Post by: Bob33 on July 17, 2018, 06:31:30 AM
Within the last few days, Goodall, 84, and Moss, 78, entered a lottery hoping to win a coveted hunting license in Wyoming allowing them to sport shoot a grizzly bear in the Yellowstone region. They have no aspirations to actually kill a bruin. Their maneuver is part of a mass act of civil disobedience to protest Wyoming’s controversial hunt of up to 22 grizzlies—the first in 44 years—slated to commence only weeks from now.
Called “Shoot ‘em With A Camera, Not A Gun,” the impromptu campaign, spearheaded mainly by women, has caught hunting officials in Wyoming off guard. It has also created a groundswell among those who condemn the state’s recommencement of a trophy season on grizzlies just a year after they were removed from federal protection. In May, Wyoming’s wildlife commission approved the hunt unanimously 7-0.
“People felt desperate, wanting to do something positive that could help keep these bears alive. I think we surprised ourselves at how much public support this has gotten in so little time,” says Jackson Hole conservationist Lisa Robertson.
Targeted Plan
The strategy of “Shoot ‘em With A Camera” is to swamp Wyoming’s random system for allocating bear licenses with applications from non-hunters. Should they be awarded a coveted tag, they’ll head into the mountains this fall to take pictures of grizzlies rather than stalking them with rifles.
Begun less than a week ago, “Shoot ‘em” has gone viral on social media. A final push is being made to enlist thousands of bear advocates to apply for a hunting license (https://wgfd.wyo.gov/apply-or-buy) before Monday’s deadline (July 16) at midnight mountain time.
The campaign grew out of a meeting of 19 concerned citizens (16 of them women) and then a group of five who floated the unconventional concept in an ad in the local Jackson Hole newspaper. Ann Smith provided her phone number to answer any questions and she braced for the worse.
“What stunned me is the number of positive calls I’ve received and 85 to 90 percent have come from women,” Smith says. Driving around Jackson Hole in a replica antique pick-up truck, the bed of Smith’s vehicle has a near life-sized stuffed teddy bear in it with a sign that reads “Grizzly Lives Matter.” “No one has called me up on the phone and yelled at me,” she said. I’ve received lots of affirmative horn honks and people giving me thumbs up.”
Brian Nesvik, chief game warden with the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, is not so enamored. He acknowledged he was surprised at how fast the campaign mobilized, heightening a level of drama that was already unprecedented given that it involves the wildlife symbol of the Yellowstone region.
Thousands of hunters nationwide and plenty in his state, he said, are excited by the prospect of being able to take a grizzly, with the odds of securing a license still astronomically low. Now, with perhaps thousands of additional applications pouring in, it makes those chances even slimmer.
“This is more about taking away hunting opportunity than having an impact on our population management objective,” Nesvik said, noting that with 700 grizzlies in the Greater Yellowstone region, Wyoming’s quota will not jeopardize the population.
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Post by: grundy53 on July 17, 2018, 06:43:35 AM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on July 17, 2018, 07:00:37 AM
I can see this being the new norm though. Maybe they should require a state hunting license before applying. Make these "protesters" spend more time and money supporting a cause they don't support.
Post by: baker5150 on July 17, 2018, 07:04:59 AM
Buying tickets in protest of hunting, but pouring money into an agency that supports and manages hunting....ya makes sense. People are so stupid it makes me dummer thinking about them.
I can see this being the new norm though. Maybe they should require a state hunting license before applying. Make these "protesters" spend more time and money supporting a cause they don't support.
I'm surprised they are allowed to purchase without a hunter ed card.
I doubt the state cares, with the extra revenue it's generating.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 17, 2018, 07:05:54 AM
We'll see how bad they want to save a grizzly when they have to pony up $6000 for the tag. But I'm glad they are raising money for Wyoming fish and game.:yeah: I would imagine the fish and game dept will draw back up winners, pretty easy to see if the winner has bought past hunting licenses.
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Post by: birddogdad on July 17, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
We'll see how bad they want to save a grizzly when they have to pony up $6000 for the tag. But I'm glad they are raising money for Wyoming fish and game.:yeah: I would imagine the fish and game dept will draw back up winners, pretty easy to see if the winner has bought past hunting licenses.
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Fern lickers with money, they will buy licenses if drawn. This aggressive assault by anti's happens all over. the only way to counter this is long-term availability. if this is a one off, the lickers win. if this becomes annual or sustained, then next year correction for harvest from previous year, reset of numbers ect will over the long haul dilute the impacts of these do gooders....no legislation to prevent this from occurring anywhere, any state for any special draws.... No one should be surprised, but lobbies to fix would most likely fail with the money this group can throw at it. Wolf group has a toe hold and now working for more....
Post by: lamrith on July 17, 2018, 07:48:46 AM
?Buying tickets in protest of hunting, but pouring money into an agency that supports and manages hunting....ya makes sense. People are so stupid it makes me dummer thinking about them.
I can see this being the new norm though. Maybe they should require a state hunting license before applying. Make these "protesters" spend more time and money supporting a cause they don't support.
I'm surprised they are allowed to purchase without a hunter ed card.
I doubt the state cares, with the extra revenue it's generating.
Too bad they up there in age and do not have to pass a Hunter safety course to apply for the draw. WY age cutoff for requiring Hunter's Ed is born before 1966. Can you imagine either of them going thru a hunters ed course??
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Post by: kselkhunter on July 17, 2018, 07:58:36 AM
They should take the money and hand out the tags. Then after taking their money announce that any of the 22 tags that go unfilled, the department of fish and game will go cull a grizzly from that unit to meet reduction objectives. That should help deter the protesters from doing it again next year, knowing they're just wasting their money.
And next year, WY can institute a special hunters ed course specific for the grizzly tag complete with firearm proficiency course, and other hurdles to make it more difficult to repeat the protest, etc.
Post by: tritt007 on July 17, 2018, 08:02:49 AM
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Post by: timberghost72 on July 17, 2018, 06:11:28 PM
It's good to see extra funding for WY department of fish and game.
They should take the money and hand out the tags. Then after taking their money announce that any of the 22 tags that go unfilled, the department of fish and game will go cull a grizzly from that unit to meet reduction objectives. That should help deter the protesters from doing it again next year, knowing they're just wasting their money.
And next year, WY can institute a special hunters ed course specific for the grizzly tag complete with firearm proficiency course, and other hurdles to make it more difficult to repeat the protest, etc.
:yeah:
This was my exact thought also. It may take the opportunity away from a hunter in the short term but in the end the Grizzly will be killed by the state due to management. Sucks for the hunters if this does happen though.
Post by: timberghost72 on July 17, 2018, 06:17:40 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on July 17, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
I think it's great, hopefully a million other people join her in supporting the grizzlies. The money is sorely needed to help game agencies.It is a win win no matter how we look at it.As was stated already sell the tags 6k each.When they don't get filled next year up quota every year etc. fill the account of Wyoming fish and game.If only we didn't do that here with wolves (but for less than 6k)Make it about the cost of going out of state to hunt a wolf x3 we wouldn't have these money problems in WDFW.
Post by: KFhunter on July 17, 2018, 06:35:30 PM
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Post by: dreamunelk on July 17, 2018, 07:25:55 PM
Leave the price,Drain them for all it's worth.Soon they will show their true colors when they abandon this because of cost when the bears still get harvested anyway by hunters that also get drawn.They should raise the quota knowing all of this as well. :twocents:
:yeah:
Makes sense to me. I will add that increasing the permits may be needed. Overall they have decided that x amount can be harvested. So depending on species and other they will offer y amount of permits knowing that some will not harvest. Wait till for a trend and than adjust permits accordingly. This and what is quoted effectively ignores there effort. Be interesting to see how much they contribute before they fade away? Than again it could be a new way to fund wildlife agencies and still maintain opportunity.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 17, 2018, 07:32:50 PM
Post by: Cougartail on July 17, 2018, 07:40:31 PM
:yeah: :chuckle:
For every bear humans kill by hunting, big bears kill 33+ smaller bears in Alaska.
Trophy hunting increases bear populations..
Funny how if we kill something it's bad but if an animal kills another it's good. Weird!
Post by: Humptulips on July 17, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on July 17, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
Unfilled tags should make for a good Spring Season draw. Be easy for them to announce a Spring Season after the draw is over.
:yeah:
That would be so funny!
I can see it now. "Due to low harvest we are now offering permits for a spring hunt".
I would love to be sitting there with a healthy glass of Pendleton watching the protestors when that was announced.
In a couple days they could announce "We are tripling the number of permits in an attempt to achieve desired management objective."
Post by: Bob33 on July 27, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
Associated Press
Updated 13 min ago
JACKSON, Wyo — A well-known nature photographer from Nebraska and fierce critic of grizzly bear hunting has drawn a tag for Wyoming's first such hunt in 44 years.
The Jackson Hole News & Guide reported Thursday that Tom Mangelsen drew No. 8 on an issuance list that will allow up to 10 grizzly hunters into the field starting Sept. 15. He was up against 3,500 Wyoming residents and 2,327 nonresidents vying for a shot at the tags.
Mangelsen, who credited being chosen to "dumb luck," was among scores of people from around the country who applied for the tags as a means of civil disobedience intended to slow the hunt. Wildlife managers say the tactic is legal.
The hunt for which Mangelsen's tag is valid will end after the first female bear is killed. Up to 10 male grizzlies can be killed.
Mangelsen grew up in Nebraska and has a gallery in Omaha's Old Market.
He intends to spend his allotted time "hunting with a camera," Mangelsen said in a Facebook post. "With only one person allowed in the field at one time, hopefully the ten days I take up will save the lives of some of these amazing animals
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She had recorded infanticide and cannibalism, her pet Frodo, attacked and ate human babies, and she hid the details for many years because it was not inline with her agenda.
Post by: X-Force on July 27, 2018, 10:42:02 PM
Anyone know what it cost to apply? Using WA rate that is almost 35k. Add in the $600 for resident and $6k for non. That is a junk of money.
$15 apply
$6000 tag
Post by: 2labs on August 10, 2018, 11:57:46 AM
Ya know, grizzlies love the smell of patchouli oil...... :dunno:
Thought a big Monkey ripped her in half?
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 10, 2018, 12:04:50 PM