Post by: jasnt on July 26, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
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Post by: castie2504 on July 26, 2018, 11:14:21 AM
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Post by: 2MANY on July 26, 2018, 01:49:45 PM
Wolves being wolves.
It's pathetic.
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on July 26, 2018, 02:42:23 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on July 26, 2018, 04:08:01 PM
Post by: jasnt on July 26, 2018, 04:18:37 PM
Sorry for the cattleman’s monetary loss.the money is not the issue.
Post by: idahohuntr on July 26, 2018, 04:37:33 PM
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Post by: jasnt on July 26, 2018, 05:03:54 PM
It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.hefers are not sold for slaughter unless barren. No one likes to see one of their animals suffer , food or not all of us try to kill quickly as possible. Killing an animal does not bother me in the slightest. Seeing one suffer is a different story. That is where the emotions come into play.
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Post by: mburrows on July 26, 2018, 07:32:14 PM
Post by: wolfbait on July 26, 2018, 09:06:17 PM
Sad situation, imagine what the wolves have and are doing to the game herds, while WDFW play with their fake studies.
Post by: bornhunter on July 26, 2018, 10:19:09 PM
Post by: ribka on July 27, 2018, 04:02:57 AM
It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.hefers are not sold for slaughter unless barren. No one likes to see one of their animals suffer , food or not all of us try to kill quickly as possible. Killing an animal does not bother me in the slightest. Seeing one suffer is a different story. That is where the emotions come into play.
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
People who never owned raised and cared for livestock would never understand
Huge disconnect in our culture because majority live in urban areas and have no idea where their food comes from plus there is a lot of hatred for ranchers here in WA.
Post by: jasnt on July 27, 2018, 05:17:52 AM
sadly I believe you are correct. They couldn’t completely understand without walking that mile.It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.hefers are not sold for slaughter unless barren. No one likes to see one of their animals suffer , food or not all of us try to kill quickly as possible. Killing an animal does not bother me in the slightest. Seeing one suffer is a different story. That is where the emotions come into play.
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
People who never owned raised and cared for livestock would never understand
Huge disconnect in our culture because majority live in urban areas and have no idea where their food comes from plus there is a lot of hatred for ranchers here in WA.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 27, 2018, 05:28:00 AM
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Post by: Jpmiller on July 27, 2018, 09:25:38 AM
Wolves need managing and sooner than later. Cattlemen and anyone else for that matter have a right to reasonable protection from predation on their animals but I don't like trying to use the narrative involving the emotional hardships on an animals "family".
I've raised animals for personal consumption, cows, pigs, chickens, and turkeys.
Post by: 2MANY on July 27, 2018, 09:54:47 AM
Hatred? I’m not sure what your referring to
I believe jealousy is a better word.
Most people are jealous of the ranchers large tracks of land.
Others take issue with the ranchers BLM grazing agreements.
Haters gonna hate.
Basically ignorant people.
The same people you catch trespassing on the ranches and full of excuses when caught.
They are also the first to feel like they are entitled to trespass on large ranches but the minute the buy 10 acres out west the first thing they do is post it.
Like my dad has said for years, "California's right wingers will move to the Rockies and become the mountain state's new left".
So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WSU on July 27, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
I raise cows for meat (a hobby more than anything) and understand how you get connected. Comparing a cow to a human girl is unpersuasive to me.
Post by: 2MANY on July 27, 2018, 10:13:56 AM
Not to mention most ranchers have strong family values.
Try to remember the new series Yellowstone isn't reality.
Post by: jasnt on July 27, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
I believe the rancher was attempting to put in terms that the screaming libertards could understand.my thoughts as well. The letter wasn’t written for like minded people.
Not to mention most ranchers have strong family values.
Try to remember the new series Yellowstone isn't reality.
Post by: tracksoup on July 27, 2018, 10:17:06 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on July 27, 2018, 11:40:37 AM
I grew up with cattle even as a young adult one of my saddest memories was of a grown cow having complications post delivery. I had raised her from a bottle and it was her second or third calf. She recovered but was high risk for breeding. From a working/monetary standpoint she was food. Its a difficult bond to explain. I didn't feel like I owed her or needed to be there when she died like a good dog, and I knew she would fetch more per pound so it made sense to butcher and use or sell meat. But I sold her at a loss to avoid killing her myself.
Humanizing animals is different than being honest about attachment/emotion. IMO
Post by: Special T on July 27, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.So using an emotional appeal is wrong. Why is that?
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Have the facts been persuasive for those that have no understanding of the situation? Is the whole debate about wolves a well reasoned and honest debate?
Six and emotion not only sells it has a greater chance of call to action. That is why the Anti hunter crowd uses it, and why we should use it as well.
Saul Alinski rules for radicals
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
Of course the Antis wouldn't like us to use emotion... because we have tried to argue facts to an emotional crowd...
How many of you are brave enough to claim you win most of your arguments with your wife?
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Post by: Mudman on July 27, 2018, 12:24:27 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on July 27, 2018, 12:42:49 PM
Where did I say emotional appeal is wrong? I said don't humanize cattle or wildlife. Why do I say not to humanize them...because that perpetuates the Disney story myth that non-hunters will get duped into so the antis can more successfully vote away our hunting opportunities. Don't play checkers in a game of chess. :twocents:It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.So using an emotional appeal is wrong. Why is that?
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Have the facts been persuasive for those that have no understanding of the situation? Is the whole debate about wolves a well reasoned and honest debate?
Six and emotion not only sells it has a greater chance of call to action. That is why the Anti hunter crowd uses it, and why we should use it as well.
Saul Alinski rules for radicals
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
Of course the Antis wouldn't like us to use emotion... because we have tried to argue facts to an emotional crowd...
How many of you are brave enough to claim you win most of your arguments with your wife?
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Post by: Mudman on July 27, 2018, 01:41:10 PM
Post by: 2MANY on July 27, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
Kinda reminds me of the saying, "Sticken it to the Man".
Post by: Special T on July 27, 2018, 03:02:52 PM
People here argue with their wife??????I personally refrain... because any married man knows even when you win, you loose...
Kinda reminds me of the saying, "Sticken it to the Man".
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Post by: Special T on July 27, 2018, 03:13:25 PM
Where did I say emotional appeal is wrong? I said don't humanize cattle or wildlife. Why do I say not to humanize them...because that perpetuates the Disney story myth that non-hunters will get duped into so the antis can more successfully vote away our hunting opportunities. Don't play checkers in a game of chess. :twocents:It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.So using an emotional appeal is wrong. Why is that?
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Have the facts been persuasive for those that have no understanding of the situation? Is the whole debate about wolves a well reasoned and honest debate?
Six and emotion not only sells it has a greater chance of call to action. That is why the Anti hunter crowd uses it, and why we should use it as well.
Saul Alinski rules for radicals
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
Of course the Antis wouldn't like us to use emotion... because we have tried to argue facts to an emotional crowd...
How many of you are brave enough to claim you win most of your arguments with your wife?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Part of the reason why we fail is because we reason and sell to our own level of understanding. It's a natural failing of most people on nearly any topic.
Clearly what we have been doing isnt working. The general public only reacts when they can see how it impacts themselves. Many people have the Disney view of animals. Perhaps the way to shake them up is by showing how horrible it actually is by making them see both sides of "nature". Nature is more cruel than most realize...
Is it possible the writer could have had a better pitch? Sure. But what is most important is we quit selling to ourselves and sell to the ignorant public... a sales job that is working for the antis but not for us... we should adopt many of thier strategies.
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Post by: Mudman on July 27, 2018, 03:38:16 PM
Post by: ribka on July 27, 2018, 04:09:00 PM
That I don’t understand. Where I live ranchers are not hated but I do see and hear a lot of dislike on the web.
Should have more specific. Read any article about wolves and ranchers in the Seattle times, Portland news, Washington post, ny times etc and see how urban dwellers view ranchers and cattle . Very negative
Post by: jasnt on July 27, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
just like logging, I think(puts on tin foil hat :tinfoil: ) the less people that care about public land the sooner they can sell it off. Plenty of powerful people would benefit from the selling of public lands, so they push agendas that will help their end goals. If you can’t hunt public land, if you can’t log public land, if you can’t graze public land, if you can’t rv public land, if you can’t recreate public land.....then who cares if it gets sold, after all its to expensive to maintain. We all need to stick together in the public land fight,even those users that interfere with our interests at times. Jmo on the matter. I’ve seen a lot of anti everything I listed aboveThat I don’t understand. Where I live ranchers are not hated but I do see and hear a lot of dislike on the web.
Should have more specific. Read any article about wolves and ranchers in the Seattle times, Portland news, Washington post, ny times etc and see how urban dwellers view ranchers and cattle . Very negative
Post by: Tbar on July 27, 2018, 05:25:20 PM
:yeah:Where did I say emotional appeal is wrong? I said don't humanize cattle or wildlife. Why do I say not to humanize them...because that perpetuates the Disney story myth that non-hunters will get duped into so the antis can more successfully vote away our hunting opportunities. Don't play checkers in a game of chess. :twocents:It is a mistake for cattlemen or hunters to anthropomorphize cows or wildlife. We all lose when we use tactics out of the animal rights playbook.So using an emotional appeal is wrong. Why is that?
He says "in human terms, she would have been a 5 or 6 year old girl-halfway between birth and puberty, with-hopefully-her whole life ahead of her"...so that's bad that the wolf killed her so young and he wants to tug at those emotions...then how does he explain when this calf becomes older, is loaded into a truck hauled somewhere, shot in the head and butchered to be sold off at market?
To be fair...I bristle when I hear hunters who oppose late season cow hunts by attacking wildlife agencies with "you're killing pregnant elk".
Have the facts been persuasive for those that have no understanding of the situation? Is the whole debate about wolves a well reasoned and honest debate?
Six and emotion not only sells it has a greater chance of call to action. That is why the Anti hunter crowd uses it, and why we should use it as well.
Saul Alinski rules for radicals
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
Of course the Antis wouldn't like us to use emotion... because we have tried to argue facts to an emotional crowd...
How many of you are brave enough to claim you win most of your arguments with your wife?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
I completely agree with Idaho on this.
Post by: bigmacc on July 27, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
Tear jerking stories of wolves evil carnage. Pics of animals including Fido and Alleycat and horses/cows etc. should flood billboards. Commercials. Warnings of zoonotic diseased people etc. Moose/Caribou extinction. Do this and the public view would change very quickly! It works, its their game, its only way to defeat em imop! Every person with a Facebook should act this way. Sorry I cant do fadbook….
Yep :yeah:....For every picture of a wolf with its foot caught in a trap or wolf pups looking for their mom(but she can't be found because she was shot :'( :'() etc. etc. All of those "to the heart" ads that the antis use to get attention and sympathy for their cause should be countered, because it works, period. Start showing ads or plastering face book with pics of a fawn, a calf elk, cows, horses whatever, that have been attacked and been eaten from the rear end in only to be left still alive while they go find another. I didn't know this until awhile ago but a wolf apparently is the only animal on earth that "thrill kills", the pack will stalk and kill only to leave it dead or near death and move on to repeat over and over, they are teaching the young pack members how to hunt in a pack dynamic, they will kill just to kill. There is a reason these things were being eradicated at one time.
Post by: wolfbait on July 27, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
Tear jerking stories of wolves evil carnage. Pics of animals including Fido and Alleycat and horses/cows etc. should flood billboards. Commercials. Warnings of zoonotic diseased people etc. Moose/Caribou extinction. Do this and the public view would change very quickly! It works, its their game, its only way to defeat em imop! Every person with a Facebook should act this way. Sorry I cant do fadbook….
Yep :yeah:....For every picture of a wolf with its foot caught in a trap or wolf pups looking for their mom(but she can't be found because she was shot :'( :'() etc. etc. All of those "to the heart" ads that the antis use to get attention and sympathy for their cause should be countered, because it works, period. Start showing ads or plastering face book with pics of a fawn, a calf elk, cows, horses whatever, that have been attacked and been eaten from the rear end in only to be left still alive while they go find another. I didn't know this until awhile ago but a wolf apparently is the only animal on earth that "thrill kills", the pack will stalk and kill only to leave it dead or near death and move on to repeat over and over, they are teaching the young pack members how to hunt in a pack dynamic, they will kill just to kill. There is a reason these things were being eradicated at one time.
:yeah:
The problem is the USFWS their fake environmental pardoners brain-washed a generation plus, and WDFW etc. continue the same line of BS.
Posting photos of mass killings by wolves where they kill just to kill, or cows etc. with the calves ripped out and eaten the cow left alive to suffer, moose etc. that die a horrible slow death as wolves eat on them sometimes for days, it's an ugly sight. But it is what wolves do, there's nothing pretty about wolves and and how they kill. The pro-wolf side doesn't like these kind of pictures revealed to the public, it counters their sold image of wolves.
Many of the ranchers that are losing to wolves have lived their whole lives with their stock, caring for them year after year, they have a lifetime connection, and it hurts them to the core to watch a fake endangered wolf killing their stock, angers them that a corrupt USFWS and WDFW has overall say as to the outcome.
There are not near as many reports of wolf/livestock conflicts anymore, people have learned it only cost them money to contact WDFW, and wolf recipes are silent and cheap.
Post by: bornhunter on July 27, 2018, 10:10:05 PM
Post by: ribka on July 28, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
I think thats a bit over the top"a lot of hatred for ranchers in Wa." I know a bunch of ranchers and a bunch of people who know ranchers and I dont know anyone who hates ranchers. Now if you are talking about out of staters and tree huggers who hates ranchers then sure. But those haters hate everything that relates to the old ways, ranchers, farmers, hunters, Christians, etc.
Here ya go, read the comments if you think exaggerated
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/with-their-cattle-grazing-in-washingtons-wolf-country-ranchers-work-and-worry/
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/second-wolf-pack-targeted-for-killing-after-more-cattle-deaths/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/magazine/whos-afraid-of-the-big-bad-wolf-scientist.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/resurgent-wolves-again-are-fair-game/2012/09/16/b8971306-fe73-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1f654656b406
Post by: ribka on July 28, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Tear jerking stories of wolves evil carnage. Pics of animals including Fido and Alleycat and horses/cows etc. should flood billboards. Commercials. Warnings of zoonotic diseased people etc. Moose/Caribou extinction. Do this and the public view would change very quickly! It works, its their game, its only way to defeat em imop! Every person with a Facebook should act this way. Sorry I cant do fadbook….
Yep :yeah:....For every picture of a wolf with its foot caught in a trap or wolf pups looking for their mom(but she can't be found because she was shot :'( :'() etc. etc. All of those "to the heart" ads that the antis use to get attention and sympathy for their cause should be countered, because it works, period. Start showing ads or plastering face book with pics of a fawn, a calf elk, cows, horses whatever, that have been attacked and been eaten from the rear end in only to be left still alive while they go find another. I didn't know this until awhile ago but a wolf apparently is the only animal on earth that "thrill kills", the pack will stalk and kill only to leave it dead or near death and move on to repeat over and over, they are teaching the young pack members how to hunt in a pack dynamic, they will kill just to kill. There is a reason these things were being eradicated at one time.
:yeah:
The problem is the USFWS their fake environmental pardoners brain-washed a generation plus, and WDFW etc. continue the same line of BS.
Posting photos of mass killings by wolves where they kill just to kill, or cows etc. with the calves ripped out and eaten the cow left alive to suffer, moose etc. that die a horrible slow death as wolves eat on them sometimes for days, it's an ugly sight. But it is what wolves do, there's nothing pretty about wolves and and how they kill. The pro-wolf side doesn't like these kind of pictures revealed to the public, it counters their sold image of wolves.
Many of the ranchers that are losing to wolves have lived their whole lives with their stock, caring for them year after year, they have a lifetime connection, and it hurts them to the core to watch a fake endangered wolf killing their stock, angers them that a corrupt USFWS and WDFW has overall say as to the outcome.
There are not near as many reports of wolf/livestock conflicts anymore, people have learned it only cost them money to contact WDFW, and wolf recipes are silent and cheap.
Yeah that
Post by: Tbar on July 28, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
Have you watched the pro wolf crowd in action? I don't think you'll get near the "shock" value you guys are hoping for. They spin things the way they want.Tear jerking stories of wolves evil carnage. Pics of animals including Fido and Alleycat and horses/cows etc. should flood billboards. Commercials. Warnings of zoonotic diseased people etc. Moose/Caribou extinction. Do this and the public view would change very quickly! It works, its their game, its only way to defeat em imop! Every person with a Facebook should act this way. Sorry I cant do fadbook….
Yep :yeah:....For every picture of a wolf with its foot caught in a trap or wolf pups looking for their mom(but she can't be found because she was shot :'( :'() etc. etc. All of those "to the heart" ads that the antis use to get attention and sympathy for their cause should be countered, because it works, period. Start showing ads or plastering face book with pics of a fawn, a calf elk, cows, horses whatever, that have been attacked and been eaten from the rear end in only to be left still alive while they go find another. I didn't know this until awhile ago but a wolf apparently is the only animal on earth that "thrill kills", the pack will stalk and kill only to leave it dead or near death and move on to repeat over and over, they are teaching the young pack members how to hunt in a pack dynamic, they will kill just to kill. There is a reason these things were being eradicated at one time.
:yeah:
The problem is the USFWS their fake environmental pardoners brain-washed a generation plus, and WDFW etc. continue the same line of BS.
Posting photos of mass killings by wolves where they kill just to kill, or cows etc. with the calves ripped out and eaten the cow left alive to suffer, moose etc. that die a horrible slow death as wolves eat on them sometimes for days, it's an ugly sight. But it is what wolves do, there's nothing pretty about wolves and and how they kill. The pro-wolf side doesn't like these kind of pictures revealed to the public, it counters their sold image of wolves.
Many of the ranchers that are losing to wolves have lived their whole lives with their stock, caring for them year after year, they have a lifetime connection, and it hurts them to the core to watch a fake endangered wolf killing their stock, angers them that a corrupt USFWS and WDFW has overall say as to the outcome.
There are not near as many reports of wolf/livestock conflicts anymore, people have learned it only cost them money to contact WDFW, and wolf recipes are silent and cheap.
Post by: wolfbait on July 28, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
Have you watched the pro wolf crowd in action? I don't think you'll get near the "shock" value you guys are hoping for. They spin things the way they want.Tear jerking stories of wolves evil carnage. Pics of animals including Fido and Alleycat and horses/cows etc. should flood billboards. Commercials. Warnings of zoonotic diseased people etc. Moose/Caribou extinction. Do this and the public view would change very quickly! It works, its their game, its only way to defeat em imop! Every person with a Facebook should act this way. Sorry I cant do fadbook….
Yep :yeah:....For every picture of a wolf with its foot caught in a trap or wolf pups looking for their mom(but she can't be found because she was shot :'( :'() etc. etc. All of those "to the heart" ads that the antis use to get attention and sympathy for their cause should be countered, because it works, period. Start showing ads or plastering face book with pics of a fawn, a calf elk, cows, horses whatever, that have been attacked and been eaten from the rear end in only to be left still alive while they go find another. I didn't know this until awhile ago but a wolf apparently is the only animal on earth that "thrill kills", the pack will stalk and kill only to leave it dead or near death and move on to repeat over and over, they are teaching the young pack members how to hunt in a pack dynamic, they will kill just to kill. There is a reason these things were being eradicated at one time.
:yeah:
The problem is the USFWS their fake environmental pardoners brain-washed a generation plus, and WDFW etc. continue the same line of BS.
Posting photos of mass killings by wolves where they kill just to kill, or cows etc. with the calves ripped out and eaten the cow left alive to suffer, moose etc. that die a horrible slow death as wolves eat on them sometimes for days, it's an ugly sight. But it is what wolves do, there's nothing pretty about wolves and and how they kill. The pro-wolf side doesn't like these kind of pictures revealed to the public, it counters their sold image of wolves.
Many of the ranchers that are losing to wolves have lived their whole lives with their stock, caring for them year after year, they have a lifetime connection, and it hurts them to the core to watch a fake endangered wolf killing their stock, angers them that a corrupt USFWS and WDFW has overall say as to the outcome.
There are not near as many reports of wolf/livestock conflicts anymore, people have learned it only cost them money to contact WDFW, and wolf recipes are silent and cheap.
Posting picture and telling the stories of what wolves are really about are for those who were and are still being fooled by the propaganda that the USFWS-WDFW put out, pictures of the truth are for the general public.
I know people have and are changing their opinions of wolves as more of the truth is exposed. Just like the last incident with the girl that was treed by wolves. Plus there have been several books that have come out that contradict the USFWS, WDFW and the fake environmentalists.
There isn't a photo taken that would shock or change the pro-wolfers way of thinking, they have an agenda. They already know the truth, and yet they continue to down play or spew the same crap as WDFW etc., no amount of cruelty or depletion of the game herds from wolves will change their way of thinking, $$$$$$$.
Post by: bornhunter on July 28, 2018, 09:33:37 PM