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Title: Taimen in Mongolia
Post by: huntnphool on March 15, 2009, 10:21:04 PM: Have any of you ever fished for taimen in Mongolia?
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 15, 2009, 10:23:00 PM: No, read lots about them though. You either use a ground squirrel as bait, or a fly that matches the ground squirrel hatch. you plannin' another trip Phool?
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Post by: JoeVon on March 15, 2009, 10:29:16 PM: Once,

in a dream...
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Post by: Skinner on March 15, 2009, 10:41:13 PM: That would be something else using a ground squirell as bait!!
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 15, 2009, 10:45:02 PM: ...not kidding... that's what the mongolian guides use.
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Post by: Skinner on March 15, 2009, 11:01:37 PM: THats probably what we eat at mongolian grill too . Fried squirell. Its not bad though.
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Post by: Intruder on March 16, 2009, 07:52:02 AM: Had a trip in the works back in like 2000. Fell through for me but had some buddies go. They had a blast.
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Post by: Dmanmastertracker on March 16, 2009, 08:28:44 AM: I don't travel, except by road :chuckle:

Dale at Don's in Lewistown has fished for them. He had some stories, lures completely crushed, searing runs and crazy jumps. Must be quite a battle.
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Post by: deaddog on March 16, 2009, 11:45:21 AM: Quote from: Skinner on March 15, 2009, 10:41:13 PM
That would be something else using a ground squirell as bait!!
Sounds like bait and a sandwich spread all in one jar. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 16, 2009, 09:47:47 PM: Quote from: Skinner on March 15, 2009, 11:01:37 PM
THats probably what we eat at mongolian grill too . Fried squirell. Its not bad though.

...Ground squirrel... The Other White Meat...
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Post by: boneaddict on March 18, 2009, 09:24:23 AM: WTH, you eavesdropping on Jacks and my e-mails again. We were just talking about that. I think Obama should stimulate me and send us over as our God given American right. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 12:08:02 PM: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Ghost1941 on March 18, 2009, 12:26:52 PM: I've never heard of Taimen prior to this, however I just went and looked. It doesn't seem they're that big... but why the hell do they fish for them with a ground squirrel? Or am I just not seeing the correct pictures?
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 12:28:44 PM: You must be looking at some little ones. The one's I read about were in the 7 and 8 foot long category. THAT'S why you fish with a ground squirrel....
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Post by: Intruder on March 18, 2009, 12:33:37 PM: Quote from: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 12:28:44 PM
You must be looking at some little ones. The one's I read about were in the 7 and 8 foot long category. THAT'S why you fish with a ground squirrel....

That's a bit of stretch. 50" are not uncommon though.
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Post by: jackelope on March 18, 2009, 12:34:25 PM: you're not seeing the correct picture.

the big ones are huge. the average ones are not extremely huge.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5xDsHMSyg&feature=related[/youtube]
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Post by: Ghost1941 on March 18, 2009, 12:35:26 PM: This is one of the pictures I saw.

https://www.waderson.com/images/fishing_holidays/201_WO_huge_taimen.jpg
Title: Re: Taimen in Mongolia
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 12:36:08 PM: I'll see if I can find any of the magazines. Maybe my memory is hazy...
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Post by: jackelope on March 18, 2009, 12:36:46 PM: giant carniverous fish on the fly in one of the earth's most beautiful places...

what could be better?
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Post by: Ghost1941 on March 18, 2009, 12:37:47 PM: Hmm, ok. I guess I can see that. They are a decent size. Ya'll eat em too, or what?
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 12:38:31 PM: I'll check my back copies of Flyfisherman. Seems I remember a picture of a guy casting upstream to one that was over 8 feet long. Like I said, maybe my memory is hazy...
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Post by: jackelope on March 18, 2009, 12:42:38 PM: scroll back up a ways and look at the youtube vid i posted...there's some trucks in there.
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Post by: boneaddict on March 18, 2009, 12:44:54 PM: It would be like fishing for kings with lemmings, and the biggest kings we know of, like the Kenai strain, where the 70 pounders are some of the small ones. Seems to me, a 9 weight fly rod with a huge mouse pattern dipped in blood, would be a BLAST. LOL
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Post by: walt on March 18, 2009, 01:11:04 PM: I remember that article too Pathfinder101. I don't remember which mag, I think it was about 4 years ago, but I do remember monster fish. Should we start planning a hunt-wa Far East side rendezvous 2010? Anyone know how much fuel and how long it would take the 10hp to push the driftboat across the Pacific?
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Post by: boneaddict on March 18, 2009, 01:11:51 PM: We can borrow the aqua loggers barge since he might not be needing it now.
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Post by: Ghost1941 on March 18, 2009, 01:15:00 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 18, 2009, 01:11:51 PM
We can borrow the aqua loggers barge since he might not be needing it now.

Lol. :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Taimen in Mongolia
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 01:23:45 PM: Quote from: walt on March 18, 2009, 01:11:04 PM
I remember that article too Pathfinder101. I don't remember which mag, I think it was about 4 years ago, but I do remember monster fish. Should we start planning a hunt-wa Far East side rendezvous 2010? Anyone know how much fuel and how long it would take the 10hp to push the driftboat across the Pacific?

Not much fuel if we cross Mongol/Native American style up by the Berring Straits. Probably pick up a couple of guides on the way down... If I remember right, you bascially go for a week and hope to catch one fish. Get up on the high ground and spot and stalk...
Title: Re: Taimen in Mongolia
Post by: Intruder on March 18, 2009, 01:28:00 PM: Quote from: jackelope on March 18, 2009, 12:36:46 PM
giant carniverous fish on the fly in one of the earth's most beautiful places...

what could be better?

you left out watchin em eat your fly as you swing it past their beak :rockin:
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 01:56:41 PM: I fished the Frying Pan River in Colorado a few years ago beneath the Ruedi Dam. HUGE rainbows on tiny mysis shrimp. Same type of deal; spot from above and stalk, then cast over and over and over until you get a take. I fished 6 hours and got one take from a fish that I am guessing was around 10 lbs. I was so suprised when he finally went for it I pulled the fly right out of his $#@!ing mouth :bash: :bash: :bash:

That was it. 6 hours. One take. :'(
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Post by: Dmanmastertracker on March 18, 2009, 02:33:21 PM: Why you use a ground squirrel..
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Post by: Ghost1941 on March 18, 2009, 02:51:02 PM: Haha, I've seen Northern's do that.
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2009, 05:15:38 PM: :yike:
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Post by: whacker1 on March 18, 2009, 05:20:57 PM: Bone - Is a 9 wt big enough?
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Post by: Intruder on March 19, 2009, 08:27:07 AM: Quote from: whacker1 on March 18, 2009, 05:20:57 PM
Bone - Is a 9 wt big enough?

9wt is fine. 2 hander, depending on the river is really nice.
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Post by: boneaddict on March 19, 2009, 08:29:15 AM: I'm sure it would test it to the limits, but as long as you have a spare.....
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Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2009, 08:37:42 AM: i don't see the need for anything bigger, especially in the 2 handed 13' long variety.
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Post by: boneaddict on March 19, 2009, 08:59:13 AM: could you imagine a chum salmon that pushed the 80-100 pound range. :yike:
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Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2009, 09:05:28 AM: i think most of them are not so big...with the very occasional big boy.
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Post by: boneaddict on March 19, 2009, 09:16:07 AM: oh fine...how about a 70-80 pound chum. :chuckle:
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Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on March 20, 2009, 12:05:10 PM: You guys do know they are the biggest member of the salmon family right? yep bigger then kings
Title: Re: Taimen in Mongolia
Post by: huntnphool on March 20, 2009, 12:08:55 PM: Quote from: Hoytstaffshooter83 on March 20, 2009, 12:05:10 PM
You guys do know they are the biggest member of the salmon family right? yep bigger then kings

Nope, compairing them to a 90 pound chum was just a lucky shot in the dark :DOH:
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Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on March 20, 2009, 02:38:05 PM: well some comments did not seem to point in that direction
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Post by: ribka on March 22, 2009, 01:39:14 PM: I worked in Russia in the 1990's and managed to get out to the remote areas adn do quite a bit of fishing.

Fished in Siberia area North of Norilsk and caught quite a few taimen. Biggerst one went over 60 lbs. Saw many bigger.Awesome fish. Caught a few smaller ones on a fly rod (10 wt) throwing big streamers
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Post by: wazzuhunter on March 22, 2009, 05:04:42 PM: Quote
You guys do know they are the biggest member of the salmon family right? yep bigger then kings

Do they fight as hard?
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Post by: popeshawnpaul on March 23, 2009, 12:13:20 PM: More importantly, they have giant gobi and altai argali sheep there... Maybe I should make a "cast and snap" trip... I just looked up airfare and it is 2k per person. Ouch.
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Post by: whacker1 on March 23, 2009, 01:34:44 PM: Maybe it should be "cast and bang"?
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Post by: ribka on August 18, 2009, 04:39:16 PM: Wanted to do an archery sheep or ibex hunt when in Russia. Too expensive Shot a wild boar with my recurve while there. Wolf hunting was very popular there and is a depised animal. Russians did not understand the hunting with a bow. I think archery is now mor epopular.
Yes, Taimen are very good fighters. Blast to catch
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Post by: Alchase on August 19, 2009, 01:33:30 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 18, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
I think Obama should stimulate me and send us over as our God given American right. :rolleyes:

Bone I believe you have already been estimulated by Obama...just waiting for the pain to hit ;)