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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: asmith on July 03, 2018, 05:09:43 PM
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Is this a new thing? I don't remember seeing it last year. Then again, I only get a bear tag just incase I see one while out hunting other things. This year I plan on trying to actually go after a bear.
Black bear identification test required in GMUs 101, 105, 108, 111, 113, 117, 203, 204, 209, 215, 418, 426. Pg. 70 of regs
You have to pass with an 80% or higher. I'm not a bear hunter, but I just took mine and passed it with no issues. You can find it when you sign into the WDFW wild system under Mandatory Species Identification Tests. Its just 10 questions and only takes a couple minutes.
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Yep, thier gonna make lots of money off this one.😉
Thanks for posting.👍
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Yep, thier gonna make lots of money off this one.😉
Thanks for posting.👍
Who's making what money? It's a free test to take.
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Yep, thier gonna make lots of money off this one.😉
Thanks for posting.👍
Who's making what money? It's a free test to take.
I think he is referring to tickets to those who didn't realize they had to take the test and retain the passing grade slip with them in field.
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Yep, thier gonna make lots of money off this one.😉
Thanks for posting.👍
Who's making what money? It's a free test to take.
I think he is referring to tickets to those who didn't realize they had to take the test and retain the passing grade slip with them in field.
Yep, GMU 418, wet siders going to the dry side.
Easy test 100% here.
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Easy test , but the mandated retaining of another damn piece of paper in the field is a PITA ! Come on WDFW , make it a mandatory part of a bear tag... I'm having a terrible time finding a camo , scent free , Briefcase :bash:
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
I don't disagree with the proof on the license part.
But as far as checking it on the computer, the computers in their trucks are based off cell service. No cell service = a brick in the truck.
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I agree that the certification should show as a line item on the license.
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
I completely agree. There are times where my licenses are not where they are supposed to be or I forget them in the other jacket, and either have to just go with it or not hunt or Fish. I have a screen shot of my licenses or can easily pull them up online, but I would still get a ticket.
How would we go about pushing for a policy change to allow digital proof of licensure?
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
I completely agree. There are times where my licenses are not where they are supposed to be or I forget them in the other jacket, and either have to just go with it or not hunt or Fish. I have a screen shot of my licenses or can easily pull them up online, but I would still get a ticket.
How would we go about pushing for a policy change to allow digital proof of licensure?
It wouldn't be a policy change. You'd have to get WDFWs support and then have the WA legislature to enact it into law. Good luck.
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The Bear ID cert is a half of a page. I will shrink it down to make it easier to carry with all my other tags.
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
Yes it would, but again; things can’t be that easy in this state. Also how else could they make money off enforcement fines with it being so obviously listed on our license?
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
Yes it would, but again; things can’t be that easy in this state. Also how else could they make money off enforcement fines with it being so obviously listed on our license?
The fines go to the county not WDFW.
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
I think you'd have to make it a required statewide test and not just for specific units then since bear tags are good statewide.
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
I don't disagree with the proof on the license part.
But as far as checking it on the computer, the computers in their trucks are based off cell service. No cell service = a brick in the truck.
Fair enough on checking from the truck. But there's no reason the training couldn't show on your license. I really don't ant to have to carry more junk around, just something else to forget and get in trouble.
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
I think you'd have to make it a required statewide test and not just for specific units then since bear tags are good statewide.
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So? They do it in Montana don’t they? Seems like the test is easy peasy.
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Wouldn’t it be easiest to make it so we had to take the test before we could buy a bear tag? That way, a guy can’t have a bear tag without having taken and passed the test.
I think you'd have to make it a required statewide test and not just for specific units then since bear tags are good statewide.
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So? They do it in Montana don’t they? Seems like the test is easy peasy.
In Montana I think it has to be on your record to buy a bear tag, but you don't have to carry the test results.
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That seems easy enough. Im not an it guy but how hard would it be to enter in your wild id#, take the test and have it show on your license when you buy it ? If your not going to hunt those units don't bother with the test If you do take the test the proof is on a document you have with you any way.
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when did the training become mandatory? I may have bought my licenses before the bear test was mandatory, I seen it on there but I think it was voluntary still. I'm hoping next year it'll be printed on hunting license as an endorsement. Actually, I think they should do that now and give us all a free license reprint showing the bear ID endorsement. Might be asking too much though, I can't even get a license where the ink shows up for more than a month or two they're so faded already, and they ain't even being getting used yet!
Gonna have to start packing a brief case with me in the woods when I'm huntin
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Anyone else having issues finding the test itself? I can find the bear identification program page but can’t seem to find the link to the test. On the right hand side I see the info about the test being available after July 1st but no visible link. Am I missing something?
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Anyone else having issues finding the test itself? I can find the bear identification program page but can’t seem to find the link to the test. On the right hand side I see the info about the test being available after July 1st but no visible link. Am I missing something?
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Is this a new thing? I don't remember seeing it last year. Then again, I only get a bear tag just incase I see one while out hunting other things. This year I plan on trying to actually go after a bear.
Black bear identification test required in GMUs 101, 105, 108, 111, 113, 117, 203, 204, 209, 215, 418, 426. Pg. 70 of regs
You have to pass with an 80% or higher. I'm not a bear hunter, but I just took mine and passed it with no issues. You can find it when you sign into the WDFW wild system under Mandatory Species Identification Tests. Its just 10 questions and only takes a couple minutes.
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I’m surprised we don’t have a coyote wolf one yet.
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I’m surprised we don’t have a coyote wolf one yet.
That will be next.
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Last I checked they were requiring the test but took it offline, they must be updating the test?
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Last I checked they were requiring the test but took it offline, they must be updating the test?
Not to worry. They'll email when it's back online. :chuckle:
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
No money to be gained in that, make the requirement hard, easy to forget, bam tickets and money in the coffers. :twocents:
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Im surprised we dont have a coyote wolf one yet.
That will be next.
Nah, they'll just close coyote hunting so a wolf won't be accidentally shot.
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Is this a new thing? I don't remember seeing it last year. Then again, I only get a bear tag just incase I see one while out hunting other things. This year I plan on trying to actually go after a bear.
Black bear identification test required in GMUs 101, 105, 108, 111, 113, 117, 203, 204, 209, 215, 418, 426. Pg. 70 of regs
You have to pass with an 80% or higher. I'm not a bear hunter, but I just took mine and passed it with no issues. You can find it when you sign into the WDFW wild system under Mandatory Species Identification Tests. Its just 10 questions and only takes a couple minutes.
Kind of odd they didn't add more GMUs. There was a verified grizzly sighting in 224 last year. And there have been verified sightings in 437, 450 and 448.
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It took a few minutes to find the information on WDFW website but it says the test will be available July 1st. I can't find it. Is there a link somewhere I'm not finding. Thanks
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when did the training become mandatory? I may have bought my licenses before the bear test was mandatory, I seen it on there but I think it was voluntary still. I'm hoping next year it'll be printed on hunting license as an endorsement. Actually, I think they should do that now and give us all a free license reprint showing the bear ID endorsement. Might be asking too much though, I can't even get a license where the ink shows up for more than a month or two they're so faded already, and they ain't even being getting used yet!
Gonna have to start packing a brief case with me in the woods when I'm huntin
@KFhunter It's not mandatory to get your license. It's mandatory to have the paper saying you took the class/test with you if you're bear hunting in those listed GMU's.
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Glad I saw this thread. Didn’t catch this in the regs. Just took the test, very basic. 5 minutes
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It took a few minutes to find the information on WDFW website but it says the test will be available July 1st. I can't find it. Is there a link somewhere I'm not finding. Thanks
Log in to your wdfw page where you check your permits or buy liscenses. It will be on the left, mandatory species identification tests.
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when did the training become mandatory? I may have bought my licenses before the bear test was mandatory, I seen it on there but I think it was voluntary still. I'm hoping next year it'll be printed on hunting license as an endorsement. Actually, I think they should do that now and give us all a free license reprint showing the bear ID endorsement. Might be asking too much though, I can't even get a license where the ink shows up for more than a month or two they're so faded already, and they ain't even being getting used yet!
Gonna have to start packing a brief case with me in the woods when I'm huntin
@KFhunter It's not mandatory to get your license. It's mandatory to have the paper saying you took the class/test with you if you're bear hunting in those listed GMU's.
Thanks, I took the test and got the cert. Going to put it on the copier and reduce it down to a manageable size and tuck it in my tag holder.
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It took a few minutes to find the information on WDFW website but it says the test will be available July 1st. I can't find it. Is there a link somewhere I'm not finding. Thanks
Log in to your wdfw page where you check your permits or buy liscenses. It will be on the left, mandatory species identification tests.
Thank you.
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How about no more new laws, if someone makes a mistake, they pay the price. So tired of all the new ways we can get nailed... When I see others pushing for this, well... I'll just say to each his own(guess that's the politically correct way to put it!). I am not an advocate of more rules and more laws, can't enforce the ones they have now. How about we each be responsible, if not pay the price.....
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Thanks for the help finding it. Got my cert, noticed annual renewal as well.
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I completely agree with requiring the training to keep hunters from accidentally shooting a grizzly, I've advocated years for this. But, I had missed the part that you must carry proof of passing. How stupid is that, this is the digital age, the endorsement should show on your license. Any warden can easily look at your online profile and check too, or hasn't WDFW figured out how to do that?
One more reason to be disgusted with WDFW, they can't do anything the smart and easy way! :bash:
No money to be gained in that, make the requirement hard, easy to forget, bam tickets and money in the coffers. :twocents:
Coffers of the county...
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Thanks for the help finding it. Got my cert, noticed annual renewal as well.
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Ya, noticed it was annual as well. Not pleased with that.
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Glad I saw this thread. Didn’t catch this in the regs. Just took the test, very basic. 5 minutes
:yeah: Easy peasy 100% here
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Just another case of wdfw suppressing predator hunters.
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It took a few minutes to find the information on WDFW website but it says the test will be available July 1st. I can't find it. Is there a link somewhere I'm not finding. Thanks
Log in to your wdfw page where you check your permits or buy liscenses. It will be on the left, mandatory species identification tests.
Thanks for the info! :tup:
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Just another case of wdfw suppressing predator hunters.
Yup just like how they suppress those damn geese hunters in the SW portion of the state by making them take a species test. :o
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Don't think it was available for my spring bear hunt. And I might have seen one across the line.
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Just another case of wdfw suppressing predator hunters.
Yup just like how they suppress those damn geese hunters in the SW portion of the state by making them take a species test. :o
The goose test is once. This test is annual. I don't know how much it will suppress bear hunting but it is a ridiculous hurdle to require it annually.
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I’m willing to bet that the wdfw instituted this new hurdle as a direct result of monitoring local hunting and hiking pages on Facebook. They see every time someone posts a photo of a cinnamon or blond phase black bear the people who argue that it’s a grizzly bear because it has a “hump.” Surely this is the reasoning for the test.
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I took the test and then I had both my sons take it. It changes up the questions each test. They definitely try to give you some weird angles. If they allowed baiting again, you would have lots of time to ID the bear at hand.
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I think testing is a good step. Shooting a grizzly by mistake is bad for the shooter, for WDFW, and or all hunters.
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I think testing is a good step. Shooting a grizzly by mistake is bad for the shooter, for WDFW, and or all hunters.
EXACTLY! :tup: :tup: :tup:
Several grizzlies have been accidentally shot by hunters in NE WA thinking they were black bear. We have quite a few of them around now and numbers seem to be increasing. I require all my guides to take the test in several states every year before guiding just to take every precaution to avoid accidentally shooting a grizzly. The more of these tests you take the more quickly you identify bear in the photos. When you are out hunting lots of times the bear you see will only offer a quick look, a person needs to know what type of bear at first glance to be safe.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
I got 100% also on the first try. Never needed a second look when in Alaska but some of those pictures were tricky.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
:yeah: I agree, I liked the fact that some photos were more distant and in tough to see situations.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
I took that one just now and got 87%, missed 2 questions. Again, im not a bear hunter either. I'll keep taking these different tests before I hit the field though as I dont want to be 'that' hunter who shot a grizzly.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
Yep, 100% here, kinda easy I thought Wa was harder.
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
I took that one just now and got 87%, missed 2 questions. Again, im not a bear hunter either. I'll keep taking these different tests before I hit the field though as I dont want to be 'that' hunter who shot a grizzly.
If you missed 2 your at 80%. Only 10 questions. 10 points a question. :dunno:
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I like the test, poorly implemented with having to carry the stupid computer printout and annual requirement, but I support the idea of the test.
This is a good test too, practice on this one. I got 100% first try :IBCOOL:
https://myfwp.mt.gov/fwpPub/testStart.action?testid=559639
WDFW used some good bear pictures too, so I applaud that! I especially like the low light bear pics. They also need some tree stand pics where you're looking down on the bear.
I took that one just now and got 87%, missed 2 questions. Again, im not a bear hunter either. I'll keep taking these different tests before I hit the field though as I dont want to be 'that' hunter who shot a grizzly.
If you missed 2 your at 80%. Only 10 questions. 10 points a question. :dunno:
Montana's test is 15 questions.
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Taking the test is one thing, having to take it every year, and especially carry a stupid paper proving you did it is what is crazy.
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I’m surprised we don’t have a coyote wolf one yet.
:chuckle: That would be a good one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,If the Fish and Game officers had to pass it also,As often as the hunters also.Seems wolves get reported often by farmers and the dept just claims nope not wolf unless one is shot.
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Good point, Oh. If they gave a test and people passed it and reported a wolf; then they would have to acknowledge there was a wolf. (or their test was pointless) Then they would have to follow up on all the sightings and pay up for kills.
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Where's the test on WDFW website? I can't find it.
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Where's the test on WDFW website? I can't find it.
fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov under Mandatory Species Identification Tests
It took me days to figure this out. 🤪
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I just took the test and passed, but some of the test pictures were difficult to identify 100%.
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Did you get 100%
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Where's the test on WDFW website? I can't find it.
fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov under Mandatory Species Identification Tests
It took me days to figure this out. 🤪
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Thanks, I found it last evening and passed. :)
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step 1 go to ---> https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov)
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No, I missed some because the picture was to vague. I would rather miss some, than misidentify what kind of bear it was.
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It didn't give me a percentage, however it said I passed. I'm quite sure I got all ten questions correct. Also took Montana's test and it did tell me I got a perfect score. I printed both certifications just to be safe.
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go back to it this time select view and see score.then print
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Thread jack..... I like having bigtex on the forum, alot. A great addition to many topics :tup:
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go back to it this time select view and see score.then print
Thank you, it says I got 90%. It also says on my certification that it expires Nov. 30th of this year. Is that the same for everyone?
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Yes after this season for bear is over.Must be done every year at this time.
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Some of those pictures were poor choices. I got one that seemed to be a bear facing directly away all I could see was it's rear pointing at me and the grizzly cub pic was dumb too. I passed but I would like to see some better pictures or maybe short video clips on next year's.
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Could they not ask for testing before issueing tags in those GMU's? Easy cheezy done at time of purchase right? No brainer to me? Tag would show Grizz approved!! :chuckle:
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I thought the bear test photos I got were great. If you want to see some crappy photos, click on the mountain goat gender quiz. Everything is about a mile away and horrible resolution.
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Sure glad I saw this thread! Just took the WA test. Super easy!
Then I took the Montana test that was linked. I missed one, but I disagree!!!
The photo shows a black bear, black in color, with possibly a small brown patch on it's shoulder. To me, that small brown patch looked like sunlight hitting it from a low angle, (Think sunset.) The question was, "Is this a brown phase Black Bear?" I answered NO, because I don't see it as a brown phase...lol. It was completely black, with sunlight creating what looked like a small brown patch...haha.
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100% on both for me
I don’t like that I have to print it off. I don’t have a printer. It should just be linked to my wild id so when I get checked they know.
Now that we have proof we can tell black bear apart from grizz we should be able to open spring bear in 113.