Post by: bassquatch on August 18, 2018, 05:11:37 PM
I will not own another GMC/Chevy again in my lifetime.
Do not like the Toyota although they are good trucks.
I like the Ram interiors and the 5.7 but no fan of the Italian transmissions.
Nissan = NO.
So I pose my question to current Ford F150 owners and your experiences with the 3.5L V6 and the 5.0L V8:
Likes / dislikes regarding the motor?
I only tow under 4K so either will do but likes / dislikes on towing?
Likes / dislikes on fuel economy?
How many miles have you logged?
I will be buying a Ford. Finger on the trigger just need to pull on the right one. My concerns are lack of knowledge on turbos and the fuel economy of the V8. I only average about 8-10K miles a year on my truck since I've embraced the commuter car life so I would be a little concerned about turbos just sitting around in between use? Would that even matter?
Thank you in advance and thank you also to the other owners for not derailing the thread :tup:
Post by: 10mmg on August 18, 2018, 05:40:46 PM
Post by: bassquatch on August 18, 2018, 05:45:02 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 18, 2018, 07:45:25 PM
I don’t own one but am surrounded by them day in and day out. The ecoboost had some intercooler issues early on but have been mostly trouble free since. I’ve definitely seen more issues with the 5.0’s but those problems are few and far between also. We service 50-60 appointments a day and a significant number of those appt’s are F-150’s. Take it for what it’s worth.
Post by: bassquatch on August 18, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
The 3.5L ecoboost tows better than any of the V8’s.
I don’t own one but am surrounded by them day in and day out. The ecoboost had some intercooler issues early on but have been mostly trouble free since. I’ve definitely seen more issues with the 5.0’s but those problems are few and far between also. We service 50-60 appointments a day and a significant number of those appt’s are F-150’s. Take it for what it’s worth.
So which is it? The statements seem contradictory. Thanks for the input though.
Post by: jackelope on August 18, 2018, 08:41:06 PM
The issues the trucks do have are not engine related. We do hubs now and then. Some electrical issues. Nothing major. Mostly we do a lot of maintenance. We’ve had a rash of sunroof issues lately but the trucks are all relatively new, so warranty repairs.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 18, 2018, 08:52:15 PM
At the last oil change I was informed that I have a leaking oil pan and they will replace it at the next oil change but it doesn’t drip on the floor.
Loads of power
Post by: bassquatch on August 18, 2018, 08:58:32 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 18, 2018, 09:11:20 PM
I’ve got 26k miles on a 17 with the 3.5. So far been a great truck took it to southern Idaho , south west Wyoming, and central Colorado hunting last fall and it did great. I average 20 mpg across the board.
At the last oil change I was informed that I have a leaking oil pan and they will replace it at the next oil change but it doesn’t drip on the floor.
Loads of power
Make sure they replace the oil pan. It’s a plastic one time use pan. If it comes off, it gets replaced.
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on August 18, 2018, 09:18:50 PM
8 months ago I bought a 2015 3.5 ecoboost, lariat, long bed, 4 door. FX4, the whole ball of wax. Had 47,000 miles on it and it now has about 53, 000. I love this Truck. Lots of extra stuff I didn’t need, but is real nice. Heated/cooled seats along with steering wheel heat is nice. All which u can get in a 5.0 anyway.
After 8 months I’m at 15.4 mpg. Combination of mostly backroad, some city, some freeway. I put on a 2 inch level with a 33.2 tire. About an inch larger than stock.
This truck toes waaayyyy better than the 5.0 in my opinion. I mostly haul a 5x10 utility trailer with a quad and camping/hunting gear, which isn’t a ton of weight, but it hauls it much better than my 5.0 did. I don’t even know it’s back there with this truck. I feel that overall it has more power and is quicker also.
I don’t think u can go wrong either way. There’s a lot of YouTube comparisons. Off the line type videos. My buddy just put a cat back exhaust on his ecoboost and it sounds awesome.
Go test drive em’ and then buy the Eco! The newest ones have a 10 speed transmission in them also.
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Post by: Wolfdog2314 on August 18, 2018, 09:23:17 PM
The point I was trying to make is neither have a lot of issues.
The issues the trucks do have are not engine related. We do hubs now and then. Some electrical issues. Nothing major. Mostly we do a lot of maintenance. We’ve had a rash of sunroof issues lately but the trucks are all relatively new, so warranty repairs.
I will say my one complaint with my 15 is that the panoramic sunroof rattles. Sounds like if I take it in to a Ford shop that can fix me up? :dunno:
Post by: ruttnbuck on August 18, 2018, 09:44:31 PM
Post by: Alchase on August 18, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
It seams the gas mileage is all over the place?
Some posters say 22 - 25 MPG consistently, others say 15 mpg?
At 15 mpg with a V6, unless it tows better that the V8, and has better longevity, why go with the V6?
I am asking this because I have a 3.7 in my Dakota (obviously not comparing to the ecoboost) but if I knew I would get the mileage I do with the V6, I would have gone with the 5.9?
Post by: Nice Racks on August 18, 2018, 10:35:42 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2018, 07:47:24 AM
This is just a "perception" based on all the other Ford 3.5 V6 threads.
It seams the gas mileage is all over the place?
Some posters say 22 - 25 MPG consistently, others say 15 mpg?
At 15 mpg with a V6, unless it tows better that the V8, and has better longevity, why go with the V6?
I am asking this because I have a 3.7 in my Dakota (obviously not comparing to the ecoboost) but if I knew I would get the mileage I do with the V6, I would have gone with the 5.9?
The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2018, 07:48:23 AM
I just got rid of my V6 Flex fuel F150. Beautiful truck, and 19/23 mpg, but it was having trouble pulling my new trailer. I just traded it in for a 2019 Ram Rebel, and got 20 mpg going 65, but only 15.3 when going the speed limit which was 80 in Idaho. With the weight you're pulling it should do great.Was it an ecoboost F150 you got rid of?
The rebel is just a half ton too, correct?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 19, 2018, 07:53:04 AM
Ya hey mentioned that it needs replaced and it would take 2-3 days. I said I don’t care just give me a loaner. :chuckle:I’ve got 26k miles on a 17 with the 3.5. So far been a great truck took it to southern Idaho , south west Wyoming, and central Colorado hunting last fall and it did great. I average 20 mpg across the board.
At the last oil change I was informed that I have a leaking oil pan and they will replace it at the next oil change but it doesn’t drip on the floor.
Loads of power
Make sure they replace the oil pan. It’s a plastic one time use pan. If it comes off, it gets replaced.
Post by: bassquatch on August 19, 2018, 07:55:27 AM
I had a 2011 5.0 for about two years. Great Truck. Zero issues. Had it until about 80,000 miles. My only complaint was that it was the basic STX and the seat killed my back. And it was only an extra cab. Got about 15 mpg.
8 months ago I bought a 2015 3.5 ecoboost, lariat, long bed, 4 door. FX4, the whole ball of wax. Had 47,000 miles on it and it now has about 53, 000. I love this Truck. Lots of extra stuff I didn’t need, but is real nice. Heated/cooled seats along with steering wheel heat is nice. All which u can get in a 5.0 anyway.
After 8 months I’m at 15.4 mpg. Combination of mostly backroad, some city, some freeway. I put on a 2 inch level with a 33.2 tire. About an inch larger than stock.
This truck toes waaayyyy better than the 5.0 in my opinion. I mostly haul a 5x10 utility trailer with a quad and camping/hunting gear, which isn’t a ton of weight, but it hauls it much better than my 5.0 did. I don’t even know it’s back there with this truck. I feel that overall it has more power and is quicker also.
I don’t think u can go wrong either way. There’s a lot of YouTube comparisons. Off the line type videos. My buddy just put a cat back exhaust on his ecoboost and it sounds awesome.
Go test drive em’ and then buy the Eco! The newest ones have a 10 speed transmission in them also.
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Pretty much the exact set up I started looking at...until I stumbled across the 163" WB option :bash: I don't haul 'people' around and the option of still having an 8' bed is worth more to me than having a huge backseat! I also never did understand a sunroof in a pickup? Too much potential flex to not eventually have problems. I'm downsizing from an F350 V-10 Supercrew 8' bed so any of these whellbases will feel like a sportcar to me. I may have to order? Only Sound Ford in Renton has this package but only in an XLT and the interiors are hideous!
I am leaning towards the 3.5L Eco, a 3.73 rear end, the 163" wheelbase in a Lariat without sunroof...should be an easy find lol... Since I could potentially own this truck for 15-20 years, due to the limited mileage they see now, I want it to be right!
Post by: usmc74 on August 19, 2018, 08:19:35 AM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on August 19, 2018, 09:23:06 AM
Gotta say I love my sun roof in my older F150, it is much easier to look up at the mountains and hills while driving. Solar glass so no UV to burn my head. Keeps the truck cooler when parked in the sun if you crack it and then the windows, creates a better draft and a cooler interior while sitting.
Post by: b23 on August 19, 2018, 12:32:18 PM
The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
I don't have a F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost but I have a new Explorer with this motor and if I set the cruise right at the speed limit and don't go over, it gets really good mileage, but the more you creep above that, the faster it falls. I had a TRD supercharger put on my 13 Tacoma shortly after it was new and it's the same way. If I drive it like a granny, it'll get 22-24 MPG but I generally set the cruise 6-8mph over and that drops it down to 18-19.
I'm very happy with the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost, in fact, I've been thinking about selling my Tacoma and getting a new F150 with that motor.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 19, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
My trip to central Colorado last fall we averaged 17 for the entire trip. Cruise set to 85-90 most of the way and then a week of hunting driving and then 85-90 coming home. We were also loaded down both directions. Brought home an elk and 3 deer. Entire bed was full up to the top of the cab and we had coolers on a hitch rack.The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
I don't have a F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost but I have a new Explorer with this motor and if I set the cruise right at the speed limit and don't go over, it gets really good mileage, but the more you creep above that, the faster it falls. I had a TRD supercharger put on my 13 Tacoma shortly after it was new and it's the same way. If I drive it like a granny, it'll get 22-24 MPG but I generally set the cruise 6-8mph over and that drops it down to 18-19.
I'm very happy with the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost, in fact, I've been thinking about selling my Tacoma and getting a new F150 with that motor.
Post by: bassquatch on August 19, 2018, 02:36:10 PM
Makes sense to me and it's inline with every motor vehicle I've ever owned :tup:
Post by: dontgetcrabs on August 19, 2018, 03:10:46 PM
Post by: bassquatch on August 19, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on August 19, 2018, 04:33:12 PM
If I'm going to do that then why not a 6.2 and another F250 :chuckle:
Well then you gotta go with the 6.7 Powerstroke. :chuckle:
Post by: bassquatch on August 19, 2018, 04:37:44 PM
Funny but true, that's where the search started, as we were contemplating an in bed camper.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on August 19, 2018, 04:43:39 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
There is NO replacement for displacement. 8) 5.0 all the way. :IBCOOL:
Not accurate in this case.
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Post by: dontgetcrabs on August 19, 2018, 05:45:14 PM
There is NO replacement for displacement. 8) 5.0 all the way. :IBCOOL:
Not accurate in this case.
Boost the 5.0 and get back to me. :hello:
Post by: Nice Racks on August 19, 2018, 05:56:44 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2018, 06:10:42 PM
There is NO replacement for displacement. 😎 5.0 all the way. :IBCOOL:
Not accurate in this case.
Boost the 5.0 and get back to me. :hello:
Why?
I thought we were comparing 2 bone stock factory trucks.
Post by: b23 on August 19, 2018, 06:11:43 PM
There is NO replacement for displacement. 8) 5.0 all the way. :IBCOOL:
Not accurate in this case.
Boost the 5.0 and get back to me. :hello:
If that was an option, you'd have a valid point and I'd gladly agree, but a boosted 5.0 is only an option in the custom world and at a rather expensive price tag so it's a moot point.
Post by: bassquatch on August 19, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
Lots to ponder.... The only way I'm going to get a 163 set up the way I want means factory order and no discounts :'(
Took measurements today to see if I can make the 157 work? If I can, then I can hammer down the price and get most of the incentives applied :tup:
Post by: R2Rcoulee on August 19, 2018, 08:19:55 PM
Post by: b23 on August 19, 2018, 08:49:55 PM
Post by: Wingin it on August 20, 2018, 04:53:51 AM
Post by: bassquatch on August 20, 2018, 05:47:56 AM
I do not want to mess with todays diesels and all the DEF nonsense, not too mention I'm too far along in life to switch now :chuckle:
Honestly the 2.7L would pull my 2,000 pound boat and trailer around easily. I want the 3.5L just for the extra oomph for when we purchase our camp trailer next year. 80% of my towing is just my boat and only within one hour-ish of home. The rest would be longer distance runs with the boat OR the extra weight when I pull the camp trailer. I expect a 16-18 foot camper to weigh in the 4K range but that will only be 3-5 trips per year.
My biggest dilemma aside from wheelbase is going to be color :chuckle: I've owned silver trucks since 1998 as the exterior maintenance is absolutely minimal! Unfortunately that Magnetic color won't leave me alone...and I am also digging on the Shadow Black....better stock up on car wax I guess :yike:
Post by: bassquatch on August 21, 2018, 08:15:23 AM
I think I'm good and have what I need going forward, Mods please feel free to delete :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on August 21, 2018, 08:18:05 AM
Post by: thinkingman on August 21, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone :tup:I have owned a 2015 3.5Eco 159" for about 9 mos.
I do not want to mess with todays diesels and all the DEF nonsense, not too mention I'm too far along in life to switch now :chuckle:
Honestly the 2.7L would pull my 2,000 pound boat and trailer around easily. I want the 3.5L just for the extra oomph for when we purchase our camp trailer next year. 80% of my towing is just my boat and only within one hour-ish of home. The rest would be longer distance runs with the boat OR the extra weight when I pull the camp trailer. I expect a 16-18 foot camper to weigh in the 4K range but that will only be 3-5 trips per year.
My biggest dilemma aside from wheelbase is going to be color :chuckle: I've owned silver trucks since 1998 as the exterior maintenance is absolutely minimal! Unfortunately that Magnetic color won't leave me alone...and I am also digging on the Shadow Black....better stock up on car wax I guess :yike:
Just got back from Yellowstone and averaged 17mpg with 33" tires(Falken AT3w are so smooth and quiet) and a leveling kit, bed loaded with gear, driving 85mph much of the way.
Truck drives better than most cars....Smooth and quiet.
I drive in the city and the long wheelbase makes parking a pain.
You will be backing in to most spaces or parking in the farthest spots.
I love the Eco motor and if you feel the need for extra ponies, a tune will get you a ton more hp and torque.
The XLT 302A package with Sport is a great balance between Lariat pricing and luxury.
And I love the Magnetic Gray.
Post by: thinkingman on August 21, 2018, 02:20:34 PM
If you go to the F150 from your Tacoma, you'll wonder why you waited so long.The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
I don't have a F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost but I have a new Explorer with this motor and if I set the cruise right at the speed limit and don't go over, it gets really good mileage, but the more you creep above that, the faster it falls. I had a TRD supercharger put on my 13 Tacoma shortly after it was new and it's the same way. If I drive it like a granny, it'll get 22-24 MPG but I generally set the cruise 6-8mph over and that drops it down to 18-19.
I'm very happy with the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost, in fact, I've been thinking about selling my Tacoma and getting a new F150 with that motor.
My Tacoma was pathetic compared to the F150.
Post by: b23 on August 21, 2018, 03:56:19 PM
If you go to the F150 from your Tacoma, you'll wonder why you waited so long.The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
I don't have a F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost but I have a new Explorer with this motor and if I set the cruise right at the speed limit and don't go over, it gets really good mileage, but the more you creep above that, the faster it falls. I had a TRD supercharger put on my 13 Tacoma shortly after it was new and it's the same way. If I drive it like a granny, it'll get 22-24 MPG but I generally set the cruise 6-8mph over and that drops it down to 18-19.
I'm very happy with the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost, in fact, I've been thinking about selling my Tacoma and getting a new F150 with that motor.
My Tacoma was pathetic compared to the F150.
I bought my Taco new and waited about a month before I put the TRD supercharger on it. In stock form they're just kinda ok on power but with the TRD SC on, it's definitely a significant increase in power so there isn't that much difference between my Taco with the SC on it and my wife's Explorer with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I've been itching for a new truck so I'll be very interested to drive one of the new 2019 F-150 Limited with the H.O. 3.5 EcoBoost.
Post by: Alchase on August 21, 2018, 05:52:44 PM
(can't find anything that says how much on an increase, if any the SC increases towing.)
F150 with Eco-boost 3.5 - 365 horsepower and 450 lb-ft of torque, 11,300 lbs towing capacity
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Post by: jackelope on August 21, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
I drive a 2016 F150 for work. I've had it since it was new and have put about 46k on it over the last 2 years. The truck has the 3.5 and is a gutless wonder. I wouldn't recommend a newer Ford truck to anyone. My 2 cents.
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Safe to assume, since you’re calling it a gutless wonder, you’re driving the non ecoboost 3.5 v6? That engine has no business being in a full sized truck. Not sure why anyone would ever buy one.
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on August 21, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
Here is a website I have found helpful in comparing information on the vehicles you are interested in.
at....... https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/F-150
Doug
Post by: thinkingman on August 22, 2018, 09:01:51 AM
It's everything that surrounds the engine that's so pathetic.If you go to the F150 from your Tacoma, you'll wonder why you waited so long.The 3.5L is a bi-turbo. The fuel mileage will be all over the board based on how the truck is driven. Drive it like a grandma, youll do better. Drive it like you stole it, mpg’s go in the tank. I.E. how the turbos spool up. They have more power and torque than the V8’s. In fact, the only way to get the F150 with the 13,200 pound tow rating is with the 3.5.
I don't have a F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost but I have a new Explorer with this motor and if I set the cruise right at the speed limit and don't go over, it gets really good mileage, but the more you creep above that, the faster it falls. I had a TRD supercharger put on my 13 Tacoma shortly after it was new and it's the same way. If I drive it like a granny, it'll get 22-24 MPG but I generally set the cruise 6-8mph over and that drops it down to 18-19.
I'm very happy with the power of the 3.5 EcoBoost, in fact, I've been thinking about selling my Tacoma and getting a new F150 with that motor.
My Tacoma was pathetic compared to the F150.
I bought my Taco new and waited about a month before I put the TRD supercharger on it. In stock form they're just kinda ok on power but with the TRD SC on, it's definitely a significant increase in power so there isn't that much difference between my Taco with the SC on it and my wife's Explorer with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I've been itching for a new truck so I'll be very interested to drive one of the new 2019 F-150 Limited with the H.O. 3.5 EcoBoost.
You'll love the upgrade.
Post by: Tacbeav on August 22, 2018, 09:38:08 AM
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Post by: JWEBB on September 03, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
I’ve got a 15’ with the 3.5 Eco, absolutely love it. Tows like a dream, drives like a dream, parking does suck in tight spots though :chuckle: since I’ve owned it my mileage on the computer says 17.4. This is mostly driving to work via highway 9 and 405(terrible traffic most days) with a little bit of open highway mixed in, and some mountain road driving. Zero complaints, other than my multi function (wiper) switch went out which leaves my windshield wipers stuck on low. Cheap and easy replacement though. Oh and diy oil changes can get messy! Why do they put drain plugs on the side of the oil pans!!! :chuckle:
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What are you towing?
Post by: bassquatch on September 04, 2018, 10:00:33 AM
Lots of good info. Why not just leave it for future reference for others.
Good point, I just wanted to dip out before all the this vs. that stuff started :tup:
I have run Ford trucks since 1998 and haven't found a reason to switch to anything else yet. This is great info...I am pondering the 3.0ps but I'm just not familiar enough with diesel technology :dunno:
Post by: J.Brower on September 05, 2018, 05:43:28 PM
I’ve got a 15’ with the 3.5 Eco, absolutely love it. Tows like a dream, drives like a dream, parking does suck in tight spots though :chuckle: since I’ve owned it my mileage on the computer says 17.4. This is mostly driving to work via highway 9 and 405(terrible traffic most days) with a little bit of open highway mixed in, and some mountain road driving. Zero complaints, other than my multi function (wiper) switch went out which leaves my windshield wipers stuck on low. Cheap and easy replacement though. Oh and diy oil changes can get messy! Why do they put drain plugs on the side of the oil pans!!! :chuckle:
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What are you towing?
Ive got a 17’ alumaweld sled that I tow a couple times a month, heavier flat bed car/equip trailer with a couple ATV’s, and last week had a flatbed loaded with a couple thousand pounds of stuff for work. Nothing super heavy but everything I’ve put behind it I barely know it’s there. Still waiting for the opportunity to hook something heavier behind it and see how it does.
Post by: JWEBB on September 05, 2018, 10:44:01 PM
I’ve got a 15’ with the 3.5 Eco, absolutely love it. Tows like a dream, drives like a dream, parking does suck in tight spots though :chuckle: since I’ve owned it my mileage on the computer says 17.4. This is mostly driving to work via highway 9 and 405(terrible traffic most days) with a little bit of open highway mixed in, and some mountain road driving. Zero complaints, other than my multi function (wiper) switch went out which leaves my windshield wipers stuck on low. Cheap and easy replacement though. Oh and diy oil changes can get messy! Why do they put drain plugs on the side of the oil pans!!! :chuckle:
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What are you towing?
Ive got a 17’ alumaweld sled that I tow a couple times a month, heavier flat bed car/equip trailer with a couple ATV’s, and last week had a flatbed loaded with a couple thousand pounds of stuff for work. Nothing super heavy but everything I’ve put behind it I barely know it’s there. Still waiting for the opportunity to hook something heavier behind it and see how it does.
Nice! Sounds like a great truck! I might have to get rid of my 6.0. That gas mileage is very tempting