Post by: Crunchy on October 17, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
Lastly,
Cerakote locations with decent turnaround
Decent stock to throw it into in the $500-$800 range
Thanks in advance. This will give me something to do in the off season.
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on October 17, 2018, 03:46:28 PM
I recently talked to my old gunsmith that went under with the new regulations but he sent stuff to these guys. They are in Bremmerton, WA and come highly recommended from him.
Post by: Bob33 on October 17, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 17, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
As for stocks in the 500-800 range manners, McMillan, or agcompmposites
My 300 win has a 9 twist #5 spiral flutedinished at 28.5 inches.
For a 7 mag I would say 26+ on barrel length.
I’ll second the trigger also.
Post by: Bill W on October 17, 2018, 04:24:35 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 17, 2018, 04:30:57 PM
Post by: Timberdog on October 17, 2018, 05:06:05 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 17, 2018, 05:47:57 PM
As for stocks in the 500-800 range manners, McMillan, or agcompmposites
My 300 win has a 9 twist #5 spiral flutedinished at 28.5 inches.
For a 7 mag I would say 26+ on barrel length.
I’ll second the trigger also.
28.5 finished including the brake?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 17, 2018, 05:57:01 PM
Good advice on the trigger. I should be able to pick up a Timney without too much trouble.mine is 28.5 before the brake. 30 ish including the brake
As for stocks in the 500-800 range manners, McMillan, or agcompmposites
My 300 win has a 9 twist #5 spiral flutedinished at 28.5 inches.
For a 7 mag I would say 26+ on barrel length.
I’ll second the trigger also.
28.5 finished including the brake?
You definitely don’t need that much but I wouldn’t personally go shorter than 26 before the brake.
Post by: Reidus on October 17, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
I hear a lot of good things about benchmark.
Manners elite hunter or mcmillan edge in whatever configuration you prefer. (order asap)
Just the standard trigger tech is pretty tough trigger to beat for a hunting rifle.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 17, 2018, 06:59:29 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on October 17, 2018, 07:35:25 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on October 17, 2018, 07:55:13 PM
Post by: bullfisher on October 17, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 17, 2018, 08:27:10 PM
X2 on Mad Custom Coatings in Bremerton. They do excellent work. :tup: Had them do my 300 Weatherby and it turned out great.
What was the turn around time? A friend used them and seemed that it was longer than they quoted by a few weeks. Not a huge deal.
Post by: Encore 280 on October 17, 2018, 08:45:56 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 17, 2018, 09:00:58 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 17, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
Put it in a Killer Innovations Orias Chassis.
You might be one of the only guys out there who’s familiar with or would recommend an Orias chassis. Everybody else forgot about those. :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 17, 2018, 09:13:34 PM
Put it in a Killer Innovations Orias Chassis.
You might be one of the only guys out there who’s familiar with or would recommend an Orias chassis. Everybody else forgot about those. :chuckle:
You know Rick the owner ? I have one myself. Remington 700 in 308 sitting in it.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 17, 2018, 10:08:48 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 17, 2018, 10:38:49 PM
Put it in a Killer Innovations Orias Chassis.
You might be one of the only guys out there who’s familiar with or would recommend an Orias chassis. Everybody else forgot about those. :chuckle:
You know Rick the owner ? I have one myself. Remington 700 in 308 sitting in it.
I met him a couple years back briefly while at their shop. I got a chance to see an early version of the chassis courtesy of Jay.sharkbait when he was working there. It’s a great design but I just haven’t found a good build to use one on.
Post by: CaNINE on October 18, 2018, 06:57:37 AM
Post by: Crunchy on October 18, 2018, 05:47:48 PM
Benchmark 5 1.250" 3.00" .700" 26" 27" 6.0" .875" 4.00 lbs
Benchmark 6 1.250" 3.25" .750" 26" 27" 6.5" .925" 4.46 lbs
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 18, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
Post by: jasnt on October 18, 2018, 07:07:55 PM
Post by: Snakeriver on October 18, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 18, 2018, 07:34:59 PM
Post by: CaNINE on October 18, 2018, 08:10:19 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 18, 2018, 08:47:19 PM
Which contour. Trying to decide between these two sporter contours.How much more accurate will a heavier barrel make the first shot from a cold barrel be?
Benchmark 5 1.250" 3.00" .700" 26" 27" 6.0" .875" 4.00 lbs
Benchmark 6 1.250" 3.25" .750" 26" 27" 6.5" .925" 4.46 lbs
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 18, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 19, 2018, 07:54:14 AM
I want to upgrade my 700DM 300wm with a barrel & stock but keep cost to a minimum. Any suggestions are welcome.👍🏻
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Could a guy have a 26” #5 contour barrel on a remmy 700 action with a Bell & Carlson or HS precision stock & keep the bare rifle weight to around 8lbs?I don’t think that would get you there. I have a lone peak razor action with a 26 inch #5 and a manners stock and am over 8 lb. if you spiral fluted the barrel yu would be closer but I think the hs stock is still a bit too heavy to get you there.
I want to upgrade my 700DM 300wm with a barrel & stock but keep cost to a minimum. Any suggestions are welcome.👍🏻
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 19, 2018, 08:31:26 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 19, 2018, 09:13:27 AM
Post by: Crunchy on October 19, 2018, 09:19:20 AM
Im at 9# with manners elite stock, 28” carbon barrel sendero.
Getting an Elite stock aint easy. Been digging through their website, and unless you wait 4-6 months likely not going to find one laying around.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 09:28:03 AM
I want it to be a well balanced hunting rifle with 800 yd accuracy but not be over 9lbs. I have a tikka superlight in 7RM. While it is super accurate, I find it a bit difficult to shoot accurately out to distance being so light. Thinking something 8-9 would be the ticket but not have to lug a 12-13 lb Lr rifle into the high country. Am I dreaming having a tight budget?Hang a spiral fluted #5 off that tikka and get a lightweight stock and you’ll be pretty good
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 09:29:06 AM
Get it ordered ASAP.manners and McMillan are both long lead. Another option is AGcomposite. Quicker turn around time on themIm at 9# with manners elite stock, 28” carbon barrel sendero.
Getting an Elite stock aint easy. Been digging through their website, and unless you wait 4-6 months likely not going to find one laying around.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 19, 2018, 09:43:34 AM
killer stocks as well! Wish I had gotten hands on one before I ordered my last McMillan.Get it ordered ASAP.manners and McMillan are both long lead. Another option is AGcomposite. Quicker turn around time on themIm at 9# with manners elite stock, 28” carbon barrel sendero.
Getting an Elite stock aint easy. Been digging through their website, and unless you wait 4-6 months likely not going to find one laying around.
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 19, 2018, 10:08:55 AM
I want it to be a well balanced hunting rifle with 800 yd accuracy but not be over 9lbs. I have a tikka superlight in 7RM. While it is super accurate, I find it a bit difficult to shoot accurately out to distance being so light. Thinking something 8-9 would be the ticket but not have to lug a 12-13 lb Lr rifle into the high country. Am I dreaming having a tight budget?Hang a spiral fluted #5 off that tikka and get a lightweight stock and you’ll be pretty good
That’s an idea but I kind of want to shoot a 200+ grainer out of the 300 wm & it’s accuracy is less than desirable. Wondering if factory magazine length with heavy for caliber bullets would be an issue in either the 700DM 300 wm or tikka 7 mag?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
sorry to threadjack the op. But you would wouldn’t get everything you need in length from the tikka for the 300. I am loading 215 to a oal of 3.74 in my 300 win. A long throated 300 wsm could be pretty good on a tikka. Except it would still be a tikka. :chuckle: had to get my jab in!I want it to be a well balanced hunting rifle with 800 yd accuracy but not be over 9lbs. I have a tikka superlight in 7RM. While it is super accurate, I find it a bit difficult to shoot accurately out to distance being so light. Thinking something 8-9 would be the ticket but not have to lug a 12-13 lb Lr rifle into the high country. Am I dreaming having a tight budget?Hang a spiral fluted #5 off that tikka and get a lightweight stock and you’ll be pretty good
That’s an idea but I kind of want to shoot a 200+ grainer out of the 300 wm & it’s accuracy is less than desirable. Wondering if factory magazine length with heavy for caliber bullets would be an issue in either the 700DM 300 wm or tikka 7 mag?
Post by: Reidus on October 19, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
killer stocks as well! Wish I had gotten hands on one before I ordered my last McMillan.Get it ordered ASAP.manners and McMillan are both long lead. Another option is AGcomposite. Quicker turn around time on themIm at 9# with manners elite stock, 28” carbon barrel sendero.
Getting an Elite stock aint easy. Been digging through their website, and unless you wait 4-6 months likely not going to find one laying around.
I wouldn't recommend their tikka option.
Post by: Reidus on October 19, 2018, 10:18:30 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 19, 2018, 11:02:46 AM
Could a guy have a 26” #5 contour barrel on a remmy 700 action with a Bell & Carlson or HS precision stock & keep the bare rifle weight to around 8lbs?
I want to upgrade my 700DM 300wm with a barrel & stock but keep cost to a minimum. Any suggestions are welcome.👍🏻
My 5’s are both 26 before the brake. And in a similar stock and they come in 8.5-9lbs bare. One has a oversized bolt knob and Wyatt’s bottom the other is just hinged floor plate so it’s about 1/2 pound or so lighter.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 19, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
Yep, 9 month build time on mine - 6 mo for stock, 7 for barrel, 5 for action. Then add 6 weeks for hydrodip After rifle in their hand.Im at 9# with manners elite stock, 28” carbon barrel sendero.
Getting an Elite stock aint easy. Been digging through their website, and unless you wait 4-6 months likely not going to find one laying around.
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 19, 2018, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 19, 2018, 11:54:34 AM
Sorry for the thread jack but I appreciate all the input from the resident gun guys. Would like to hear more on the performance of the 7wsm/180’s from a built tikka?🤔throat it long on a 26"+ barrel and shouldn't be too hard to achieve. I run the 185's out of my 300wsm at 3110.
Post by: b23 on October 19, 2018, 03:00:51 PM
Sorry for the thread jack but I appreciate all the input from the resident gun guys. Would like to hear more on the performance of the 7wsm/180’s from a built tikka?🤔
I'm running the 180gr Berger's 3088-3100 from my 7mm Blaser Mag built on a Rem LA 700 with a 26in Hart #4, if you're looking for 7mm ideas.
Post by: Crunchy on October 19, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
This is the first I googled up.
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/remington-700-detachable-mag-bottom-metal-dbm/7907-remington-long-action-la-stealth-338-lapua-cip-3850-length-detachable-mag-bottom-metal.html
Post by: Reidus on October 19, 2018, 07:37:07 PM
The seekins rifles have a decent looking mag system on them. I been meaning to look into it more.
Post by: Crunchy on October 19, 2018, 07:39:38 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 19, 2018, 07:46:23 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 19, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 19, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
Post by: b23 on October 19, 2018, 09:05:26 PM
What input do you have on bottom metal. I am looking at HS Precision detachable magazine bottom metal, mainly for longer cartridges. Bit pricey, but if there are no other reasonable options I dont mind paying.
I have a few rifles with HS Det. mags and they've been great, they feed well and are nealy flush across the bottom of the stock but in the long actions they are more limited for long OAL's. I don't remember off the top off my head but my LA one only allows for an OAL of a little over 3.600. I have a Seekins det. mag setup on my 300AX and it'll go all the way out to 3.900 but I'm not sure Seekins still makes those and it sticks down much further than my HS setup does.
Post by: Crunchy on October 19, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
Post by: Reidus on October 19, 2018, 10:54:10 PM
http://www.curtiscustom.com/product/magazines/
looks like they're working on an extended one.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 20, 2018, 08:35:44 AM
Post by: Reidus on October 20, 2018, 09:50:51 AM
PTG box will get you 4.0
Doesn't that require some milling on the action?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 20, 2018, 10:39:40 AM
so does a wyatt's. If you are having a rifle BUILT, then a bit of action milling isn't even something to blink atPTG box will get you 4.0
Doesn't that require some milling on the action?
Post by: Crunchy on October 20, 2018, 10:54:29 AM
Post by: b23 on October 20, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 20, 2018, 08:12:08 PM
Was hoping that the stock builder will inlet for whichever bottom metal I pick. I know Manners and McMillan will do it, not sure about others. Just have to pick well known bottom metal design.
It seems like most bottom metal is designated either M4 or M5 inlet. The M4 style will drop into most BDL inlets in a stock but the M5 style requires a special inlet. I have the Wyatt's bottom metal and 5 round magazine setup on a stock right now and it's not bad. The mag locks in securely but it rattles terribly. I do like the mag release though.
I bought this stock and Wyatt's bottom metal package as a secondary stock for my Nucleus action and it's a decent deal for $430.
https://www.stockysstocks.com/stocks-by-brand/stocky-s/stocky-s-accublocks/accublockr-long-range-composite-stocks/package-deal-stocky-sr-long-range-composite-premium-finished-stock-with-wyatt-s-m4-det-mag.html
this is what i was thinking of. AI style mag that sticks down 1/2".
http://www.curtiscustom.com/product/magazines/
looks like they're working on an extended one.
The only problems with the Curtis Custom mags are the price, availability and the max OAL. They're $130, never in stock, and have a max OAL of 3.625". Accurate-Mag does make a 3rd mag that allows a 3.750" OAL and is about 1" shorter than the 5rd version. My 5rd Wyatt's mag hangs down almost exactly 2" so I'd expect the 3rd version to hang about 1" bellow the stock.
Post by: Crunchy on November 08, 2018, 03:41:32 PM
http://agcomposites.com/rifle-alpine-hunter/
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 08, 2018, 03:45:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
Post by: Reidus on November 08, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Agc are great!
I was less than thrilled with the AGC for the tikka. Main problem was how it was inletted. With the Rem 700 one you're probably fine. The Tikka one is a poor retrofit of the 700 stock to fit a tikka.
Post by: Crunchy on November 08, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
When are we going to see another huntwa group purchase deal? :rolleyes:
I must have missed out on the first one. How many years ago was that?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 08, 2018, 05:53:23 PM
good thing he has a 700 then :tup:Agc are great!
I was less than thrilled with the AGC for the tikka. Main problem was how it was inletted. With the Rem 700 one you're probably fine. The Tikka one is a poor retrofit of the 700 stock to fit a tikka.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 09, 2018, 08:44:31 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 09, 2018, 09:54:12 AM
How come nobody buys a chassis for their build ?Speaking for myself here, but they are heavier and I don’t need the accessory options on a hunting rifle. As long as I can mount a bipod I’m fine. Plus I like the looks of a composite stock much better.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 09, 2018, 10:03:49 AM
exact same reasons for me as well. I just cant see a single benefit to going chassis over compositeHow come nobody buys a chassis for their build ?Speaking for myself here, but they are heavier and I don’t need the accessory options on a hunting rifle. As long as I can mount a bipod I’m fine. Plus I like the looks of a composite stock much better.
Post by: kentrek on November 09, 2018, 10:25:59 AM
It might be an option for a dedicated long range gun that needs the weight and will ride in your pack until you get to your crows nest..esp a folder
Everything is a compromise
Post by: b23 on November 09, 2018, 11:19:52 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 09, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
Post by: yorketransport on November 09, 2018, 02:44:30 PM
How come nobody buys a chassis for their build ?
They’re alright for some applications but I don’t like them for my style of hunting. They’re heavier, have more edges to snag on brush, ring like a bell when a branch hits them and they’re COLD!!! :chuckle:
I’ve had XLR, Killer Innovations, PDC, MDT, KRG, J Allen and Mcree chassis and the only one left is the McRee on the 338 SnipeTac. I even worked with Jay.sharkbait to design a chassis for the CZ 527 and Savage actions.
One of my biggest complaints though is the cost. I know exactly how much it costs to manufacture one and the prices they sell for are obscene sometimes. Profit’s not a bad word, but some of these companies just over charge to gouge shooters who don’t know better. :twocents:
Post by: Crunchy on November 09, 2018, 03:00:49 PM
Post by: wooltie on November 09, 2018, 10:09:35 PM
Bench made the barrel is like 6 weeks, pretty fast turn. I was choosing between a bench or a lilja. Both barrels have identical specs, but bench is local, faster mfg time and saved money on shipping.
I had Freud install the barrel. Fwiw Freud told me that bench barrels are really freaking straight, which doesn't affect accuracy, he just has observed that their barrels don't wobble on the lathe so to speak.
Man once you put aftermarket steel on one gun it is so tempting to replace all you barrels.
I
Post by: hogslayer on November 09, 2018, 10:25:51 PM
So when I ordered my barrel from Benchmark I have them the twist, grooves, contour and length. I later wondered if they needed to know my bullet preference. So I shot them an email, and the nice lady who handles the office stuff said that they didnt need it. Maybe I have been reading too much online stuff. Do I need to make sure the smith has this info, or is it not a big deal?
You just need to have a fast enough twist for the bullet you will be shooting. Each bullet manufacture has a recommended twist. Berger just changed there’s to a little slower. Going with a fatter twist is better than slower. The gun smith will chamber the round you wish with the amount of freebore you should need to get the bullet to the neck should junction. If you going to shoot a 300 win mag and a 210 vld, you would be ok with a 212 eldx or 215 Berger etc
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 10, 2018, 07:11:32 AM
How come nobody buys a chassis for their build ?
They’re alright for some applications but I don’t like them for my style of hunting. They’re heavier, have more edges to snag on brush, ring like a bell when a branch hits them and they’re COLD!!! :chuckle:
I’ve had XLR, Killer Innovations, PDC, MDT, KRG, J Allen and Mcree chassis and the only one left is the McRee on the 338 SnipeTac. I even worked with Jay.sharkbait to design a chassis for the CZ 527 and Savage actions.
One of my biggest complaints though is the cost. I know exactly how much it costs to manufacture one and the prices they sell for are obscene sometimes. Profit’s not a bad word, but some of these companies just over charge to gouge shooters who don’t know better. :twocents:
I've got a Killer Innovations and 2 MDT LSS Chassis. They're great for me, but a little expensive. I can't hunt anymore, except out of the truck because of my knees. So the long range is only what I use them for..