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Offline 300rum

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2018, 09:13:27 AM »
I'm not getting rid of my Pocket Rocket any time soon, it is fast, sips fuel, and most importantly light weight.  I have them in the packs for all the family. 

A couple of years ago I went to Montana with a buddy, it was sub zero weather, he had a jetboil and I had my pocket rocket.  The pocket rocket took much less time to get going and less time (probably half) to get the water boiling.

A couple of downsides are that it is tippy, I have to make a level spot and I also have to use my pack as a wind guard but only in a heavy wind.

It is loud at full boar, they don't call it a rocket for nothing!     

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2018, 09:14:39 AM »
I think my Jetboil Zip is 5+? years old? Never had any issues with it.
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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2018, 09:33:01 AM »
Jetboil mini mo, going on 4 yrs now, not an issue one.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2018, 12:34:41 PM »
I have had my Jetboil zip for 5 years and no problems, igniter still works and it heats up water quick!  Also a great hand warmer in the late hunt when heating up lunch. 

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2018, 01:27:14 PM »
I went through some research on stoves a number of years back and came out on the side of the MSR Whisperlite Stove.  This guy summarizes those pros and cons pretty well in the second review on the linked webpage here:

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White gas (actually Coleman Stove Fuel, which is naptha, or generic "camp stove fuel" from other labels, which is basically the same, and this is NOT unleaded auto gas) -
cheaper, no cold weather problems, no questions of disposing or recycling the containers, no problems packing out the exhausted containers, you can fill the fuel bottles with just the amount needed, no worry over whether the fuel can is too close to empty so an extra full can is needed, higher heat output ...
but - special procedure (specifically priming) needed to light, vast majority of people overprime (indicated by priming flame more than 3 or 4 inches above the burner, also carbons up the fuel feed lines rapidly), requires pumping occasionally to keep pressure up (except a few heat-pressurized stoves which are rare these days), stoves need frequent cleaning, fuel stinks up everything when leaking in pack plus contaminates food the spilled fuel comes in contact with (kerosene is worse than white gas), if spilled fuel is ignited by accident fire is just made worse by putting water on it, stove+pump+fuel bottle is generally heavier than compressed gas stoves ...

Compressed gas (usually refers to canisters with butane and/or isobutane with a small amount of propane) -
easy to light (either just a match or the included piezo lighter), extremely light (as little as 2 ounces plus the canister of fuel, which means less than most white gas stoves including the pump), very compact (whole stove plus a small canister will fit inside a small cookpot), clean burning (no cleaning unless you spill the soup), no fuel spills (leaks just evaporate and blow away - a hazard for ignition if you violate guidelines and cook in your tent, of course, but same applies to liquid fuels), no lingering odors ...
BUT - hard to tell how much fuel is left in the container (you always have to have an extra full canister with you, even on a short weekend trip, unless you like eating dry noodles - with white gas, you just pour the needed amount into the fuel bottle before starting the trip), more expensive per unit heat output (especially in the smallest canisters, which can be up to 10x as much as white gas for equivalent heating), you must carry empty canisters out, you cannot just toss the empty in the regular trash (explosion hazard) but few communities have a recycling program (you can punch a hole in the canister and vent it for several days, then crush it for smaller volume to pack out), serious cold-weather problems (the canisters lose pressure, with many butane canisters losing all pressure below freezing temperatures - there are ways around this, which have been discussed several times in Trailspace, but they are somewhat complex and require extra effort) ...

Food for thought if you're interested in other options.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2018, 03:52:20 PM »
I've had my jetboil Sol for about 6 years now and it's been flawless.  I even accidentally burned up the pot, half-melted the pot/burner attachment but trimmed it with my knife and decided to keep it.  Had to get a new pot, but I still have the original burner and the striker has never been anything but immediate.   :twocents:

That said, MSR makes awesome gear so you can't go wrong there either. 
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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2018, 04:07:16 PM »
My jetboil has been running strong for at least ten years now. I don’t even know the model of it. I’d say definitlaly only mild to moderate use, but working and lighting flawlessly, just as it had new.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2018, 08:03:39 PM »
I'm blown away at how many people haven't had issues with their jet boils.  Maybe Im a bit more rough on my stoves  :chuckle:
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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 08:07:16 PM »
I pulled the trigger on a Jetboil Zip today. I did checkout the MSRs, but for $100 more, I just couldn't do it.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 11:09:04 PM »
I would second HighHuntin above.  That little unit for a few bucks and a small bottle of gas is all ive been running for everything from day hunts to several days out for a few years.  never had an issue and self strikes, never had issue with striker.  Buy a GSI soloist cup and the whole thing nests together, at least half the size of jet boil or styker and a fraction of cost.  I carry an extra collapsable cup as well if im going to be doing coffee and soup.
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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2018, 06:47:17 AM »
I liked the Jetboil, nice set up, connecting stove to pot, easy to carry, but I had trouble with the control knob being finicky; especially if I was turning the heat down, flame often went out easily. I love the MSR Pocket Rocket.  I usually put a foil baffle around bottom if its windy. I still have the MSR Whisper Lite, used for > 10 years, and works great. I don't like carrying the white gas bottle, but other than that, it works great and heats water fast.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2018, 07:34:34 AM »
I just ordered a camp chef Stryker that's in the mail. It's similar to jetboil but found it new on sale at Amazon for $30. I figured it's a small investment to try out this type of cook system. I've lost a couple of meals over the years with a pot falling of the burner so the connected system sounds pretty good. Worst case, it ends up as a tailgater.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2018, 07:40:08 AM »
I'm blown away at how many people haven't had issues with their jet boils.  Maybe Im a bit more rough on my stoves  :chuckle:
Mine rattles around in my truckbed box all year and never a problem.  Maybe you had an early model lemon?  But I imagine the striker has a limited few hundred start lifespan.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2018, 07:49:42 AM »
I would second HighHuntin above.  That little unit for a few bucks and a small bottle of gas is all ive been running for everything from day hunts to several days out for a few years.  never had an issue and self strikes, never had issue with striker.  Buy a GSI soloist cup and the whole thing nests together, at least half the size of jet boil or styker and a fraction of cost.  I carry an extra collapsable cup as well if im going to be doing coffee and soup.

What cup are you using? the gray one with orange handle? I picked up a gsi bugaboo? I think.. I  was testing it out and found there is some sort of coating that came off of it.. so ill probably be sticking with my trusty old enamel cup unless I can find something lighter and better soon.. a small bottle of gas fits right inside of it and I can even put the stove on top off it all.

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Re: Cook stove?
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2018, 08:41:03 AM »
I got a "pocket rocket" and then I bought some aluminum roof flashing at Lowes. Cut a piece about 20 inches or so long and rolled it up and taped it with a piece of electrical tape. I use this for a wind screen for the stove if its windy. It is really light and rolled up doesn't take up space plus you can stuff small stuff inside it if needed. I just got back from a 50 - 60 mile back pack trip with my son in the Bob Marshall in MT and I used both the stove and the wind screen several times.

 


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