Post by: fillthefreezer on August 09, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
Post by: shallowforks on August 09, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Then it says base weight is 33# and skin out is 50.7#
Can you explain these three numbers. I spreadsheet all my gear as well so its good to see how others compute.
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 09, 2018, 10:12:52 PM
Pack weight is actual weight hanging from the straps. With food. Water to start the hike. Actual weight when rolling out. Skin out weight is relevant in my opinion because it's everything, and that's stressing muscles, joints, caloric intake, etc
Post by: shallowforks on August 09, 2018, 10:20:19 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 09, 2018, 10:22:52 PM
so skin out is the pack plus everything your wearing? underwear, socks, boots, pants, shirt etc.? so does the skin out weight include your food, water etc? meaning your pack is 47# and your boots and clothes your wearing is 3.1#?Exactly. I run very hot, and don't start wearing boots til later in the year or we have shorter approaches or more off trail planned
Post by: shallowforks on August 09, 2018, 10:29:38 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 09, 2018, 10:50:29 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 09, 2018, 11:00:16 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 10, 2018, 06:39:51 AM
Post by: buglebrush on August 10, 2018, 07:45:37 AM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on August 10, 2018, 07:46:51 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 10, 2018, 07:53:38 AM
Ounces make pounds and pounds make pain. I've realized I enjoy the Backcountry so much more with a lighter pack. There's no way I'd pack that many jackets. Super-down and rain gear would be it for me. :twocents:That many jackets? There's a rain shell, a down jacket, and a hooded sun layer..
Post by: shallowforks on August 10, 2018, 09:31:01 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on August 10, 2018, 09:37:36 AM
I like having the foam around camp and glassing but I'm not sleeping on just that
Winterlite AND the z-lite is a pretty darn toasty pad setup. You mentioned this being for summer bear, so maybe you'd be fine with just the winterlite?
Have you seen the Thermarest Z-seat? I use that for glassing, and at $15 and 2 oz, it's hard to beat...
Post by: yakimanoob on August 10, 2018, 10:29:55 AM
You have it listed at 5oz, which is surely not correct? Is it actually 5 oz??
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 10, 2018, 10:39:31 AM
Also how do you like the OR backcountry organizer? I've been looking at that for awhile, pondering if it's actually worth the $$.I own a couple small, sit pad size z lites, I like the full size. Extra insurance on not popping a pad and if it does happen, one guy can sleep on 2 z lites pretty dang cozy.
You have it listed at 5oz, which is surely not correct? Is it actually 5 oz??
Pretty sure the 5 oz is accurate. I ran all the contents of it in a KU medium pullout for quite a few years and when it finally fell apart, I made the switch. It's probably the only part of my kit I really like the finite organization in. Imo, itsceasily worth its weight
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on August 10, 2018, 02:14:46 PM
I like having the foam around camp and glassing but I'm not sleeping on just that
Winterlite AND the z-lite is a pretty darn toasty pad setup. You mentioned this being for summer bear, so maybe you'd be fine with just the winterlite?
Have you seen the Thermarest Z-seat? I use that for glassing, and at $15 and 2 oz, it's hard to beat...
It may seem crazy, but a few trips into the woods with a popped pad will usually change your opinion.
That being said it’s extremely versatile. It allows for comfy naps and allows you to stretch out on wet ground without getting soaked.
Once I started packing it, I’ve never stopped.
The extra “jacket” is no worse then a mid layer. It’s certainly not a jacket in the traditional sense 🤷♂️
I don’t see cigarettes on your list. WTF over...
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Post by: fillthefreezer on August 10, 2018, 04:08:47 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 10, 2018, 04:42:18 PM
I thought you had the smokes??you kids and ur wacky tobacci......
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 30, 2018, 08:46:59 AM
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Post by: ctwiggs1 on August 30, 2018, 08:57:16 AM
You're a classy guy. Good luck to you guys! :tup:
Post by: milldozer on August 30, 2018, 09:31:37 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 30, 2018, 09:35:18 AM
Not sure if that is how you will strap your rifle, but you might consider running the upper strap/buckle beneath your scope. Always makes me nervous to cinch down over my scope. Just a thought. Otherwise I dig your kit.That strap is probably the least of the worries for any scope I own.. 😬😬
Have you seen nightforces latest torture video?
Post by: X-Force on August 30, 2018, 09:37:22 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 30, 2018, 11:23:04 AM
Is that a home brew bag on a SG frame?It is
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 30, 2018, 11:38:30 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on August 30, 2018, 04:14:23 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 30, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
I don't see too good anymore and have a cow tag......looks like a shooter to me :chuckle:
Me either - coulda sworn it was a blonde sow........