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Title: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Toad on August 25, 2018, 02:24:32 AM
anyone have any updated info on the road closures in the rimrock? im starting to get worried the access will be non existant for my bull tag. :'(
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: cryder on August 25, 2018, 07:49:50 AM
Welcome to rimrock hunting , where they find the heard , and start closeing roads , two miles from the fire and ten yards from the elk , been going there for 30 years and this is everything I'm expecting , in fact I met with some guys last week and before I sat down I yelled fire !!! Hey buddy that road is closed !! I did get some lafs but I'm not lafffffffing dangit !!!
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 25, 2018, 08:05:59 AM
 :yeah: That's all the explanation I need. :chuckle:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Naches Sportsman on August 25, 2018, 08:24:52 AM
anyone have any updated info on the road closures in the rimrock? im starting to get worried the access will be non existant for my bull tag. :'(

It'll be non existent. Wilderness will be closed for sure and the whole county road will be closed as long as there's a team there from at least the peninsula back. Tons of ways around the closure and I'm sure people already figured them out.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: 92xj on August 25, 2018, 08:27:17 AM
Kiss any chance of opening up any of the closed areas or even moving the closed boundary lines closer to the fire. Some poeple went into the closed area and starting shooting their rifles in the directions of crews working the fire. Crews were evacuated. That little stunt by some amazing individuals, I would assume, would make the closure officials not even consider opening anything up until all firefighters are out of the woods.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on August 25, 2018, 08:51:00 AM
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Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: bracer40 on August 25, 2018, 09:17:55 AM
anyone have any updated info on the road closures in the rimrock? im starting to get worried the access will be non existant for my bull tag. :'(

It'll be non existent. Wilderness will be closed for sure and the whole county road will be closed as long as there's a team there from at least the peninsula back. Tons of ways around the closure and I'm sure people already figured them out.
:yeah:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on August 25, 2018, 12:09:12 PM
just read a report that the two idiots shooting in the direction of the fire fighters were hunting and shooting at a bear that doesn't look to good on the rest of us the follow the closures hopefully is doesn't effect them considering opening up some more area for us with bull tags to hunt.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: 92xj on August 25, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
just read a report that the two idiots shooting in the direction of the fire fighters were hunting and shooting at a bear that doesn't look to good on the rest of us the follow the closures hopefully is doesn't effect them considering opening up some more area for us with bull tags to hunt.

Did the report say where they were?
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: HoofsandWings on August 25, 2018, 12:26:47 PM
As of today
Status
Status Current Situation on the Miriam Fire: The Miriam Fire remains a full suppression fire. Yesterday morning, a spot of heat was identified on infra-red map from the previous night’s detection flight. The spot was outside of the containment lines east of Tieton Meadows and on the east side of the Tieton River. The smoke was too dense for the air attack plane to leave Yakima to investigate therefore firefighters hiked into the area to verify the spot. Firefighters verified a 3 ½ acre burned area. Helicopters were called to the location and began to drop buckets of water to keep the spot fire in check. In other areas of the fire, intense heat remains in both Miriam and Hell Creeks, on the ridge below Shoe Lake, and along Tieton Meadows. These locations are burning within the containment lines and closely monitored. Firefighters continued to monitor the containment line extended from Forest Road (FR) 1207 to Tieton Meadows searching for additional spot fires. The FR 1207 road/containment line is in patrol/mop up stage. Vegetative debris generated from preparing 1204 as contingency lines is on-going. The chipping activity is ongoing along FR 1200-540. Structure protection group has completed removing firefighting equipment from the organizational camps. A large contingent of firefighters are prepared to defend the White Ski Pass lodges if the fire reaches the area. Foldable tanks of water and hoses with sprinklers have been laid out and prepared along High Camp Lodge. Fire managers have a high confidence these areas are secure. Firefighters are remaining vigilant and ready to respond to any increased fire threats and new fire starts. Current Situation on the Clear Fork Fire: A low intensity ground fire continues to spread gradually due to the rolling of burning debris on steep slopes. This fire will continue to be monitored closely with aerial resources. Weather and Fire Behavior: A dry, cold front moved through the area last night bringing cooler temperatures and gusty winds. Temperatures are forecasted for 65-70 degrees with relative humidity of 40-45%. West/northwest winds of 8-12 mph and gusts to 18 mph are expected. Dry cold fronts are a watch-out situation for firefighters with dry air and gusty winds. Fire activity in open timber will be low with pockets of moderate activity. Burning will be intense in areas of dense, large diameter fuels. Evacuations: Evacuation levels remain the same. The need for these levels are evaluated daily. Please see the Yakima County Office of Emergency Management Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/yakimacountyoemfor a full description.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on August 25, 2018, 12:40:56 PM
just read a report that the two idiots shooting in the direction of the fire fighters were hunting and shooting at a bear that doesn't look to good on the rest of us the follow the closures hopefully is doesn't effect them considering opening up some more area for us with bull tags to hunt.

Did the report say where they were?


it didnt say exactly where the were but said that state patrol located them and told them to get the bear and leave the area so one would guess if they were told they need to leave the were in a closed section and I dont see how they could be visible to the fire fighters and not be in a closed area  :dunno:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: HoofsandWings on August 25, 2018, 01:04:21 PM
fire perimeter
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on August 25, 2018, 10:13:00 PM
Well as long as it’s open for the later half of the hunt I’m good :tup:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: 92xj on August 26, 2018, 07:06:41 AM
just read a report that the two idiots shooting in the direction of the fire fighters were hunting and shooting at a bear that doesn't look to good on the rest of us the follow the closures hopefully is doesn't effect them considering opening up some more area for us with bull tags to hunt.

Did the report say where they were?


it didnt say exactly where the were but said that state patrol located them and told them to get the bear and leave the area so one would guess if they were told they need to leave the were in a closed section and I dont see how they could be visible to the fire fighters and not be in a closed area  :dunno:
. With the amount of people, road closed signs and manned check points, I would think there is no way for the guys to get in the closed area from hwy12 rimrock lake side without doing some shady driving. But then again I don't see two dudes hiking in from the south up and over the goat rocks and not hiking in from the open trail around the clear fork fire to go in the closed area to hunt a bear.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Naches Sportsman on September 03, 2018, 11:13:43 PM
Thought I'd bump this up. I heard the wildcat bridge project will start on Sept 10th so the county road will be the detour. If imagine some closures being reduced as fire is now a type 4 incident (no teams attached). It'll be awfully hard to keep people out when the county road becomes the detour.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: 92xj on September 04, 2018, 01:21:43 PM
Thought I'd bump this up. I heard the wildcat bridge project will start on Sept 10th so the county road will be the detour. If imagine some closures being reduced as fire is now a type 4 incident (no teams attached). It'll be awfully hard to keep people out when the county road becomes the detour.

I have just been told the construction project is delayed because of the International Union of Operating Engineers local 302 strike, not because of the fire and closure of the tieton road. As of right now there is no known end for the strike, therefore no operators to start work and no push for the tieton road to be opened because of construction and bypass/detour needs. Even if the strike ends today, contractor still needs to meet with wsdot to determine a schedule and labor, equipment and material resources.
Based on this I highly doubt we will see work on the bridge start on the 10th.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on September 05, 2018, 04:51:03 PM
just got a email from wdfw saying I could give the tag back and they will restore points for the rimrock hunt. so it's not looking good for roads to open if they are offering that
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 05, 2018, 05:19:31 PM
That’s not a good sign!
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: flyguide on September 05, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
I have the archery tag too and have been calling every number I can get a hold of for 2 weeks and yes its frustrating but I get it.  They need to get the road fixed, they need to keep traffic off the 1000 while they are working.  It sounds like the fire prompted the construction, now they are committed to it.  Without certainty on the road issues I think at this point I'm turning my permit back in.  I had quite a few points going into this one and would love to have a bit more time to make a good plan rather than scramble around with the rest of y'all.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 06, 2018, 01:05:00 PM
Sucks to have to turn in a permit but it’s the right move at this point
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on September 06, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
they are not even working on the 1000 road anymore I talked to the contractor that was working on it and he said they are waiting on a engineering change so it's on hold. no reason they couldn't open the 1000 road to the gate.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: maxwell on September 07, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
So, is it open or not???
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Learmedic on September 07, 2018, 06:16:26 PM
Reduced the closure area today. Still closed on the west side. See link for map
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/WAOWF/2018-07-31-1155-Miriam/picts/2018_09_07-19.14.24.289-CDT.pdf
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 07, 2018, 06:45:24 PM
I like seeing that  :tup:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Learmedic on September 08, 2018, 08:08:44 AM
Latest IR map, taken last night
https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/pacific_nw/2018_Incidents_Washington/2018_Miriam_WAOWF_000433/IR/20180908/20180908_Miriam_11X17_Ortho.pdf
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on September 09, 2018, 08:03:13 AM
District Ranger told me access will be closed to the wilderness till spring. I know how to get around up there, so if I can help let me know. Its never fun to eat a Bull tag.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 09, 2018, 12:51:18 PM
I had a conversation with three bulls this morning at rimrock  :tup:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: westside Elkhunter on September 09, 2018, 01:14:09 PM
I had a conversation with three bulls this morning at rimrock  :tup:
That's awesome 👍

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Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 09, 2018, 01:47:39 PM
I had a conversation with three bulls this morning at rimrock  :tup:
That's awesome 👍

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It would have been even better if I had a bull tag! But yes awesome non the less
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Grit dog on September 09, 2018, 02:42:50 PM
US12 will now be closed Aug 21 for 2-1/2 weeks for the Wildcat Creek Bridge replacement.
All 12 traffic will be detoured onto the Tieton River Rd during the closure.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Cougartail on September 09, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
US12 will now be closed Aug 21 for 2-1/2 weeks for the Wildcat Creek Bridge replacement.
All 12 traffic will be detoured onto the Tieton River Rd during the closure.

I heard it was delayed until next year possibly due to the fire closure ?
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on September 12, 2018, 06:06:05 PM
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Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: elkrack on September 12, 2018, 06:24:46 PM
Sent you a pm
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 12, 2018, 06:51:51 PM
Elk numbers in the unit have been down for awhile now.  Was only a 19% success rate for your tag last year.  There were only 32 bulls killed in unit last year combining all of the general and permit seasons. It was one of the worst years I have ever seen and I have been hunting there since the early nineties. I would have to think this year must be a little better but your gonna have to work hard.  I'd try up near Louie way Gap or walk up to Conrad meadows but there are usually a lot of guys back there.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: archer86 on September 12, 2018, 07:03:49 PM
there is alot ot camps in conrad meadows guys running around on side by sides and quads
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: jdb on September 12, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
Louie's gap
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Southpole on September 16, 2018, 04:08:04 PM
there is alot ot camps in conrad meadows guys running around on side by sides and quads
Rode my bike to the washout Saturday to help scout for a quality elk rifle permit a friend has and noticed ALOT of fresh orv/atv tracks on both sides. Pretty quiet in there for animals. Haven’t seen any dead elk in anyone’s camps or pickups either. Never been to the Rimrock, I can see why they call it that.
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Southpole on September 16, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
Oh, and the Rimrock, by far, has the biggest chipmunks I’ve ever seen  :yike:
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 16, 2018, 04:17:44 PM
Oh, and the Rimrock, by far, has the biggest chipmunks I’ve ever seen  :yike:

Gees Southpole you should now those are shape shifting biggies.😉
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Southpole on September 16, 2018, 06:26:02 PM
Oh, and the Rimrock, by far, has the biggest chipmunks I’ve ever seen  :yike:

Gees Southpole you should now those are shape shifting biggies.😉
Aaaahhh, good point grasshopper...
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: Patarero on September 17, 2018, 10:15:07 AM
I am at a loss I have traveled I dont even know how many miles. I went from the 1000 road closure all the way up to suprise lake I seen some bulls up there but nothing I wanted to pack out and for that matter know i could get out of there and not waste meat as much as i would like a decent bull I dont want to waste any meat so I switched to hunt down off the 1000 road near minnie meadows and have not seen a elk I have put a tone of time in scouting. almost wishing I would have sent the tag back but if anyone would offer some suggestions I am more then willing to take the advise. just came back home for a day to take a shower been out of a pack in camp since friday

pm'ed you
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: rbros on October 18, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
Received an email today saying the the rifle guys could turn their permits in as well.  Anyone have any luck during archery or muzzy?
Title: Re: fire in the rimrock
Post by: kirkl on October 26, 2018, 01:55:45 PM
Received an email today saying the the rifle guys could turn their permits in as well.  Anyone have any luck during archery or muzzy?
A horse back lady at work said the 1000 road is open now just FYI
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