Post by: wolfbait on July 04, 2018, 07:16:27 AM
MCMORRIS RODGERS SENDS LETTER TO SECRETARY ZINKE URGING DELISTING OF GRAY WOLF AND AGAINST GRIZZLY REINTRODUCTION
https://mcmorris.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/CMRltrtoSecZinke.Wolves.Grizzilies.pdf
Post by: PA BEN on July 04, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
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Post by: bigtex on July 04, 2018, 10:27:36 AM
It's not out of his hands if he decides to do something. He can certainly back off his previous endorsement of the Grizzly plan.He won't. It's his baby. And remember grizzly's are jut a part of life in his native Montana :rolleyes:
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 04, 2018, 10:31:20 AM
It's not out of his hands if he decides to do something. He can certainly back off his previous endorsement of the Grizzly plan.He won't. It's his baby. And remember grizzly's are jut a part of life in his native Montana :rolleyes:
Well, the program's been defunded. That's my understanding.
Post by: Special T on July 04, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
That may be the political maneuvering required to appease most of the folks on this issue. Politics is deception, and compromise... so its rarely straight forward.It's not out of his hands if he decides to do something. He can certainly back off his previous endorsement of the Grizzly plan.He won't. It's his baby. And remember grizzly's are jut a part of life in his native Montana :rolleyes:
Well, the program's been defunded. That's my understanding.
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Post by: wolfbait on July 04, 2018, 01:04:08 PM
That may be the political maneuvering required to appease most of the folks on this issue. Politics is deception, and compromise... so its rarely straight forward.It's not out of his hands if he decides to do something. He can certainly back off his previous endorsement of the Grizzly plan.He won't. It's his baby. And remember grizzly's are jut a part of life in his native Montana :rolleyes:
Well, the program's been defunded. That's my understanding.
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:yeah:
"I'm all for planting grizzly bears in Washington and then defund it"... :chuckle:
That's pretty much what happened in the 1980's early 90's when the corrupt WDFW along with their fake environmental groups were doing their grizzly bear-wolf push, defunded.
The USFWS decided it would be better to introduce wolves into the three states that would be hardest to dump wolves in once the truth showed through their lying propaganda stench about the wolves.
Remember the BS they spewed about the alpha male and female being the only wolves that breed in a pack?
And then there's the wolf migrations, which never happened before the introduction. Now we have wolves "traveling" long distance to some state, and in a short time, bingo first wolf pack in 70 years. And all the fake environmentalist lope off to exclaim in wonderment, amazing what wolves have accomplished since they were dumped on the lower 48.
Wolf impacts underestimated
According to the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service grossly underestimated the impact of a reintroduced population of wolves.
• The wolf population in the Greater Yellowstone area in 2005 was at least 3.3 times the original environmental impact statement prediction for a recovered population.
• The number of breeding pairs of wolves in the GYA in 2005 was at least twice as high as the original EIS prediction and the number of breeding pairs in 2004 was at least 3.1 times the original EIS prediction.
• In 2005, the wolf population in Wyoming outside Yellowstone National Park exceeded the recovery criteria for the entire region and continues to increase rapidly.
• The estimated annual predation rate (22 ungulates per wolf) is 1.8 times the annual predation rate (12 ungulates per wolf) predicted in the EIS.
• The estimated number of ungulates taken by 325 wolves in a year (7,150) is six times higher than the original EIS prediction.
• The percent of the northern Yellowstone elk harvest during the 1980s currently taken by wolves (50 percent) is 6.3 times the original estimate of eight percent projected in the EIS.
• The actual decline in the northern Yellowstone elk herd (more than 50 percent) is 1.7 times the maximum decline originally forecast in the EIS.
• The actual decline in cow harvest in the northern Yellowstone elk herd (89 percent) is 3.3 times the decline originally forecast in the EIS.
• The actual decline in bull harvest in the northern Yellowstone elk herd is 75 percent, whereas the 1994 EIS predicted bull harvests would be “unaffected.”
• Since wolf introduction, average ratios of calf elk to cow elk have been greatly \depressed in the northern Yellowstone elk herd and in the Wyoming elk herds impacted by wolves. In the northern Yellowstone elk herd and in the Sunlight unit of the Clarks Fork herd, calf:cow rations have been suppressed to unprecedented levels below 15 calves per 100. The impact of wolves on calf recruitment was not addressed by the 1994 EIS.
WG&F stated: “Despite research findings in Idaho and the Greater Yellowstone Area, and monitoring evidence in Wyoming that indicate wolf predation is having an impact on ungulate populations that will reduce hunter opportunity if the current impact levels persist, the Service continues to rigidly deny wolf predation is a problem.”
The 1994 EIS predicted that presence of wolves would result in a 5-10 percent increase in annual visitation to Yellowstone National Park. On this basis, the EIS forecast wolves in the region would generate $20 million in revenue to the states of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. WG&F reports that annual park visitation remained essentially unchanged after wolf introduction, and has decreased 2.6 percent since the wolf population reached recovery goals in 2000.
“ Since park visitation did not increase as originally forecast, the Service cannot legitimately conclude presence of wolves has had any appreciable effect on net tourism revenues,” WG&F stated.
WG&F stated: “Wolf presence can be ecologically compatible in the GYA only to the extent that the distribution and numbers of wolves are controlled and maintained at approximately the levels originally predicted by the 1994 EIS –100 wolves and 10 breeding pairs.” WG&F maintained that FWS “has a permanent, legal obligation to manage wolves at the levels on which the wolf recovery program was originally predicated, the levels described by the impact analysis in the 1994 EIS.”
http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/wolfimpacts.htm
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 13, 2018, 11:07:53 AM
He's a manager of a big ranch in New Mexico near Raton too....
Post by: Henrydog on July 13, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
This is just a very cheap way she is trying to drum up support from her district. She can point to it and say "look I tried" My question is why did she not do this 2 or 5 years ago?.....
Post by: PA BEN on July 13, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Don't get me wrong I would not vote for Lisa Brown if there was a gun put to my head, but I think Cathy is feeling a little heat for spending too much time in the swamp.Why don't you ask her?
This is just a very cheap way she is trying to drum up support from her district. She can point to it and say "look I tried" My question is why did she not do this 2 or 5 years ago?.....