Post by: IBspoiled on September 21, 2018, 11:52:53 AM
Post by: Buckmark on September 21, 2018, 12:03:48 PM
The guy with the blue bandanna and face paint looks like a teenage mutant ninja turtle :chuckle:
Post by: slowhand on September 21, 2018, 12:15:31 PM
I am considering setting up my first Deer feeder. I would like to set a camera on that. But again back in the thick stuff.
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on September 21, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Post by: Sandberm on September 21, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on September 21, 2018, 12:38:22 PM
They'll ruin that area just like they ruined part of the bumping unit!
Post by: cougforester on September 21, 2018, 12:44:03 PM
i feel like ive seen that guy in the glasses before..
17:31...
Post by: dvmagernbk on September 21, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
If that picture (just like the first green guy one the OP posted) doesn't exist, it is unfair inference and speculation. If you have the pic's or vids of them doing it, post it publicly. Otherwise, it's just guys on public land in front of your game cam on public land and an internet post.
Post by: Buckmark on September 21, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
Post by: IBspoiled on September 21, 2018, 01:07:54 PM
I only see the *censored* guys standing in front of a game cam. That is substantially different from the green face-painted person right in the face of another cam from another location. I think the OP needs to post a pic of the *censored* guys ACTUALLY checking his game cam.
If that picture (just like the first green guy one the OP posted) doesn't exist, it is unfair inference and speculation. If you have the pic's or vids of them doing it, post it publicly. Otherwise, it's just guys on public land in front of your game cam on public land and an internet post.
Well since I have the video's and know that they are doing this it isn't speculation and they also know that they are doing this. Ask them if they think it's ok to check other hunters sd cards. Maybe we should hear from them.
Post by: dvmagernbk on September 21, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 21, 2018, 01:18:54 PM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on September 21, 2018, 01:31:26 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 21, 2018, 01:32:48 PM
:yeah:I only see the *censored* guys standing in front of a game cam. That is substantially different from the green face-painted person right in the face of another cam from another location. I think the OP needs to post a pic of the *censored* guys ACTUALLY checking his game cam.
If that picture (just like the first green guy one the OP posted) doesn't exist, it is unfair inference and speculation. If you have the pic's or vids of them doing it, post it publicly. Otherwise, it's just guys on public land in front of your game cam on public land and an internet post.
Well since I have the video's and know that they are doing this it isn't speculation and they also know that they are doing this. Ask them if they think it's ok to check other hunters sd cards. Maybe we should hear from them.
Post by: Woodchuck on September 21, 2018, 01:50:08 PM
Just punching in here.:yeah: Let's see the proof.
Post by: Alchase on September 21, 2018, 01:57:51 PM
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 02:09:46 PM
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
I only see the *censored* guys standing in front of a game cam. That is substantially different from the green face-painted person right in the face of another cam from another location. I think the OP needs to post a pic of the *censored* guys ACTUALLY checking his game cam.
If that picture (just like the first green guy one the OP posted) doesn't exist, it is unfair inference and speculation. If you have the pic's or vids of them doing it, post it publicly. Otherwise, it's just guys on public land in front of your game cam on public land and an internet post.
I did what I was accused of.
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
Post by: Alchase on September 21, 2018, 02:15:32 PM
I respect that.
Post by: h20hunter on September 21, 2018, 02:16:57 PM
Well......well done bucking up, apologizing and clearing the air.
And well said, thanks for chiming in.
Post by: Elkcollector82 on September 21, 2018, 02:17:27 PM
This is a new feeling for me, I didn't think I'd ever have to defend myself in the view of the public when it comes to a questioning of my ethics. I consider myself a respectful individual when it comes to the land, the wildlife and the other hunters that occupy the same grounds that I hunt, however this is not a representation of that. What I did was in fact disrespectful to the person who put in the time to set those cameras. When I hiked in a few days before season I went to check a camera I had set and the card has been stolen out of it. That's an awful feeling but somehow that experience caused me to be less considerate as a hunter. My rational was I won't be hurting anything if I leave it the way I found it but in fact I shouldn't have touched it all. I'm going to be honest, until I was put on blast checking these cameras wasn't even in my head as something I felt guilty for. It has been a reality check for me, showing me what I did was wrong. I'm going to learn from this. I want to apologize to IBspoiled for my actions, it won't happen to anyone else. I hope those who have met me know from that experience that I'm a decent guy, and don't wish ill will on anyone else in the woods. It was my decision not that of the others in the picture.
Well you owned up to it.. You even did it publicly. Not an easy thing to do. But you did it. Lesson learned. :tup:
Post by: Woodchuck on September 21, 2018, 02:23:14 PM
Well......shame on you for messing where you shouldn't.:yeah: It means something that you came on here and owned it, well done on that aspect of it.
Well......well done bucking up, apologizing and clearing the air.
And well said, thanks for chiming in.
Post by: IBspoiled on September 21, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
This is a new feeling for me, I didn't think I'd ever have to defend myself in the view of the public when it comes to a questioning of my ethics. I consider myself a respectful individual when it comes to the land, the wildlife and the other hunters that occupy the same grounds that I hunt, however this is not a representation of that. What I did was in fact disrespectful to the person who put in the time to set those cameras. When I hiked in a few days before season I went to check a camera I had set and the card has been stolen out of it. That's an awful feeling but somehow that experience caused me to be less considerate as a hunter. My rational was I won't be hurting anything if I leave it the way I found it but in fact I shouldn't have touched it all. I'm going to be honest, until I was put on blast checking these cameras wasn't even in my head as something I felt guilty for. It has been a reality check for me, showing me what I did was wrong. I'm going to learn from this. I want to apologize to IBspoiled for my actions, it won't happen to anyone else. I hope those who have met me know from that experience that I'm a decent guy, and don't wish ill will on anyone else in the woods. It was my decision not that of the others in the picture.
Thanks for coming on and admitting it. I'm sorry about your sd card as well. I've never had issues in this area until this year and had multiple cams messed with, it is very frustrating. One of my cards wouldn't read and the wife had to figure out how to get into it backways so just know that while you think it isn't hurting anything, it can mess up the formats. I've never touched another camera or anyone elses stuff in the woods, and that's just good ethics to me.
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 02:27:24 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on September 21, 2018, 02:27:56 PM
:yeah:Well......shame on you for messing where you shouldn't.:yeah: It means something that you came on here and owned it, well done on that aspect of it.
Well......well done bucking up, apologizing and clearing the air.
And well said, thanks for chiming in.
Post by: jackelope on September 21, 2018, 02:39:48 PM
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Post by: trophyhunt on September 21, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Post by: slowhand on September 21, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
This was a drama filled Thread.
Props for admitting to it :tup:
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 02:59:34 PM
Villajac29, my first impression is to chew you out for all the times I've had my cameras messed with, it's a frustration only those messed with feel. I really want to cuss you out because someone else has finally been caught when it's so hard to catch them!! :bash: BUT, damn if you didn't get on here and man up. I sure hope you are being honest in your words that you'll never do this again, it took a lot of guts to admit it all, most wouldn't do that. Thank you, I hope this turns out positive, I can only hope at least one other person who messes with other people's cameras sees this and decides it's better to leave it alone. Again, thank you for stepping up and taking it.
I do mean what I said. I hope so too.
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 03:02:04 PM
Setting the record straight, I believe these are the Pacific North Wild guys according to the Facebook. I don’t see any of them in the pics.
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That picture is missing Bobby Petit but those are them, all good guys and it sounds like all stud high buck hunters from the texts I've gotten so far. Sounds like they've got some pretty good stories from their most recent hunt.
Post by: screedler on September 21, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
Y'all got any advice for a newbie on discreet placement of trail cams to prevent theft/sd card molestation? Any brands to avoid?
Good on the fella who came clean. Honesty and integrity should be the values we uphold in hunting right?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 21, 2018, 03:38:33 PM
Post by: slowhand on September 21, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
Your being called out on the "What Lessons Did You Learn This Year?" thread
Post by: trophyhunt on September 21, 2018, 04:22:23 PM
villajac29I was only messing! He's explained himself well enough, I'm sure he will see the humor in it.
Your being called out on the "What Lessons Did You Learn This Year?" thread
Post by: villajac29 on September 21, 2018, 04:26:46 PM
villajac29I was only messing! He's explained himself well enough, I'm sure he will see the humor in it.
Your being called out on the "What Lessons Did You Learn This Year?" thread
I did, I hope you like my response!
Post by: trophyhunt on September 21, 2018, 04:35:50 PM
:tup:villajac29I was only messing! He's explained himself well enough, I'm sure he will see the humor in it.
Your being called out on the "What Lessons Did You Learn This Year?" thread
I did, I hope you like my response!
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on September 23, 2018, 10:30:03 AM
Post by: elkrack on September 23, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
Get a damn lock box! Dont put them on well traveled trails everyone uses. Problem solved. I have never had mine messed with. On the other hand I dont put mine is heavy traffic areas. I hike in and put it on game trails.
:yeah:
I’ve had a couple guys look pretty pissed they were on camera but my box is pretty secure unless they just break the actual camera
Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
i feel like ive seen that guy in the glasses before..
17:31...
How about that muzzle control at the 17:10-17:24 mark! :o
Post by: 3nails on September 23, 2018, 03:15:16 PM
Crossing a creek with the muzzle pointed right at the camera man! :yike:i feel like ive seen that guy in the glasses before..
17:31...
How about that muzzle control at the 17:10-17:24 mark! :o
Post by: elkrack on September 24, 2018, 07:45:39 AM
How about that muzzle control at the 17:10-17:24 mark! :o
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That’s exactly what I was thinking when I watched the video. :o
Post by: Rutnbuxnbulls on September 24, 2018, 08:00:54 AM
Post by: Highhuntin on September 24, 2018, 08:28:16 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 24, 2018, 09:17:55 AM
Get a damn lock box! Dont put them on well traveled trails everyone uses. Problem solved. I have never had mine messed with. On the other hand I dont put mine is heavy traffic areas. I hike in and put it on game trails.problem not solved, this camera of mine was about a mile off a trail in the back country, in a lock box, with a new cable lock. And they broke the cable lock, couldn’t cut the lock on the box so tried to break the box open. I’m not saying lock boxes don’t help, they do, but it doesn’t solve it.
Post by: elkrack on September 25, 2018, 12:53:29 AM
Sad that you have to even put that message on there
Post by: salt n sage90 on September 25, 2018, 07:23:22 AM
Keep in mind this is on private timber land.
Post by: h20hunter on September 25, 2018, 07:34:47 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on September 25, 2018, 07:35:05 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 25, 2018, 07:37:21 AM
What do you do if you find a camera placed on your own private land, behind a gate? I friend of mine found one on his logging property where we have a few cameras set up, checked the pictures and found pictures of the guy checking it with a rifle in hand, and bait down in front of it.
Keep in mind this is on private timber land.
Put a plastic bag over it with a message on it politely asking them to remove it from your private land and never do it again or the camera is gone next time. Then check back for the camera or bag removal, you will be able to tell if they got the message. "Polite" way for you to be cool about it. :twocents: ;)
I'm taking it as it's mine now and reporting the trespasser.
Or that.
Post by: h20hunter on September 25, 2018, 07:40:31 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 25, 2018, 07:46:21 AM
I would feel very strongly about trespassers in that scenario. :tup:
Oh I get it! :tup:
What if they legitimately didn't know it was private land, not likely I know but let's just say? They show back up to find their camera gone. Then they get on huntwa and bitch about some ass that stole their camera. :chuckle:
Post by: salt n sage90 on September 25, 2018, 07:59:29 AM
It was an expensive lesson.
Post by: h20hunter on September 25, 2018, 08:05:57 AM
I would feel very strongly about trespassers in that scenario. :tup:
Oh I get it! :tup:
What if they legitimately didn't know it was private land, not likely I know but let's just say? They show back up to find their camera gone. Then they get on huntwa and bitch about some ass that stole their camera. :chuckle:
Valid question. If they were respectful, admitted fault and apologized I would return it. We as hunters are obligated to know where we are and hunt legally. Mistakes can happen and when they do it xan be handled.
Side note, short story. Many years ago I was hunting public land, got turned way around and realized I needed to cross orivate property to get back to a known road or backtrack more miles than I had time to do. I unloaded my rifle, secured it in my pack, and set out. If confronted my plan was to be honest, offer to show my rounds were put away, and apologize for my presesnce. I did not get confronted as I was quite a ways from any dwelling but I was still trespassing none the less.
Post by: Oh Mah on September 25, 2018, 08:10:13 AM
Post by: X-Force on September 25, 2018, 10:41:53 AM
The option to "take the camera, but leave a note with a phone number saying they can meet you to come get it " was mulled around a bit. But after careful deliberation and seeing the pile was toting a gun in the middle of summer into a bait site, as well as trespassing, it was decided that he would be fined a fee in the amount of the camera.
It was an expensive lesson.
I understand going after a trespasser but in general carrying a rifle and baiting for deer and elk is not illegal in Washington 10 gallons or less.
Post by: salt n sage90 on September 25, 2018, 10:52:41 AM
That was more what I was trying to get at.
Post by: X-Force on September 25, 2018, 10:56:20 AM
True it isn't illegal, and it IS a good idea to walk into a bait site with a gun. Though the fact that he was blatantly trespassing doesn't exactly speak to his morals, so who knows if he ignores other laws such as hunting seasons...or if he thinks they don't apply to him. There have been problems with certain groups of people trespassing in this specific area before deer hunting in February.
That was more what I was trying to get at.
For sure. There are people who bend or don't care about the rules, private property, etc.
I just didnt want people reading the forum to think that either baiting deer or elk or carrying a rifle has something intrinsically wrong with it.
Post by: salt n sage90 on September 25, 2018, 10:57:29 AM
Post by: HighlandLofts on September 25, 2018, 12:47:12 PM
If I put feeders out in the bigger sets of wilderness woods I'd be carrying a decent size gun no matter what time of the year it my be.
As being on private land, I'd stay the hell off and go find a good place on public land.
I have a couple of spots on public land that I took all of our excess apples to and I bought a bunch of one pound packs of salt from Wal-Mart I bought for 54 cents a pound and put out there as well.
When I go check them I carry my 44 magnum Ruger Redhawk just in case of a cougar being close by watching the bait station.
One of these days I might set a cam up on them, but maybe not.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
Nice. pretty obvious who those last people are!!
They'll ruin that area just like they ruined part of the bumping unit!
How did we ruin bumping?? Did we ruin it because we killed elk in the unit? Did we ruin it because we documented our journey and posted it on YouTube? I bet Steve rinella of meateater ruins the Blues next year when his elk hunt airs on Netflix. It’s a limited entry bull tag for god sake if people want to hike 7 miles for a spike god willing. Sorry for ruining bumping by posting some videos of killing two elk.
Post by: IBspoiled on October 02, 2018, 05:18:29 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 02, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
Nice. pretty obvious who those last people are!!
They'll ruin that area just like they ruined part of the bumping unit!
How did we ruin bumping?? Did we ruin it because we killed elk in the unit? Did we ruin it because we documented our journey and posted it on YouTube? I bet Steve rinella of meateater ruins the Blues next year when his elk hunt airs on Netflix. It’s a limited entry bull tag for god sake if people want to hike 7 miles for a spike god willing. Sorry for ruining bumping by posting some videos of killing two elk.
If I knew you guys were going to post a video of the area and proudly brodcast it over social media, I WOULD OF NEVER responded to any of the pm's I got from you guys.
After that ordeal, I learned from both of you to be cautious who I reply to.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 05:50:42 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Nice. pretty obvious who those last people are!!
They'll ruin that area just like they ruined part of the bumping unit!
How did we ruin bumping?? Did we ruin it because we killed elk in the unit? Did we ruin it because we documented our journey and posted it on YouTube? I bet Steve rinella of meateater ruins the Blues next year when his elk hunt airs on Netflix. It’s a limited entry bull tag for god sake if people want to hike 7 miles for a spike god willing. Sorry for ruining bumping by posting some videos of killing two elk.
If I knew you guys were going to post a video of the area and proudly brodcast it over social media, I WOULD OF NEVER responded to any of the pm's I got from you guys.
After that ordeal, I learned from both of you to be cautious who I reply to.
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it’s like you gave out your honey hole and then we hunted it and then blew it up? We didn’t step foot in any of the areas you recommended I asked about the said area we hunted and you said it’s nasty country to get into I still have the messages as I’m sure you have them as well. So please again tell me how I ruined bumping as I’m sure 95% of the people on this forum including you have no idea where either of our bulls were killed exactly. You see McDaniel lake in a video for 5 seconds it’s not some secret spot as you can drive to it.. Blankenship meadow again not a giant secret...
Post by: 92xj on October 02, 2018, 06:07:02 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 06:12:29 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Eating a burger and Drinking a beer for the last time in 7 days and before a 8 mile pack in on the evening before opening day.... okay you’re right
Post by: IBspoiled on October 02, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Post by: IBspoiled on October 02, 2018, 06:16:03 PM
Post by: zackmioli on October 02, 2018, 06:21:49 PM
maybe you should get your story straight with the other *censored* guys before blabbing on here. Because it was mid to late august when I met jacob and one other self proclaimed *censored* guy filming there hike up into this area. why would they all claim that if he quit in decemberI was with Jacob that day we met you. I am part of *censored*, Jacob is not. I hunted that area for 3 days. No member of *censored* other than me stepped foot in that unit and none of us messed with your cameras.
People hunting with tactics you don’t personally use does not mean they are ruining an area.
Post by: 92xj on October 02, 2018, 06:23:34 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Eating a burger and Drinking a beer for the last time in 7 days and before a 8 mile pack in on the evening before opening day.... okay you’re right
You're the one trying to make it in the social media outdoor industry, not me. Take it however you want, learn from it if you chose, be defensive if you like, no skin off my back. You don't know who sees your videos. The next guy could have been the biggest producer looking for the next big thing but has now moved on.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 06:34:46 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 02, 2018, 06:36:30 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 06:38:51 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Eating a burger and Drinking a beer for the last time in 7 days and before a 8 mile pack in on the evening before opening day.... okay you’re right
You're the one trying to make it in the social media outdoor industry, not me. Take it however you want, learn from it if you chose, be defensive if you like, no skin off my back. You don't know who sees your videos. The next guy could have been the biggest producer looking for the next big thing but has now moved on.
First on the priority list is to enjoy our time in the outdoors and enjoy our times as friends. We took the cameras with us to document the journey and our travels and to capture moments we’ll forget. We didn’t grab cameras to change who we are or to hide things to make it look like we’re sonone we’re not. You saw me in a wife beater enjoying a cold beer as a last treat for 7 days the day before opener and prior to a 7 mile pack in. I’m not being defensive I’m clearing it up as it looks like I need to defend myself for drinking a beer.
Post by: IBspoiled on October 02, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
so let me get this straight,UUGH so you think that chasing all the elk out of an area is not ruining it. at least not for youmaybe you should get your story straight with the other *censored* guys before blabbing on here. Because it was mid to late august when I met jacob and one other self proclaimed *censored* guy filming there hike up into this area. why would they all claim that if he quit in decemberI was with Jacob that day we met you. I am part of *censored*, Jacob is not. I hunted that area for 3 days. No member of *censored* other than me stepped foot in that unit and none of us messed with your cameras.
People hunting with tactics you don’t personally use does not mean they are ruining an area.
Post by: zackmioli on October 02, 2018, 07:08:40 PM
No one was harassing the elk to chase them out of the country. Like I said, just because people use tactics such as aggressive bugling and you dont does not mean the elk are getting chased out of the area. Jacob ended up killing a great bull while I was on the high buck hunt. He must have killed the only one left in the unit after chasing all the others away.so let me get this straight,UUGH so you think that chasing all the elk out of an area is not ruining it. at least not for youmaybe you should get your story straight with the other *censored* guys before blabbing on here. Because it was mid to late august when I met jacob and one other self proclaimed *censored* guy filming there hike up into this area. why would they all claim that if he quit in decemberI was with Jacob that day we met you. I am part of *censored*, Jacob is not. I hunted that area for 3 days. No member of *censored* other than me stepped foot in that unit and none of us messed with your cameras.
People hunting with tactics you don’t personally use does not mean they are ruining an area.
Post by: robertsjd on October 02, 2018, 07:10:26 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 02, 2018, 07:14:56 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Hey! I thought I might be the only one that turned it off after that! :tup: well that and the profanity.
Post by: 92xj on October 02, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Naches sportsman was correct was correct in saying you will ruin this area. you successfully ruined it this year. at least for the archery season. correct me if I get anything wrong here, you hunt the area with no reguard for others that are hunting there, tromping through bedding areas and bugling and cow calling all day chasing all the elk out of one drainage to the next or beyond. I'm not trying to say your stupid or disrespectful accept for messing with other peoples cameras, only that you are ignorant of the behavior and patterns of the elk that live there. these elk will stay in this area if they are not pressured to much.
You continue to say “ you “ when I or any of us stepped foot into this unit. Jacob the one you have a photo of us no longer with us as a group. Nor has he been since last December. He was with a new group of friends I just don’t want his actions to bring down *censored*s name.as he acted alone or influenced by other people.
Drinking beer before going out to hunt posted in your video ruined the *censored* name, not your ex-friends actions.
Hey! I thought I might be the only one that turned it off after that! :tup: well that and the profanity.
:tup:
Post by: IBspoiled on October 02, 2018, 07:28:54 PM
If all the elk were chased out of the area how did jacob “ the bad hunting tactics hunter “ kill this bull?well thats easy because he hiked his but out of the area that you all chased the elk out of. he got this bull over four miles as the crow fly's away from there. which is no easy hike . I thought you would have known that . maybe you do know but are still trying to justify your actions. I talked with the others that helped him pack it out . some really nice fellows too.
Post by: zackmioli on October 02, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
If all the elk were chased out of the area how did jacob “ the bad hunting tactics hunter “ kill this bull?well thats easy because he hiked his but out of the area that you all chased the elk out of. he got this bull over four miles as the crow fly's away from there. which is no easy hike . I thought you would have known that . maybe you do know but are still trying to justify your actions. I talked with the others that helped him pack it out . some really nice fellows too.
Covering country is part of elk hunting. We covered over 40 miles in the 3 days I was there. It’s just how we do things. If you do it differently good for you. I’m not gonna tell ya that you’re ruining an area by doing what you do.
I enjoyed meeting you but damn is this getting really dramatized at this point
Post by: jackelope on October 02, 2018, 10:46:20 PM
Post by: IBspoiled on October 03, 2018, 06:26:55 AM
Yes I am a little bitter at this point. I've had ten years of elk hunting bliss with little to no other hunting pressure in this area. I new this would come to an end some day. but it's still a hard pill to swallow. I wont blame this all on you but you are affecting the elk behavior in a negative way. I chose to hunt this spot because it had the least hunting pressure and I was furthest away from others. an occasional hunter moving through would never run the elk out of there. this all changed with people who are running with the born and raised playbook. I know these tactic work but I think this is going to have a negative effect on the elk and hunting in the long run. maybe next year you will have to hike 40 miles a day to find an elk that will bugle.If all the elk were chased out of the area how did jacob “ the bad hunting tactics hunter “ kill this bull?well thats easy because he hiked his but out of the area that you all chased the elk out of. he got this bull over four miles as the crow fly's away from there. which is no easy hike . I thought you would have known that . maybe you do know but are still trying to justify your actions. I talked with the others that helped him pack it out . some really nice fellows too.
Covering country is part of elk hunting. We covered over 40 miles in the 3 days I was there. It’s just how we do things. If you do it differently good for you. I’m not gonna tell ya that you’re ruining an area by doing what you do.
I enjoyed meeting you but damn is this getting really dramatized at this point
Post by: CedarPants on October 03, 2018, 07:25:52 AM
Post by: jstone on October 03, 2018, 08:26:02 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 03, 2018, 08:45:05 AM
Post by: elkrack on October 03, 2018, 09:16:31 AM
Post by: BlackBellyHumpBack on October 03, 2018, 09:27:13 AM
Post by: CedarPants on October 03, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
Post by: zackmioli on October 03, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
The tactics talked about usurp other tactics being used by others in the area. So great it works for some, but as you should be getting from what people are saying, many don't appreciate the tactic. In areas or states with others not around great. Its like guy that that's peacefully still fishing for trout anchored in a little bay doesn't appreciate the guy who motors around him casting buzz bombs. The attitude that posting about specific areas doesn't ruin it is like saying advertising doesn't work. Especially for limited draw areas, you can most definitely easily ruin the odds of getting drawn. I didn't read all the posts in this thread but the stuff about *censored* seems weird to me. Is this the new kids lingo for peeing outside? Kind of different to name a hunting troop after that.If I saw anyone sitting on a wallow, in a stand or ground blind, or just silently still hunting I would happily back out and keep quiet until getting a reasonable distance away. Of course I can’t speak for everyone who runs a more aggressive calling style but I fully understand not everyone does it and that everyone has the right to enjoy their hunt how they want. I’ve never bullied anyone out of their spot or gone screaming thru someone’s set up. People will run into people on public ground in a popular area, it’s just bound to happen.
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 03, 2018, 09:56:41 AM
I thought *censored* stood for Pacific North wild or Nortjwest Wild or something like that and no Pee "N" wild?
Also, what's this tactic of "aggressive calling" or something? What tactic were they using that chased ALL the elk out of the area for miles and miles?
Post by: 2MANY on October 03, 2018, 10:07:23 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on October 03, 2018, 10:12:56 AM
Wearing glasses while hunting should be outlawed.:dunno: :chuckle:
Peein' wild and now banning glasses while hunting. What's next?
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 03, 2018, 10:14:57 AM
Wearing glasses while hunting should be outlawed.:dunno: :chuckle:
:yike: :yike: :yike: so I'm an out law? The last 4 years I guess. :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on October 03, 2018, 10:39:09 AM
Wearing glasses while hunting should be outlawed.
:chuckle:
Post by: Elkcollector82 on October 03, 2018, 11:11:16 AM
OP was great. The out come even greater. Now it took a left hand turn and it’s just straight up bashing. Who cares about the hunting tactics of others. This thread is a train wreck and is the highlight of WHY MEMBERS DONT POST!
Post by: bobbydean on October 03, 2018, 11:52:08 AM
Post by: robertsjd on October 03, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on October 03, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Thought with the NEW forum rules. Bashing other members wasn’t allowed? :dunno:
OP was great. The out come even greater. Now it took a left hand turn and it’s just straight up bashing. Who cares about the hunting tactics of others. This thread is a train wreck and is the highlight of WHY MEMBERS DONT POST!
@Elkcollector82 and anyone else that has concerns about this thread.
There are multiple mods following this thread. I haven't seen anything that has broken the rules yet. There is some definite borderline stuff in my opinion.
With that said, if there are comments in particular that you think are breaking the rules please click the report to moderator button and give a brief description of the issue so the mod team can review it.
We all look at things differently and not all of the mods see it the same way either. One of the mods not following this thread may see the report and agree. Heck, one of the mods following might read your report and look at the comments differently based on your view of the comment. When it gets reported we review it and then take action if needed. We aren't perfect and sometimes just don't see it in the same light as others.
I encourage anyone that has concerns to hit the report to moderator button.
Post by: h20hunter on October 03, 2018, 12:13:05 PM
Post by: 2MANY on October 03, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
I had Lasik a couple years ago.
Post by: huntnphool on October 03, 2018, 12:18:02 PM
:yeah: :peep:
+1
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 03, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
OK...................So I'll come clean.
I had Lasik a couple years ago.
I’ll Join you...... there is something about letting it all hangout and P-Ing in the wild.....very exhilarating....I’m guilty. :pee:
Post by: Sandberm on October 03, 2018, 04:09:37 PM
I've never hunted elk but have day hiked around the Bumping lake, Blankenship Meadows, Tumac mtn, Twin Lakes? area and always thought it would be cool to hunt elk there.
Now I know whats a cool tactic with the regulars and what isnt.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 03, 2018, 04:17:15 PM
OK...................So I'll come clean.
I had Lasik a couple years ago.
Did you by chance, stay at a Holiday Inn Express?
Post by: gasman on October 03, 2018, 04:55:05 PM
Zack and I " *censored* Pacific North Wild" joined this thread to simply disconnect Jacob and his actions dragging down *censored* and its name. Then we were bashed by hunting tactics and our actions in videos. So by nature we have defended ourselves. we get were going to have people that don't particularly like us or what were doing. But we play by the same rules as everyone else. If you don't like me because I drank a beer that's 100% your right I don't mind that. But saying we as a group ruin entire units or hunting areas is insanity. We work just as hard as most people we put in the time and effort. We just chose to film photograph and document our hunts as we truly enjoy that aspect of it as well.
Dude I'm with you.....
:brew: drink up, hunt the way you want and if people don't like, them screw them.... :tup:
Post by: slowhand on October 03, 2018, 07:28:26 PM
Alcohol and hunting doesn’t mix.
After the hunt if You want to drink, no problem. But during or before.
Sorry but that’s just not ok.
Post by: Crunchy on October 03, 2018, 07:46:14 PM
Post by: Thehowler on October 03, 2018, 08:09:23 PM
I’m good with all of it except the drink up part.
Alcohol and hunting doesn’t mix.
After the hunt if You want to drink, no problem. But during or before.
Sorry but that’s just not ok.
Nothing worse than seeing beer cans tossed on the side of the road or trails while you are out hunting. Slobs
Nothing worse than seeing all the thrown in comments to a thread.
Post by: TylerMulie on October 03, 2018, 08:20:12 PM
@TylerMulie
Your post was unnecessary and unacceptable, please refrain from such posts in the future, thanks.
Post by: Bigshooter on October 03, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
@Bigshooter
We are done with complainers, If you don't like the site please find another site to drag down! It will not be tolerated here!
Post by: Elkcollector82 on October 03, 2018, 08:45:17 PM
I’m good with all of it except the drink up part.
Alcohol and hunting doesn’t mix.
After the hunt if You want to drink, no problem. But during or before.
Sorry but that’s just not ok.
So you condone drinking and driving vs drinking and hiking :bash:
that’s a special kinda stupid comment.
Post by: X-Force on October 03, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
I’m good with all of it except the drink up part.
Alcohol and hunting doesn’t mix.
After the hunt if You want to drink, no problem. But during or before.
Sorry but that’s just not ok.
So you condone drinking and driving vs drinking and hiking :bash:
that’s a special kinda stupid comment.
Haha where do you get that from his comment?
Post by: Oh Mah on October 03, 2018, 10:31:04 PM
+1 :tup:Zack and I " *censored* Pacific North Wild" joined this thread to simply disconnect Jacob and his actions dragging down *censored* and its name. Then we were bashed by hunting tactics and our actions in videos. So by nature we have defended ourselves. we get were going to have people that don't particularly like us or what were doing. But we play by the same rules as everyone else. If you don't like me because I drank a beer that's 100% your right I don't mind that. But saying we as a group ruin entire units or hunting areas is insanity. We work just as hard as most people we put in the time and effort. We just chose to film photograph and document our hunts as we truly enjoy that aspect of it as well.
Dude I'm with you.....
:brew: drink up, hunt the way you want and if people don't like, them screw them.... :tup: