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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: jimbow on July 13, 2018, 12:21:25 PM
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Anyone know when the leftover multi-season deer tags will be available??
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:yeah:
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Beginning of August. Multi season people that drew have until July 31st to purchase them
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Thanks. I know in the past I've gotten an email when they become available, just hadn't heard anything yet.
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Following
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Aug 11th last year, but you must have applied and not been drawn to be able to purchase onu
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You can have mine! I drew Wyoming so I wont be purchasing mine. Wyoming hunt right during the WA muzzle-loader hunt.
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Aug 11th last year, but you must have applied and not been drawn to be able to purchase onu
I believe it was the 15th. That's the day I purchased one of the 149 leftover MS elk tag.
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So if I didn’t apply for a multi season deer tag I won’t be able to purchase one of the leftover ones?
Thanks
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That is correct.
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Aug 11th last year, but you must have applied and not been drawn to be able to purchase onu
This i need confirmed if anyone can."if you applied and was drawn but did not purchase before deadline you can't buy a leftover"
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That is incorrect. Whether you were drawn or not, you are free to purchase after that point. Last year I didnt buy my multi deer until november and I was selected.
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That is incorrect. Whether you were drawn or not, you are free to purchase after that point. Last year I didnt buy my multi deer until november and I was selected.
ya that !
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if selected,multi season tags will be available to purchase any time prior to Aug. 1st.
permits not purchased buy SUCCESSFUL applicants by Aug. 1st. may be sold to non selected APPLICANTS on a first come first serve basis.the dept. will announce when any remaining tags are available for sale to THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
I'm not sure.if you were selected you are no longer in the not selected category.
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That is incorrect. Whether you were drawn or not, you are free to purchase after that point. Last year I didnt buy my multi deer until november and I was selected.
To be fair,This was last year not this year.The post in this years reg. book was not in last years was it?
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Been the same wording for at least the last three years, with the exception of the department annoucing when they will be available. I would imagine that is to decrease the amount of inquiries they receive about it though. I guess that could be the difference but imo that wasnt the point of the addition verbiage.
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Yes it was worded exactly the same last year.
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Bought mine this morning. I don’t know why I procrastinated until the last day though.
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You can want it to say whatever you want it to say. But if you did not put in the first time you can NOT buy a leftover. Sorry, Charlie.
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Can have mine tommorow since I drew the Bison tag for Alaska, won't have anytime to use it. Side note I have drawn deer every year since they started it.
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So is there a chance for a MS elk tag yet?
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Oh man! I forgot to buy my MS deer tag today. I should probably get down there in the next few weeks and pay for that thing!
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You couldn't buy one last year if u were selected after the deadline. I tried you could not purchase multi season if u were drawn after the deadline!
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You couldn't buy one last year if u were selected after the deadline. I tried you could not purchase multi season if u were drawn after the deadline!
You most certainly could. There are places that sell licenses with staff that are not trained well. Just hit up another location that knows what they are doing. Been there and done that.
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Bought my multi deer and elk I'm good to go! Computer doesn't allow them to sell u multi if u drew after the deadline.
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Last year if you were selected and did not purchase or not selected, you could buy anytime after they went on sale. They never sold out of left over tags, as has been the case for deer last couple years
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have they announced yet when the leftovers will be available?
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have they announced yet when the leftovers will be available?
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
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The guy at clarks told me today, sometime the week of the 13th. So i just bought an archery deer tag. Would have bought a leftover multi deer, but once again, wdfw cant get their act together.
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You still can buy a left over multi season tag when they go on sale. Its not any different from any other year. Last year was around the 15th. Can't really see bad mouthing the dept. on that one
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You still can buy a left over multi season tag when they go on sale. Its not any different from any other year. Last year was around the 15th. Can't really see bad mouthing the dept. on that one
They should have been available by now. Wdfw has been grossly inefficient and late on everything in recent history. Theyre doing a crappy job.
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Aug 15th at 10am (elk) and 10:10 (deer) they will be up for sale. There is 131 elk and 2800 deer permits left over.
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Deer normally don’t sell out right away
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Can the multi season tag be bought online like all the other tags? What are the chances of people getting left over tags specially only x amount ? -Jesse
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Aug 15th at 10am (elk) and 10:10 (deer) they will be up for sale. There is 131 elk and 2800 deer permits left over.
Where did you see/hear this info? I haven't seen anything on their website yet.
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I can't comment who can buy what but I can say I received the email below today. I did apply for and was drawn, but DID NOT purchase my Multi Season deer tag.
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Great news! You are eligible to participate in a second chance purchase of a multi-season permit on
August 15 at 10:00AM!
Keep in mind purchases are first come first served!
Rules for purchasing the multi-season permit:
1. Hunters wanting to purchase a deer or elk multi-season permit
must have purchased a 2018 deer or elk multi-season special
hunt application.
2. You must have a general elk or deer license before purchasing
a multi-season permit.
3. If you have a general season elk or deer tag, you must
surrender it to the authorized WDFW license dealer at the
time of your multi-season permit purchase. There are
no exceptions. You may not mail in your general season tag at
a later date.
Multi-season permits are not available online. They can only
be purchased at an authorized WDFW license dealer, a
WDFW regional office, or WDFW headquarters in Olympia, WA.
Additional information
Multi-season elk permits will go on sale at 10:00AM on August 15.
1. There are approximately 131 multi-season elk permits available.
2. Multi-season elk permits are expected to sell out in 30 seconds
or less. It is likely that only one in every 20 license vendors will
be able to complete a transaction for elk.
Multi-season deer permits will go on sale 10 minutes later at 10:10AM.
If you plan to purchase both permits, you must do so in two
separate transactions.
1. Multi-season deer permits normally don’t sell out on the first-
come, first-served date. This means sales will continue until the
tag limit is reached. If you purchase after August 15, you will
be required to contact WDFW headquarters between 8:30 a.m.
and 4:30 p.m. Monday through Friday to complete the
cancellation process for your general season deer tag.
2. There are approximately 2,800 multi-season deer permits available.
Hunters who purchase a multi-season permit through this process will not lose points in their multi-season deer or elk special hunt application categories.
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-Fireball
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its crazy that some have gotten the email and others havent. I applied for both deer and elk and have yet to see an email. kinda like getting the emails for the draws, you may or may not get them.
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It says if you bought an app you can buy a leftover. Wether drawn or not drawn or points only.
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I also got the same email.
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...and I didn't. I normally do receive these types of email from WDFW. No big surprise they've got it messed up.
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Yup got the email!!
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I heard their mail server is run out of a New York house. Not sure how true that is.
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I got my email, maybe they only send it to those not drawn. Even though anyone that applied can purchase one.
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Not selected and no email.
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Not selected and no email.... I'm almost thinking this is a hoax and they haven't announced yet.
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Mine was in my junk mail. You might look there.
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Mine was in junk box also
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I was an unsuccessful applicant for deer and have been waiting for the email for left overs. As of this evening, still no email for me.
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So for those who got emails, dis it say when the tags will be available for purchase?
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So for those who got emails, dis it say when the tags will be available for purchase?
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,229131.msg3064714.html#msg3064714
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Thanks Bob.
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I still have not received an email about the leftovers. I was drawn for deer but not elk. But of course, today is the day I drop my daughter off at college so I won't be able to attempt to buy one of the elk leftovers. Oh well I guess
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I tried to fight my way to the front of the line once a few years ago. Spent a week checking out every WDFW retailer in the county trying to find one that I thought would give me the best chance. Stood in line for two hours before the race to the counter. Make it to the front of the line...all set...waiting, waiting, waiting...45 seconds to go - "Bob you have a phone call"
Last time I try that ridiculous marathon of futility.
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Last time I got my left over multi elk tag I stood in line for 4 hours, and just 2 minutes after I got in line a guy got in line behind me. Haven't tried for those left over tags for the last two years, good luck guys. You have about 20 seconds to get a tag.
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I called WDFW and asked the guy about why some get emails and why some dont. All he said is " we understand that happens."
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Getting close....I'm at the front of no line an hour early
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Getting close....I'm at the front of no line an hour early
good luck man, let us know!
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Well it is past the witching hour so there should be a few happy hunters out there by now. First year in four I didn't go after this tag, have had the multi-season elk tag for four years in a row. I was pretty lucky at getting it each of the last three years, I was so lucky last year it actually printed me two tags, WDFW called the next day with both of my tag numbers and had me destroy one and logged that number as an invalid tag. Going to miss hunting them while they are making noise and chasing the girls,... maybe get back on them next year.
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Getting close....I'm at the front of no line an hour early
How did you do?
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I'm amazed they haven't come up with a second drawing to raise more application funds?
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I'm amazed they haven't come up with a second drawing to raise more application funds?
:yeah: also include tags that people don’t want from the main draw, give them 2 weeks to decide to give permits back and give points back.
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Got mine about 45 minutes ago. Deer and elk were still available for me. I only got deer. Happy to have it.
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Getting close....I'm at the front of no line an hour early
How did you do?
Somebody fumbled after being distracted by a jerk. Oh well, might give me a better idea.
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Getting close....I'm at the front of no line an hour early
How did you do?
Somebody fumbled after being distracted by a jerk. Oh well, might give me a better idea.
that sucks, 99% of the strategy of getting this tag is being at a place where they are very prepared and aware of how quick this needs to happen. I think that’s half the reason I was able to purchase the multi season elk two years in a row was because the ladies I went to were very aware and prepared.
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I had prior engagements that morning but managed to make it to fred Meyer's by 9:50 and I was first in line. I should have taken that as a hint... The kid behind the counter was click happy and logged himself out at 10. At 10:03 he was signed back on and asking for my numbers again... Won't be using fred meyers next year. :bash:
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Thanks for supporting the General Fund it is much appreciated!! :chuckle:
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The woman at the Fred Meyers in Bonney lake told me that they can’t do a multi season tag that and I needed to call WDFW..... five minutes later I’m walking out of Walmart with my multi season tag smh. :bash:
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Was quite the show yesterday morning. I went to Walmart (Knew that would be a mistake) and they called WDFW to have them void my standard tag. The lady on the phone said since I applied and didn't get drawn I was not eligible to get a left over. I laughed at the Walmart employee and said ok....I will go somewhere else. I went to the regional office in Ephrata where I should have gone in the first place and did it there. When the lady there called Olympia, the same lady answered the phone and told her the same thing and the lady in Ephrata told her no, she was wrong and then the lady in Olympia fessed up and said, actually I am not authorized to do it and everyone that can is in a meeting all day. Both myself and the lady at the Ephrata office were pretty frustrated at this point. LOL. I left my number and carried on with my morning and about 3 hours later I got a call that they had finally voided my tag and that they were ready to sell me my multi season tag. Quite the Sh## show, but at least I got it done.
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Last time I bought one, the lady at the counter listened to me an hour before as I told her what was up. Then she realized it was like trying to buy a concert ticket, and she was all over trying to get it done for me when the time came.
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Stupidity. All the man-hours lost and massive frustration attempting to purchase leftover tags at vendor's who don't know how the system works.
Just another WDFW mismanaged program that could easily be improved.
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They should just sell them to the people who's numbers were next on the drawing. So they draw a 1000 numbers and they are the ones selected. So if 150 people don't purchase them they should offer them to the people who were assigned the numbers after the 1000 drawn until they are gone. (Hope that makes sense. ) That seems fair to me anyways.
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They should just sell them to the people who's numbers were next on the drawing. So they draw a 1000 numbers and they are the ones selected. So if 150 people don't purchase them they should offer them to the people who were assigned the numbers after the 1000 drawn until they are gone. (Hope that makes sense. ) That seems fair to me anyways.
:yeah: basically a list of alternates from the first draw! Easy!
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They should just sell them to the people who's numbers were next on the drawing. So they draw a 1000 numbers and they are the ones selected. So if 150 people don't purchase them they should offer them to the people who were assigned the numbers after the 1000 drawn until they are gone. (Hope that makes sense. ) That seems fair to me anyways.
They could offer the 150 left overs to the next 150 in line but all 150 will not buy one. If they sell 100 then they have 50 left over. So they offer those 50 to the next 50 in line but only 30 but one..
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A friend wants to know who you call on the weekend before buying the multi tag
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the multi season tag should just be able to be bought over the counter every season for anyone who wants it imop.... if it does not change to that then i think who put in should be able to purchase leftovers as is....
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Require the $$$ up front when applying, this weeds out those who aren't serious. No left overs!!!
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There aren't leftovers in other categories just MS. OIL tags have backups if primary tag holder turns it down.
Bonus to $$$ up front is if there are leftovers they could sell them right after the draw rather than 2 weeks before season.
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Just make people pay before applying. None of the ridiculous circus, and better odds.
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I think they'd need to have the regular special permit draw before the multi-season if they wanted people to pay multi up front.
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Require the $$$ up front when applying, this weeds out those who aren't serious. No left overs!!!
:yeah: Pay up front for multi and for oils.
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Years ago, you had to put the money up front for OIL. You were sent a check if you did not draw.
I believe I paid for one OIL tag, but not the other two.
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I dont think they have a problem with leftover OIL tags and would cost the department money in the refund process. Maybe require a valid CC for OIL apps. Multi season goes through this every year and in more recent years there have been more deer apps than tags, yet there were 2800 unclaimed deer tags this year. I think MS is really the only one at this point that should require pay up front, 2800 guys weren't able to use the tag to full potential.
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I believe the first draw gives MS elk guys the option to opt out if they drew for a special hunt. It seems the easiest way to handle the unsold MS tags in August is have a second draw where applicants provide a CC number or check to apply. If you are drawn in the second draw, you bought it.
Tried to buy my MS deer tag today. WDFW phones are all jacked up in the licensing division. You get a recording that the number is no longer in service on the two lines indicated on the website. Had to call the main WDFW main line and get transferred in. Once I went to the store to turn in my transport tag and purchase the MS tag, the clerk ran into the same problem, and went through the same method I did to talk to someone in Licensing. That department doesn't know what's up with the phones. They think they work fine. PITA! At least ninety minutes wasted doing a transaction that should take five.
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Require the $$$ up front when applying, this weeds out those who aren't serious. No left overs!!!
Don't like that idea
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also let hunters who didn't apply just go buy once the leftovers are released.. makes no sense at all a licensed hunter cannot go buy a leftover :bash:
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Require the $$$ up front when applying, this weeds out those who aren't serious. No left overs!!!
Don't like that idea
Reasoning? If you're willing to pay for it when you draw it you should be willing to pay up front. Another option would be to give 30 days to purchase if drawn. Again possibly 2800 deer guys and 130 elk guys this year are paying the full amount but cannot use it for draw options, kinda BS if you ask me! I agree if you pay up front then leftovers should be available to everyone!
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If they should be made avail for everyone, why not did everyone one apply in the beginning? Should only be made avail to those that purchased the MS deer or elk application to begin with. Or no one would jump in a purchase an application, and just wait to buy the leftovers.
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:yeah:
MS deer though, they could just sell over the counter, hunter's buying them until all 5800 or so sell out (which is never). Why so many apply for this tag then never even purchase it makes little sense to me. Certainly, they didn't all draw a special hunt. Perhaps it just gives them options later in the season.
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I wouldn't mind paying up front if they ran the draws a little quicker. No point in building up interest on the credit card unnecessarily.
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Picked one up today.
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deer or elk?
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Deer, the vendor told me the morning the elk tags went on sale they sold three of them before they were sold out.
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If they should be made avail for everyone, why not did everyone one apply in the beginning? Should only be made avail to those that purchased the MS deer or elk application to begin with. Or no one would jump in a purchase an application, and just wait to buy the leftovers.
If you paid up front you would obviously get a tag, IF there are leftovers who cares who buys them. My point is there are guys the last few years that dont even draw a deer tag but then there are 2800 tags leftover that could have been used for special drawings. Elk is a different story but still 130 leftover.
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Why thought is why did they not apply if they wanted one, selling them over the counter, might l ave some without, maybe they should allow the none drawn to have two weeks to by a leftover since they originally applied then last week of August open up to all
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I believe the first draw gives MS elk guys the option to opt out if they drew for a special hunt. It seems the easiest way to handle the unsold MS tags in August is have a second draw where applicants provide a CC number or check to apply. If you are drawn in the second draw, you bought it.
Tried to buy my MS deer tag today. WDFW phones are all jacked up in the licensing division. You get a recording that the number is no longer in service on the two lines indicated on the website. Had to call the main WDFW main line and get transferred in. Once I went to the store to turn in my transport tag and purchase the MS tag, the clerk ran into the same problem, and went through the same method I did to talk to someone in Licensing. That department doesn't know what's up with the phones. They think they work fine. PITA! At least ninety minutes wasted doing a transaction that should take five.
this is why i dont get my deer or elk tag until after all is said and done with draw and leftover purchases.I don't have to call,i can go purchase at any time my multi tag whether drawn or not because i don't have a deer tag to turn in. :tup: Since i do this and im sure there are many others out there we should be able to purchase leftover tags at home on the wild site. :twocents:
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Require the $$$ up front when applying, this weeds out those who aren't serious. No left overs!!!
Don't like that idea
Reasoning? If you're willing to pay for it when you draw it you should be willing to pay up front. Another option would be to give 30 days to purchase if drawn. Again possibly 2800 deer guys and 130 elk guys this year are paying the full amount but cannot use it for draw options, kinda BS if you ask me! I agree if you pay up front then leftovers should be available to everyone!
If they pay up front?If they pay up front they would be able to purchase,Difference is that if they dont even put up the 7,50 for the app then why should they be able to purchase same as the hunters that did pay the 7.50 but were not drawn? NO WAY! IF NO APP NO BUY.
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My theory was assuming that those who really want it would be paying up front but I see your point Oh Mah, so my thought is flawed a bit but still think pay up front would be best. :twocents:
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yes pay up front for both :tup:
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For deer they should just make it an over the counter option in the first place. Just take the money on the front end. Anyone who wants one ends up with them anyway
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I don't get it.If it was over the counter would they sell out? :dunno: How many apply for it to begin with?
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If I remember right there were over 10k apps for 8500 tags, yet 2800 went unclaimed.
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that's what i was thinking.Now that being said problem with over the counter anything these days is the antis trying to buy stuff up.Use the grizzly tags for example if it was over the counter until all tags gone at 10 k each the rich anti groups can come in buy them up and not even have the obstacle of a draw.I know i know they probably don't care about these multi's but this is why i don't agree with any over the counter tags for any limited hunts. :twocents: Now if you want to talk about something like a sportsman's tag where you purchase all hunting tags permits at 1 time for deer and elk multi season for around but under $500 total.Then i'm in.
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Wish we had/
Wa. multi season sportsman's tag.
Deer multi season tag
Elk multi season tag
Bear tag
Cougar tag
Discount small game
fishing license (fresh water or salt water)
$500.00