Post by: Goshawk on October 29, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
Thanks in advance,
Goshawk.
Post by: KFhunter on October 29, 2018, 10:47:54 PM
I'm just interested in the discussion if a motorized cart would be allowed beyond locked gates.
private timberlands?
national forest?
BLM?
DNR?
WDFW lands?
other public lands?
obviously no on wilderness
@bigtex
Post by: Goshawk on October 30, 2018, 10:01:59 AM
Post by: bigtex on November 06, 2018, 01:28:59 PM
taggingIt literally depends on each agency. There is no statewide or federal law/rule. So it is up to each agency (and in the case of private lands each landowner) to decide in their regulations.
I'm just interested in the discussion if a motorized cart would be allowed beyond locked gates.
private timberlands?
national forest?
BLM?
DNR?
WDFW lands?
other public lands?
obviously no on wilderness
@bigtex
Here is the pertinent definition for DNR lands (note it is diferent for WDFW lands): "Motor vehicle or motorized vehicle" means any device that is moved or propelled by an internal combustion engine or electrically powered motor. It shall include, but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, motor bikes, motor-scooters and off-road vehicles, whether or not they can be licensed to operate on public roads. The term does not include vessels or personal mobility assistive devices, such as wheelchairs.
Post by: gaddy on November 06, 2018, 02:24:08 PM
Post by: Goshawk on November 16, 2018, 07:32:06 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 16, 2018, 08:26:59 AM
Post by: Seahawk12 on November 16, 2018, 09:01:25 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 16, 2018, 09:04:48 AM
After yesterday's multi hour drag on a buck I have got to come up with something better than just my own legs, or it will be time to stop hunting behind gates.
Debone on kill site and throw all deboned meat in your pack and hike it out!
Post by: Humptulips on November 16, 2018, 09:38:28 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 17, 2018, 08:51:16 AM
After yesterday's multi hour drag on a buck I have got to come up with something better than just my own legs, or it will be time to stop hunting behind gates.
Debone on kill site and throw all deboned meat in your pack and hike it out!
:yeah:
I know a couple oldtimers in upper 70s that bring elk out whole with a honda capstan winch and 150 ft of rope. Im talking miles not yards. They have it on a backboard only weighs about 20#. Mite take all day but they say its the best day of the hunt pulling a trophy out whole to camp and everyone thinks the old guys got lucky off the road.
Post by: cdriver on November 17, 2018, 08:23:33 PM
Post by: fast60eddie on November 18, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
Bigger wheels and longer handle on the game cart will help. :twocents::yeah: I made one with 27” wheels, ten speed forks and 10’ aluminum handles. I haul a 10’ Jon boat, 6 dozen decoys, blind, guns and ammo to the spot. Get creative with it tall skinny wheels and the right fulcrum makes life better.
Post by: KFhunter on November 19, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
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Post by: birddogdad on November 19, 2018, 09:50:36 AM
Post by: Stein on November 19, 2018, 10:52:08 AM
hmmm, wonder how this falls into no power behind gates? i would bet they balk. maybe not but my gut says they would.
I don't know of any agency that draws a distinction between things you ride (trucks, atv's etc) and things you walk behind. The question has been asked to most agencies and they either have confirmed no motors means no motors or have it specifically called out in the regulations.
Post by: KFhunter on November 19, 2018, 11:16:10 AM
ve·hi·cle = a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart.
I think the intent is to limit ATV's and Trucks, electric pedal assist bikes seem to be OK though.
Maybe a guy needs an electric pedal assist cart :chuckle:
(https://www.epizontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSCN3546-e1536847571764.jpg)
My last Elk hunt I was wishing I had an Ebike, it was 6 miles to my area behind a locked gate. Never seen another person, found a grizz and some good elk sign, shot some nice grouse, didn't get to arrow an elk though.
Post by: birddogdad on November 19, 2018, 11:58:59 AM
I asked a WDFW guy the question about electric decoy carts for goose hunting. He told me that motorized is motorized, doesn't matter if gas or electric.
:yeah:
like i said, fuzzy laws and individual interpretations will cause this to be just another bad purchase :bash:
Post by: Oh Mah on November 19, 2018, 12:26:08 PM
Also there are a lot of motorized equipment out there that people use in the wild,
chainsaw for one.So to say i can use a chainsaw off road to cut trees down but not use one for a winch to pull my elk out is a little off.should be allowed to use same chainsaw to power a game cart.
Post by: Thehowler on November 20, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Check out this cool little cart.
Post by: ghosthunter on November 20, 2018, 07:14:44 PM
http://www.thediyhunter.com/10-thediyhunter-info
Check out this cool little cart.
That doesn’t look any easier than packing to me.
Post by: Thehowler on November 20, 2018, 07:20:24 PM
Post by: High Climber on November 20, 2018, 07:24:23 PM
most signs that I see say something to the effect "no motorized vehicles"
ve·hi·cle = a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart.
I think the intent is to limit ATV's and Trucks, electric pedal assist bikes seem to be OK though.
Maybe a guy needs an electric pedal assist cart :chuckle:
(https://www.epizontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSCN3546-e1536847571764.jpg)
My last Elk hunt I was wishing I had an Ebike, it was 6 miles to my area behind a locked gate. Never seen another person, found a grizz and some good elk sign, shot some nice grouse, didn't get to arrow an elk though.
Ebikes (and I presume Ecarts?) are prohibited on all the gated private timberlands I frequent in western WA and OR... may be different in your neck of the woods? I recommend checking with the specific landowner. Weyerhaeuser, Sierra pacific, Hancock etc are all a big negative for ebikes. Maybe IEP and others are more lax
Post by: hunthard on December 06, 2018, 06:12:48 AM
Post by: Goshawk on December 10, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
I used to have a great appy gelding that when something big went down, I would go get and either drag out or drape over him. Sadly he passed on about 10 years ago and I never replaced him. Some of your ideas have a lot of merit so I'll spend the spring pondering the best for my situation.
A Merry Christmas to all!
Post by: millerwheeler on December 21, 2018, 11:49:46 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 22, 2018, 12:00:17 AM
With the advent of these new inventions, I'm betting those signs return.