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Title: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: hunter399 on July 13, 2018, 06:55:07 PM
Your all welcome to post some bear pics for testing.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: hunter399 on July 13, 2018, 06:58:31 PM
Few more
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 13, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Black
Black
Black

Black
Black
Black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Big6bull on July 13, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 13, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
This one has been a challenge to a few buddies. It is not a Washington bear for what it’s worth. I thought for sure it was a grizzly bear but some were not so sure.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180714/faa9420648693fa2ac604c0d89ab07ad.jpg)
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Big6bull on July 13, 2018, 07:14:04 PM
 :yeah: Black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 13, 2018, 07:14:58 PM
@SilkOnTheWetSide

@fillthefreezer
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: b0bbyg on July 13, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
ALL Bears!! 

 :chuckle:

I am no expert but that last one has a big head and little ears. and a little hunched at the shoulder.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: grundy53 on July 13, 2018, 07:27:42 PM
I'm going with all blacks so far. But Jackelope's made me hesitate.

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Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 13, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Not a great pic but from what i see,Big hump for standing square on all 4,Can't see face or claws so i would not shoot this bear. GRIZZLY
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 13, 2018, 07:43:01 PM
I'm going with all blacks so far. But Jackelope's made me hesitate.

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You think the one I posted is a black bear?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: grundy53 on July 13, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
I'm going with all blacks so far. But Jackelope's made me hesitate.

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You think the one I posted is a black bear?
Yeah

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Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 09:27:51 AM
I'm going with all blacks so far. But Jackelope's made me hesitate.

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You think the one I posted is a black bear?
Yeah

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It's an interesting one.  I've gotten mixed answers from a few buddies who are experienced bear hunters. Some say black and some say griz. This bear was in Wyoming so it could be either. Our resident WA outfitter said it was a grizzly.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Cougartail on July 14, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
That's way to pronounced of a hump to be anything but a Griz.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 09:42:38 AM
I'm no bear expert and would never try to act like one, but I've never really thought the hump was a sure fire way to ID one from the other. Too many times people see a shoulder hump and automatically jump to the grizzly thing. Black bears have shoulder blades too, and in the right stance, those shoulder blades will protrude. In this case I think you're right because it's pretty much standing flat.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: fishngamereaper on July 14, 2018, 09:47:52 AM
Jack's is a grizz. 



Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Cougartail on July 14, 2018, 09:52:44 AM
A good way to sharpen your "ID" skills is to watch all the bow hunting videos of black and grizzly bears. The footage is up close so you get to see the bears in different scenarios and positions.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 14, 2018, 09:53:34 AM
@jackelope

I don’t see the facial features of a griz on that bear.
Still hard to say.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 09:56:48 AM
@jackelope

I don’t see the facial features of a griz on that bear.
Still hard to say.

This is what threw the other guys off too.

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 14, 2018, 10:36:59 AM
@jackelope

I’m shooting the first bear you posted.

It’s a black bear. Ears and face are that of a black.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: hunter399 on July 14, 2018, 10:52:12 AM
Here one more.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Ironhead on July 14, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
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frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What is this?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 14, 2018, 11:21:59 AM
@Ironhead

That’s a griz.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
@Ironhead

That’s a griz.

He's dead.












@Rainier10
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: KFhunter on July 14, 2018, 12:07:09 PM
This one has been a challenge to a few buddies. It is not a Washington bear for what it’s worth. I thought for sure it was a grizzly bear but some were not so sure.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180714/faa9420648693fa2ac604c0d89ab07ad.jpg)

This is a massive black, but I'm not pulling the trigger at this point until I watch it for a bit.  The bear is too long, too big of a rear in proportion to the shoulders, and lacks the facial features of a grizz. 

This bear would get me excited!
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 14, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
Can a grizzly bear mate with a black bear?


Species and subspecies of bear known to have produced offspring with another bear species or subspecies include brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears and polar bears, all of which are members of the Ursus genus. Bears not included in Ursus, such as the giant panda, are probably unable to produce hybrids.

Since it bares on this subject i checked.Very interesting.
Title: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 12:22:14 PM
This is the same results I got when I sent this pic out to several buddies. Some insisted it was a grizzly and others were convinced it was a giant black bear. The folks I surveyed were all very experienced hunters who have killed multiple bears and hunt all over the west for the most part. One of those guys said he was sure it was a grizzly and he sent it to a buddy of his who guides brown bear hunts in Alaska. That guy also agreed it was 100% a grizzly.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180714/9391bc16bcca0e8fe0fe9cc629b4528d.png)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180714/975fd347acd3cb39199ca8473bc0284b.png)
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: KFhunter on July 14, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
The good news is we don't have to shoot it until we're sure  :tup:

So I'd glass that a good while before I sent it, and if it ran off before I was sure then so be it.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 12:33:32 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180714/510aa092c4676f608886fd10dd5ba7a5.png)
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 14, 2018, 12:36:51 PM
That DH feller is smart.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 12:49:58 PM
@bearpaw

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: bearpaw on July 14, 2018, 01:23:15 PM
I'm with KFhunter on the bear jackelope posted, at first glance you think it might be a grizzly but the face, ears, and rear end look more like a blackie, I think it's a big black, but I would wait till he turned his head to see the outline to make sure he didn't have a dished forehead. Then BOOM!
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: grundy53 on July 14, 2018, 02:19:42 PM
I'm with KFhunter on the bear jackelope posted, at first glance you think it might be a grizzly but the face, ears, and rear end look more like a blackie, I think it's a big black, but I would wait till he turned his head to see the outline to make sure he didn't have a dished forehead. Then BOOM!
This is exactly what I was thinking.

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Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: grundy53 on July 14, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
But I'm by no means a bear expert.

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Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: CaNINE on July 14, 2018, 02:54:15 PM
I've gotta go with grizzly on jacklope's pic.  Was this taken in NW Wyoming?

Edit:  had to come back and look at this after taking the Montana bear identification course....switching to black bear...big big sow.

http://fwp.mt.gov/education/hunter/bearID/

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: dontgetcrabs on July 14, 2018, 09:04:05 PM
All of them black bears, yes jackelope even yours.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 10:06:54 PM
I’m not convinced.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
Just to be clear, the 2nd bear I posted a pic of is not the same as the 1st one.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: bearpaw on July 15, 2018, 10:23:54 PM
Just to be clear, the 2nd bear I posted a pic of is not the same as the 1st one.

I was referring to the first you posted in the sage, the second cinamon bear is a blackie for sure. Bang
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Skillet on July 16, 2018, 12:20:41 AM
Great challenge.  That bear in the sage is a big ol black bear.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: yakimanoob on July 16, 2018, 09:46:08 AM
I'm going with:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: yakimanoob on July 16, 2018, 09:49:52 AM
Except for the video of the bright colored griz. 

And I'm not 100% sure on jackalope's second bear.  I feel very confident the first one is a black bear.  I should point out I don't have half the creds of some of the folks who seem to think it's a griz, but that doesn't change how I feel about it. 

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 16, 2018, 10:52:27 AM
Jack's first bear is a black bear.

There is absolutely no grizzly face resemblance, whatsoever. 
The color is also wrong.



Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: mountainman on July 16, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
Both of Jakelopes pics are of black bears.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 16, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
I'm with KFhunter on the bear jackelope posted, at first glance you think it might be a grizzly but the face, ears, and rear end look more like a blackie, I think it's a big black, but I would wait till he turned his head to see the outline to make sure he didn't have a dished forehead. Then BOOM!
This is exactly what I was thinking.

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my thoughts as well
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Eric M on July 16, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
I think it's a black bear but it identifies itself as a grizzly and expects everyone else to.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on July 17, 2018, 05:23:24 PM
Two more pics to ponder
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: KFhunter on July 17, 2018, 05:36:22 PM
sows with cubs = no shoot

species irrelevant   :IBCOOL:


do I win?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 17, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
Those are all blackies
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 17, 2018, 06:27:12 PM
Those are all blackies

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 17, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
How about this guy?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 17, 2018, 07:17:03 PM
black no doubt.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 17, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Yup Blackie, ear gives him away
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: tgomez on July 17, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
Identify?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 17, 2018, 09:05:46 PM
Lol. One of each
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 17, 2018, 10:10:26 PM
How about this guy?

But he’s got a shoulder hump!?!?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 18, 2018, 04:20:45 AM
Has to be a griz!
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: tgomez on July 18, 2018, 02:33:41 PM
Black bear or Grizzly?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 18, 2018, 02:36:57 PM
black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: grundy53 on July 18, 2018, 03:36:27 PM
Black

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Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 18, 2018, 04:06:53 PM
Black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: tgomez on July 18, 2018, 06:40:56 PM
?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: KFhunter on July 18, 2018, 06:48:40 PM
black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: tgomez on July 18, 2018, 09:05:01 PM
Good job identifying everyone. :tup:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: BKMFR on July 18, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
Sooo Stupid for a requirement!!
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: yakimanoob on July 19, 2018, 08:29:42 AM
How about this guy?

I'm still sticking with black.  The "hump" just looks like a shoulder blade in a weird position to me.  + the ear looks a lot like a black bear. 

I have zero interesting photos to add.  Keep 'em coming folks!  This is fun. 
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: yakimanoob on July 19, 2018, 08:30:07 AM
?
Black for sure.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 10:08:50 AM
How about this guy?

I'm still sticking with black.  The "hump" just looks like a shoulder blade in a weird position to me.  + the ear looks a lot like a black bear. 

I have zero interesting photos to add.  Keep 'em coming folks!  This is fun. 

Here's a better picture showing clearly, he is a black.
It's funny how a certain angle can portray something so differently.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: hunter399 on July 19, 2018, 10:48:29 AM
What is this guy ?
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 10:51:37 AM
Black
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 10:57:14 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/a566c1de7b2211bcc20a99f3df8c5b58.png)
Title: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 10:57:33 AM
Soak that in a minute or 3. I’ll post the rest of the pics in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 11:01:25 AM
https://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/cinnamon-bear-that-made-the-rounds-in-upper-county-relocated/article_49cd170a-9a75-520b-856f-99ab023d770d.html


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/56daa77e0cab45458377d9a4888924ff.png)

There are people arguing and insulting each other thinking it’s a Grizz on the Facebook.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 11:20:02 AM
Here’s a front facing photo of the actual 500 pound grizzly bear that’s been breaking into homes.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/b49b29d5d6d9d3076fd9655bb02b23a9.png)

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: bearpaw on July 19, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 11:25:31 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/cdd098b32f9b0d52f88993544d4e47cd.png)
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: KFhunter on July 19, 2018, 11:39:08 AM
That little bear isn't going to learn how to be a real bear living away from people, they learn from the sow at a very young age what and how to eat and how to forage, it's either going to die a long slow death of starvation or more likely find more people to scavenge from.  They need euthanized.

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: tlbradford on July 19, 2018, 11:50:32 AM
Bearpaw echoes my thoughts as well on Jackelope's photo.  Front on I am 95% certain it is a gorgeous black bear, but I would want to see it's profile to confirm.  It seems those shoulder humps are more pronounced on a black bear when they are standing with their front feet below their back feet.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: mountainman on July 19, 2018, 12:14:51 PM
Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..

The bear walking towards the trap and the bear in front of the garbage are definitely different bears.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jasnt on July 19, 2018, 12:42:04 PM
But neither one is a grizz
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
Absolutely agree.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 19, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Here’s a front facing photo of the actual 500 pound grizzly bear that’s been breaking into homes.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/b49b29d5d6d9d3076fd9655bb02b23a9.png)
agree with everyone on this black for sure lol.not 500# either.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 05:19:24 PM
Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..

Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..

The bear walking towards the trap and the bear in front of the garbage are definitely different bears.

I agree I think. Weird that the article says it is.
:dunno:

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: mountainman on July 19, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..

Front on view is not the same bear as in the other pics..

The bear walking towards the trap and the bear in front of the garbage are definitely different bears.

I agree I think. Weird that the article says it is.
:dunno:



Reporter probably couldn't tell the obvious difference..probably never been in the woods and seen a bear in real life
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 07:34:20 PM
Probably a 206er or a 360er.





 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
Probably a 206er or a 360er.





 :chuckle:

Hey at least you didn’t say a 425’er.
I’m in the clear.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 07:43:41 PM
I forgot about those! 

Maybe a 253er or a 425er.

Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2018, 07:46:26 PM
I forgot about those! 

Maybe a 253er or a 425er.

Maybe a translocated 509’er!!!
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Timberstalker on July 19, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
 :chuckle: :chuckle:
 :tup:
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: Oh Mah on July 19, 2018, 10:17:54 PM
I forgot about those! 

Maybe a 253er or a 425er.

Maybe a translocated 509’er!!!
lol 509er's cover a pretty large area.
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: The Marquis on July 20, 2018, 08:11:52 AM
I forgot about those! 

Maybe a 253er or a 425er.

Maybe a translocated 509’er!!!
lol 509er's cover a pretty large area.

As do the 360'ers
Title: Re: Huntwa bear id test
Post by: b0bbyg on July 20, 2018, 08:57:45 AM
I forgot about those! 

Maybe a 253er or a 425er.

Maybe a translocated 509’er!!!
lol 509er's cover a pretty large area.

As do the 360'ers

I am a 360'er  but I am at the outer edge,  I request to be excluded.   :chuckle:
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