Post by: treeclimber2852 on October 30, 2018, 07:59:44 AM
Post by: C-Money on October 30, 2018, 08:01:21 AM
Post by: Bob33 on October 30, 2018, 08:04:33 AM
Good reminder to be careful.
Post by: treeclimber2852 on October 30, 2018, 08:06:27 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 30, 2018, 08:10:57 AM
thats WAY TO CLOSE to make a call in the field and i'f let him pass if i wasn't 110% sure
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 30, 2018, 08:14:01 AM
Are any of the forks more than four inches above the skull? It not it is a legal spike.
Good reminder to be careful.
The elk's left antler looks pretty darn far from the skull. There is no way I would shoot that thing.
Post by: dvolmer on October 30, 2018, 08:24:50 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on October 30, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
The law read as such:
Spike Bull Restrictions: Elk taken in these
game management units (GMUs) must
have at least one antler with no branches
originating more than four (4) inches above
where the antler attaches to the skull An
animal with a spike on one side (1x2) is
legal in spike only units An animal with
more than one antler point more than four
inches above where the antler attaches to
the skull on both sides (2x2) is illegal
Post by: huntnfmly on October 30, 2018, 08:42:26 AM
Looks legal
Post by: Rainier10 on October 30, 2018, 08:46:02 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 30, 2018, 08:47:34 AM
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
Post by: Bob33 on October 30, 2018, 08:52:47 AM
Post by: WSU on October 30, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on October 30, 2018, 08:56:10 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on October 30, 2018, 08:56:59 AM
If a guy can shoot bullwinkle in a spike only area I know I could get cleared for shooting this bull. :chuckle:
Post by: huntnfmly on October 30, 2018, 08:57:51 AM
Post by: buglebuster on October 30, 2018, 09:02:53 AM
Post by: cmiller85 on October 30, 2018, 09:08:28 AM
I'd be comfortable shooting that spike - the eyeguards appear to originate within 4" of the hairline.
The law read as such:
Spike Bull Restrictions: Elk taken in these
game management units (GMUs) must
have at least one antler with no branches
originating more than four (4) inches above
where the antler attaches to the skull An
animal with a spike on one side (1x2) is
legal in spike only units An animal with
more than one antler point more than four
inches above where the antler attaches to
the skull on both sides (2x2) is illegal
Agreed. I'd shoot. Those brow tines are about as low as they can anatomically grow. If that's not legal then the exception rule is worthless.
I'd say that most elk have pedicle close to 4 inches. If you had to go to the skull and not to "where the antler attaches" , that wouldn't make sense.
Post by: tracksoup on October 30, 2018, 09:18:10 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on October 30, 2018, 09:42:45 AM
Here's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 30, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Post by: Samloffler on October 30, 2018, 10:01:42 AM
Might take a second to question it in a true spike unit, but his right side is definitely a spike per the law.
Post by: sjhgraysage on October 30, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Post by: High Climber on October 30, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
Wouldn’t he also be legal in a 3pt min unit?Yes he would as of this year
Post by: Antlershed on October 30, 2018, 06:58:43 PM
I’d smoke him. He’s legal in a true spike area as well:yeah:
Post by: Whitpirate on October 30, 2018, 07:13:30 PM
Where your yellow line is in not exactly antler, that is the covered in hair and I would call that the skull.
If a guy can shoot bullwinkle in a spike only area I know I could get cleared for shooting this bull. :chuckle:
:yeah: :yeah:
Post by: borntoslay on October 30, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
I think the distance has everything to do with the ruleHere's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on October 30, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
I think the distance has everything to do with the ruleHere's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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It has nothing to do with 4” from the skull. His yellow line is horizontal.
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Post by: pashok23 on October 30, 2018, 07:37:48 PM
:chuckle: :yeah:I think the distance has everything to do with the ruleHere's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 30, 2018, 07:43:24 PM
I think the distance has everything to do with the ruleHere's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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It has nothing to do with 4” from the skull. His yellow line is horizontal.
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:chuckle: Maybe because the bull is looking down towards the ground...?? :chuckle:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 30, 2018, 07:45:39 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on October 30, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Where your yellow line is in not exactly antler, that is the covered in hair and I would call that the skull.isn’t that the truth! But if your going to make it worth your while you might just want to kill a 400” bull :dunno: :chuckle:
If a guy can shoot bullwinkle in a spike only area I know I could get cleared for shooting this bull. :chuckle:
Post by: dscubame on October 30, 2018, 08:11:47 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on October 31, 2018, 05:52:43 AM
I think the distance has everything to do with the ruleHere's a zoom on what I'm seeing. You guys think that's within 4"? Sure seems close to me.
I put a small yellow line as an indicator.
What does that distance have to do with the rule?
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It has nothing to do with 4” from the skull. His yellow line is horizontal.
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:chuckle: Maybe because the bull is looking down towards the ground...?? :chuckle:
100% 😂😂 Apparently my spacial reasoning wasn’t on point yesterday. I still think he’s good to go.
The intent certainly was that brow tines on a spike is fine.
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Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 31, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
I mean they were busting sturgeon fisherman that were .1" over this year.
Curtis
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on October 31, 2018, 07:02:58 AM
LOL Just caught up to all these. So you guys wouldn't be concerned if that measurement ended up at 4.25"?
I mean they were busting sturgeon fisherman that were .1" over this year.
Curtis
I think it would be a pretty jacked warden who would do that. But if you’re that concerned don’t shoot. But it looks good to me! But I also don’t spike hunt...😂😂
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Post by: millerwheeler on November 07, 2018, 02:17:32 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on November 16, 2018, 09:53:38 AM
The question in this thread seems to be where to start the 4" measurement, the top of the skull plate, or the top of the pedicle?
The law doesn't mention "top of skull", the law says "point where antler attaches". Anyone who shed hunts knows that point is right below the burr at the antler base.
Looking at the OP's pics I'd say that spike has the normal tall pedicle's and that the brow points originate right above and or as part of the burr at the base of the horn.
The "yellow line" measurement looks to be to the top of the skull and goes well below the top of the pedicle. I can also see how one might think the yellow line was horizontal from antler base to antler base.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on November 25, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Post by: TVHunts on November 25, 2018, 06:35:12 PM
LOL Just caught up to all these. So you guys wouldn't be concerned if that measurement ended up at 4.25"?
I mean they were busting sturgeon fisherman that were .1" over this year.
Curtis
Well of course, that’s a fish! They don’t care much about big game! :chuckle:
Post by: pd on November 25, 2018, 07:20:51 PM
If a guy can shoot bullwinkle in a spike only area I know I could get cleared for shooting this bull. :chuckle:
You know the hunting season is nearly over when this topic comes around again.