. The four-corners region has had several really bad drought years the past decade or so and that doesn't help the fire activity.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 02:14:24 PM: Indeed, amazing country.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: Humptulips on June 13, 2018, 02:20:32 PM: On another forum I frequent guys from the SW have been talking about how dry it is. Sounds like another dust bowl in the making.
Talk of dead deer and elk from lack of water.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on June 13, 2018, 06:18:34 PM: I see white river national forest already put some extreme restrictions in effect. Nuts to see some of those areas burning but a few of us put our money this past winter on CO and NM the place to go this summer.

Just wait until next month when the west dries out. Hopefully I won't be seeing 14+ columns everyday.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 13, 2018, 06:26:46 PM: Maybe they'll get a tropical storm and then an early monsoon season.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: Miles on June 13, 2018, 06:30:25 PM: It’s dry out here, and there’s some pretty big fires already.
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: boneaddict on June 13, 2018, 07:07:15 PM: I just saw footage of one and it was insane. Dang!
Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: deerslyr on June 13, 2018, 07:27:19 PM: Just got back from the 416 fire. You guys wouldn't believe how dry it is. Hardly any snow on the tallest peaks and dry as can be down low. Havent seen fire behavior like that this early in a long time.

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Title: Re: Closing national forests in CO and NM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on June 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM: I grew up in that area and my mom n sister still live near there. One of the driest years at this point my mom remembers in over 30 years. I used to camp with my brother in the area of the burn when I was 6-8 years old and had a great time, very sad to see it burn.