Post by: MHWASH on August 22, 2018, 07:25:27 PM
My partner has one, don't know the brand, but it takes 10 minutes to heat a cup of coffee. I'm assuming there is something quicker? All we use the stove for is coffee, but if I have to wait 10 minutes for the first cup, it's not worth packing.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 22, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 22, 2018, 07:45:36 PM
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Post by: MHWASH on August 22, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
Get a Jetboil and carry it with you during the day too - jump on the trail and have coffee while glassing in the field. Great for oatmeal, cocoa, and cup-a-noodles for lunch too. Coffee in 90 seconds. If not backpacking these little $20 units work great.
The wife bought me one of those propane ones and asked why I don't just use it.
I drew a late mule deer hunt that I also will,use the stove for to heat midday coffee, but the cup-a-noodles idea is great.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2018, 07:50:33 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 26, 2018, 08:04:13 AM
Jetboils are great but a better option is the MSR react or windburner. MSR is just superior quality. Stay away from all the gimmicky stoves. Get something that is fast and simple. Pocket rockets are great but on windy days they take forever. :twocents:
Love my Reactor in terms of burn time but the lack of its own ignition sucks.
Post by: hiway_99 on August 26, 2018, 09:03:41 AM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2018, 09:07:33 AM
that's why it's a fair comparison to the jet boil since the ignitor on the jetboil will stop working after a few dozen uses anyways :chuckle:Jetboils are great but a better option is the MSR react or windburner. MSR is just superior quality. Stay away from all the gimmicky stoves. Get something that is fast and simple. Pocket rockets are great but on windy days they take forever. :twocents:
Love my Reactor in terms of burn time but the lack of its own ignition sucks.
Post by: 300rum on August 26, 2018, 09:13:27 AM
A couple of years ago I went to Montana with a buddy, it was sub zero weather, he had a jetboil and I had my pocket rocket. The pocket rocket took much less time to get going and less time (probably half) to get the water boiling.
A couple of downsides are that it is tippy, I have to make a level spot and I also have to use my pack as a wind guard but only in a heavy wind.
It is loud at full boar, they don't call it a rocket for nothing!
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Post by: StoneTrees on August 27, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
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White gas (actually Coleman Stove Fuel, which is naptha, or generic "camp stove fuel" from other labels, which is basically the same, and this is NOT unleaded auto gas) -
cheaper, no cold weather problems, no questions of disposing or recycling the containers, no problems packing out the exhausted containers, you can fill the fuel bottles with just the amount needed, no worry over whether the fuel can is too close to empty so an extra full can is needed, higher heat output ...
but - special procedure (specifically priming) needed to light, vast majority of people overprime (indicated by priming flame more than 3 or 4 inches above the burner, also carbons up the fuel feed lines rapidly), requires pumping occasionally to keep pressure up (except a few heat-pressurized stoves which are rare these days), stoves need frequent cleaning, fuel stinks up everything when leaking in pack plus contaminates food the spilled fuel comes in contact with (kerosene is worse than white gas), if spilled fuel is ignited by accident fire is just made worse by putting water on it, stove+pump+fuel bottle is generally heavier than compressed gas stoves ...
Compressed gas (usually refers to canisters with butane and/or isobutane with a small amount of propane) -
easy to light (either just a match or the included piezo lighter), extremely light (as little as 2 ounces plus the canister of fuel, which means less than most white gas stoves including the pump), very compact (whole stove plus a small canister will fit inside a small cookpot), clean burning (no cleaning unless you spill the soup), no fuel spills (leaks just evaporate and blow away - a hazard for ignition if you violate guidelines and cook in your tent, of course, but same applies to liquid fuels), no lingering odors ...
BUT - hard to tell how much fuel is left in the container (you always have to have an extra full canister with you, even on a short weekend trip, unless you like eating dry noodles - with white gas, you just pour the needed amount into the fuel bottle before starting the trip), more expensive per unit heat output (especially in the smallest canisters, which can be up to 10x as much as white gas for equivalent heating), you must carry empty canisters out, you cannot just toss the empty in the regular trash (explosion hazard) but few communities have a recycling program (you can punch a hole in the canister and vent it for several days, then crush it for smaller volume to pack out), serious cold-weather problems (the canisters lose pressure, with many butane canisters losing all pressure below freezing temperatures - there are ways around this, which have been discussed several times in Trailspace, but they are somewhat complex and require extra effort) ...
Food for thought if you're interested in other options.
Post by: yakimanoob on August 27, 2018, 03:52:20 PM
That said, MSR makes awesome gear so you can't go wrong there either.
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 28, 2018, 07:40:08 AM
I'm blown away at how many people haven't had issues with their jet boils. Maybe Im a bit more rough on my stoves :chuckle:Mine rattles around in my truckbed box all year and never a problem. Maybe you had an early model lemon? But I imagine the striker has a limited few hundred start lifespan.
Post by: Highhuntin on August 28, 2018, 07:49:42 AM
I would second HighHuntin above. That little unit for a few bucks and a small bottle of gas is all ive been running for everything from day hunts to several days out for a few years. never had an issue and self strikes, never had issue with striker. Buy a GSI soloist cup and the whole thing nests together, at least half the size of jet boil or styker and a fraction of cost. I carry an extra collapsable cup as well if im going to be doing coffee and soup.
What cup are you using? the gray one with orange handle? I picked up a gsi bugaboo? I think.. I was testing it out and found there is some sort of coating that came off of it.. so ill probably be sticking with my trusty old enamel cup unless I can find something lighter and better soon.. a small bottle of gas fits right inside of it and I can even put the stove on top off it all.
Post by: sjhgraysage on August 28, 2018, 08:41:03 AM
Post by: Highhuntin on August 28, 2018, 10:05:07 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on August 28, 2018, 10:45:58 AM
But I imagine the striker has a limited few hundred start lifespan.If so, I'm way overdue for a failure :chuckle:
Post by: Duckhunter14 on August 28, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
I'm blown away at how many people haven't had issues with their jet boils. Maybe Im a bit more rough on my stoves :chuckle:
If your striker is not igniting but still creating spark, try adjusting the distance the striker is from the surface. Mine wasn't working (still sparking, but wouldn't ignite) it must have been bumped (apparently I'm hard on my gear too) and it was really close to the grating. I took a knife and moved it a little farther away and boom. Worked great. Still carry an emergency lighter just in case. But it was a simple fix. Hopefully yours is the same and its not broken.
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Post by: Highhuntin on August 28, 2018, 01:42:23 PM
No love for twig and/or alcohol stoves?
I have made a few of the beer can alcohol stoves and they work great and are a fun project! boil water fast enough for me but just a bit to unsafe in the woods for my liking.. I actually got mine out a few days ago while testing some things and boiled some water for fun lol
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 28, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
then I've had 3 lemons......in a row :chuckle: I was on the every other year plan :chuckle:I'm blown away at how many people haven't had issues with their jet boils. Maybe Im a bit more rough on my stoves :chuckle:Mine rattles around in my truckbed box all year and never a problem. Maybe you had an early model lemon? But I imagine the striker has a limited few hundred start lifespan.
Post by: MtnMuley on August 28, 2018, 07:35:51 PM