Post by: jrebel on September 09, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
Both me and my hunting partner thought the bear smelled funky from the first contact. I didn't think anything of it because it was a bear. The funk was more pronounced as we skinned it. Long story short.....today I went to cut both bear up. My sons bear was fantastic. My bear was so funky it would have knocked a buzzard off a crap pile. We found a big tumor in one of the arm pits to. Needless to say this bear is not getting eaten by me. 4 bear shot by my family and only funky one so far.
I am positive this was not a handling problem. The bear was cold, dry and cleaned quickly.
Anyone else ever shot a funky bear?
jrebel
Post by: h20hunter on September 09, 2018, 07:27:42 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 09, 2018, 07:33:45 PM
Out of the half dozen bears I’ve popped, the tastiest factors in order were handling, diet, age
Post by: hunter399 on September 09, 2018, 07:41:28 PM
But as bear populations peak there are some bears that are just unhealthy.As they all compete for food .Some bears are gonna eat anything to make ends meet .Making them stink something nasty .
I wouldn't eat it myself.
Post by: Doublelunger on September 09, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 09, 2018, 08:21:43 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 09, 2018, 08:26:21 PM
Post by: jasnt on September 09, 2018, 08:37:27 PM
Post by: jrebel on September 09, 2018, 08:43:05 PM
Did you dissect the tumor?
I cut it in half and it was solid. It was cresent shaped 1/2 diameter (tubular) and 2-2.5" long. Consistency was like an unriped banana. White inside. Very weird.
Post by: hollymaster on September 09, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
Post by: jrebel on September 09, 2018, 08:53:51 PM
Post by: Tiger1358 on September 11, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Your bear already had some problems. It sucks putting so much time and effort into it and finding that out late, but it's hunting, you don't know till you kill it.
Post by: birddogdad on September 11, 2018, 10:29:55 AM
Post by: lamrith on September 11, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
So me and my son both got bear this week. I shot mine Friday night (200-250lbs), gutted within 10 minutes of shot.....skinnned a half hour later. I shot it in the evening 6 pm ish as the storm was rolling in; temps mid 70's. Temps where we were camped were getting down to the low to mid 40's at night. We hung it over night and then took it to the cooler in the morning.Yes,
Both me and my hunting partner thought the bear smelled funky from the first contact. I didn't think anything of it because it was a bear. The funk was more pronounced as we skinned it. Long story short.....today I went to cut both bear up. My sons bear was fantastic. My bear was so funky it would have knocked a buzzard off a crap pile. We found a big tumor in one of the arm pits to. Needless to say this bear is not getting eaten by me. 4 bear shot by my family and only funky one so far.
I am positive this was not a handling problem. The bear was cold, dry and cleaned quickly.
Anyone else ever shot a funky bear?
jrebel
My bear last year was that way, it smelled off as soon as I was skinning it, to the point I did not bring the meat out of the field. I froze the skull and took it to a local processor to freeze while I finished the elk hunt. Kept it frozen till I handed it to the Taxi for the Euro.
Taxi called me the night I dropped it off, wanted to make sure I did not keep or eat any of the meat. Said it was the most odd smell he has ever smelled in all his years of Taxi. Was not spoiled meat/poor handling smell, but just wrong. MY bear looked healthy, though thin summer coat that turned out not worth doing anything with.
Post by: Bushcraft on September 11, 2018, 10:53:44 AM
I remembered reading somewhere of people test-cooking bear in the field before deciding whether or not it was worth bringing home. So, I cut a fillet out of the backstrap and cooked it on the spot with some olive oil, salt and pepper.
Holy crap...disgusting! I could not finish the first bite. :puke:
I hauled out the head and hide but left the meat for scavengers.
Every bear since has been very good. The best one tasted like it had been marinating in alpine blueberries.
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 11, 2018, 11:04:21 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 12, 2018, 08:31:53 PM
Post by: mountainman on September 12, 2018, 10:11:42 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 19, 2018, 08:36:21 AM
Post by: cb1989 on September 19, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
Unless really cold, sour can happen quickly if you don't get it off the bone quick enough..in as little as an hour or less..they hold heat like nothing else
Do you always bone out bears in the field? I see some guys take bone in hams, but seems like if anythings going to hold heat next to the bone its the hams. Especially if you've got a few hour pack out before you can get it cooled off.
Post by: mountainman on September 19, 2018, 09:19:13 AM
AlwaysUnless really cold, sour can happen quickly if you don't get it off the bone quick enough..in as little as an hour or less..they hold heat like nothing else
Do you always bone out bears in the field? I see some guys take bone in hams, but seems like if anythings going to hold heat next to the bone its the hams. Especially if you've got a few hour pack out before you can get it cooled off.
Post by: boneaddict on September 19, 2018, 10:11:05 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 19, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
Post by: jrebel on September 20, 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Post by: mountainman on September 20, 2018, 07:31:30 PM
Love cooking up some berry fed bearchops!
Salmon eaters stink the kitchen to high heaven, if you can stand to cook it😝
Post by: tgomez on September 22, 2018, 03:28:47 PM
Post by: csaaphill on September 23, 2018, 07:16:38 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on September 27, 2018, 09:39:07 AM
Post by: Bushcraft on September 27, 2018, 01:08:17 PM
I'm curious in wa state do you have to take the meat ?
No. They are classified as a furbearer.
Post by: mountainman on September 27, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
Listed big game. Keep the meatI'm curious in wa state do you have to take the meat ?
No. They are classified as a furbearer.
Post by: bigtex on September 27, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
Incorrect.I'm curious in wa state do you have to take the meat ?No. They are classified as a furbearer.
Wildlife of any classification cannot be wasted. It's come up on this site several times that shooting a coyote and letting it lay is wastage. Now will an officer cite you, who knows. But by the law, yes it is wastage.
Post by: lamrith on September 27, 2018, 01:45:24 PM
BigTex - What is the ruling/view on that if the meat is obviously bad upon getting to the down animal? Case in point my ID bear last year. We got on it as soon as possible, but it was completely obvious that the meat was no good and not something safe to consume?Incorrect.I'm curious in wa state do you have to take the meat ?No. They are classified as a furbearer.
Wildlife of any classification cannot be wasted. It's come up on this site several times that shooting a coyote and letting it lay is wastage. Now will an officer cite you, who knows. But by the law, yes it is wastage.
I can appreciate not "wasting" the animal, but if the meat is not fit for consumption are we expected to still break it down and haul it out of the field only to throw it away? Just seems an even bigger waste of the resource. I would think it better for the ecosystem to take what is usable and leave the rest so that scavengers, etc can all get their piece of the pie as it were...
Post by: csaaphill on October 02, 2018, 01:07:26 AM
A tumor :yike:
Post by: 7t9cobra on October 11, 2018, 06:24:18 PM
"You may not allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be wasted recklessly.
You must make a reasonable attempt to remove and use all edible meat from the carcass of harvested game fish, game birds, and game animals."
If the meat is not edible, it is not wasting. I read somewhere that certain animals were exempt from the waste laws, but I'll be damned if I can find it. On the list I recall bobcat, coyote and cougar being on the list of animals that were not required to take the meat. According to what I read in the game regs it doesn't mention that though.
Post by: bigtex on November 06, 2018, 01:19:03 PM
I read somewhere that certain animals were exempt from the waste laws, but I'll be damned if I can find it. On the list I recall bobcat, coyote and cougar being on the list of animals that were not required to take the meat. According to what I read in the game regs it doesn't mention that though.You can't find it because it's not true. Illegal to waste any fish or wildlife, doesn't matter if it's a deer, carp, or coyote.
Post by: Eric M on November 06, 2018, 01:26:38 PM
According to this, the exception is cougar. http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010I read somewhere that certain animals were exempt from the waste laws, but I'll be damned if I can find it. On the list I recall bobcat, coyote and cougar being on the list of animals that were not required to take the meat. According to what I read in the game regs it doesn't mention that though.You can't find it because it's not true. Illegal to waste any fish or wildlife, doesn't matter if it's a deer, carp, or coyote.
68) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.
Post by: bigtex on November 06, 2018, 01:53:29 PM
If you look deeper you'll see the actual enforcement laws have no exceptions. There's actually several wastage laws in WA.According to this, the exception is cougar. http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010I read somewhere that certain animals were exempt from the waste laws, but I'll be damned if I can find it. On the list I recall bobcat, coyote and cougar being on the list of animals that were not required to take the meat. According to what I read in the game regs it doesn't mention that though.You can't find it because it's not true. Illegal to waste any fish or wildlife, doesn't matter if it's a deer, carp, or coyote.
68) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.
The infractions (tickets):
RCW 77.15.160(1)
(g) Wasting fish or shellfish: Killing, taking, or possessing fish or shellfish having a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars and allowing the fish or shellfish to be wasted. (Notice it's just fish, not broken down into food fish, game fish, etc.)
RCW 77.15.160(2)
(c) Wasting wildlife: Killing, taking, or possessing wildlife that is not classified as big game and has a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars, and allowing the wildlife to be wasted. (Notice it's wildlife, not broken down to birds, game animals, furbearers, etc.)
The crime (gross misdemeanor):
RCW 77.15.170
(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife if the person:
(a) Takes or possesses wildlife classified as food fish, game fish, shellfish, or game birds having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more, or wildlife classified as big game; and
(b) Recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
[/(The big criminal statute does break it down to certain classifications, unlike the infractions)i]
Post by: Eric M on November 06, 2018, 01:59:19 PM
Thanks for clarifying that. It's a bit confusing. (To my pea brain)If you look deeper you'll see the actual enforcement laws have no exceptions. There's actually several wastage laws in WA.According to this, the exception is cougar. http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010I read somewhere that certain animals were exempt from the waste laws, but I'll be damned if I can find it. On the list I recall bobcat, coyote and cougar being on the list of animals that were not required to take the meat. According to what I read in the game regs it doesn't mention that though.You can't find it because it's not true. Illegal to waste any fish or wildlife, doesn't matter if it's a deer, carp, or coyote.
68) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.
The infractions (tickets):
RCW 77.15.160(1)
(g) Wasting fish or shellfish: Killing, taking, or possessing fish or shellfish having a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars and allowing the fish or shellfish to be wasted. (Notice it's just fish, not broken down into food fish, game fish, etc.)
RCW 77.15.160(2)
(c) Wasting wildlife: Killing, taking, or possessing wildlife that is not classified as big game and has a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars, and allowing the wildlife to be wasted. (Notice it's wildlife, not broken down to birds, game animals, furbearers, etc.)
The crime (gross misdemeanor):
RCW 77.15.170
(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife if the person:
(a) Takes or possesses wildlife classified as food fish, game fish, shellfish, or game birds having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more, or wildlife classified as big game; and
(b) Recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
[/(The big criminal statute does break it down to certain classifications, unlike the infractions)i]
Post by: Stein on November 06, 2018, 02:30:12 PM
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"To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.
It clearly doesn't apply to all "wildlife."
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Post by: Rob on November 06, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Did you dissect the tumor?
I cut it in half and it was solid. It was cresent shaped 1/2 diameter (tubular) and 2-2.5" long. Consistency was like an unriped banana. White inside. Very weird.
Cyst maybe?
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on November 06, 2018, 03:19:51 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on November 09, 2018, 05:29:21 PM
Post by: Angry Perch on November 10, 2018, 07:35:54 AM
I quit eating even healthy ones, between my dad and I we have killed 4 but I will not eat them anymore after seeing probably 80-90 percent have worms in the meat. Scared of Trich :yike:
All you have to do is cook it.