Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 06:31:39 AM
Rules:
-photo must be your own
-photo must include a mature two point mule deer buck (4+ years)
-photo/video must be clear enough to determine age class (i.e. a fourteen inch wide, spindly two point with a "huge body" probably aint going to count)
-photo/video may not be taken in a wildlife refuge or otherwise non-huntable area
-photo/video must be taken in Washington
-photo/video must be recent (let's start off with last couple of years and go from there)
Honorable mentions are welcome for. Any controversy on age class will be turned over to @boneaddict, @Karl Blanchard or whomever else is identified as interested and trustworthy on age class.
Lastly and most important, I reserve the right to stop paying at any point over $100 :chuckle:
Post by: Kvw4x4 on November 07, 2018, 07:19:43 AM
Post by: Doublelunger on November 07, 2018, 07:31:52 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 07:37:51 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 07, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
Far from a mule deer expert but I would guess 2-3 years old?
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Thanks for the contribution!
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 07:41:12 AM
What a beautiful buck! Great picture! I'd say 2.5
Yep :yeah:
Post by: mburrows on November 07, 2018, 08:01:10 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 08:18:24 AM
This might be derailing the thread but what are some give aways that differentiate a 2.5 year old from a 3.5 or 4.5 year old buck?
Not a derail at all. Some people might say it's the point of this thread ;)
I'm far from the mule deer expert but generally speaking, long heavy bodies, hanging gut, massive neck, antler mass. Also the way a mature buck walks around is just "different"
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 08:24:45 AM
This might be derailing the thread but what are some give aways that differentiate a 2.5 year old from a 3.5 or 4.5 year old buck?It’s not an exact science and none of us are perfect. It helps if you look over more than 500 bucks a year for the last 4 decades. It becomes second nature, sorta like if you were single and checking out the ladies. You can differentiate pretty well without knowing for sure.
Post by: 7mmfan on November 07, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
Post by: mburrows on November 07, 2018, 08:34:31 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 08:45:14 AM
Like bone said, if you observe enough deer you just kind of "know" without really breaking it down. Sort of like field judging antler size
Gut, back, proportions of the body, and face and head are all tell tale signs of rough age. Its definitely not a science though. Only way you absolutely cant tell is by the antlers. Width, height, and number of points wont tell you a thing. Even mass doesnt really work. Obviously a buck with 36+ inches of mass is gonna be a mature buck but I've shot bucks over 4.5 that were on the "spindly" side.
I have a 183" buck from Colorado that was aged by fish and game at 3 5 years old. I knew he was younger but couldn't believe it.
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
Here is an example of what Karl was discussing about age and points. This a 2.5 year old buck. Most in this state would shoot him in a heartbeat. He was harvested last year at 4.5 and substantiated by a biologist. He was unreal.
At 2.5
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fstory%2520behind_zpsbdebcoqd.jpg&hash=73d4c1e6cf42fa495afd1ae20c4583431256f00d)
Post by: B4noon on November 07, 2018, 08:58:28 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 07, 2018, 08:59:28 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
Note: Still legal in this state because of his eye guard.
Post by: B4noon on November 07, 2018, 09:44:53 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 07, 2018, 09:48:52 AM
Post by: Brute on November 07, 2018, 09:52:22 AM
This could be a fun thread. Great education tool and could raise a few bucks for the site.
Like bone said, if you observe enough deer you just kind of "know" without really breaking it down. Sort of like field judging antler size
Gut, back, proportions of the body, and face and head are all tell tale signs of rough age. Its definitely not a science though. Only way you absolutely cant tell is by the antlers. Width, height, and number of points wont tell you a thing. Even mass doesnt really work. Obviously a buck with 36+ inches of mass is gonna be a mature buck but I've shot bucks over 4.5 that were on the "spindly" side.
I have a 183" buck from Colorado that was aged by fish and game at 3 5 years old. I knew he was younger but couldn't believe it.
I think this thread has opened a fantastic discussion about antlers, genetics, even weather (drought).
Here is an example of what Karl was discussing about age and points. This a 2.5 year old buck. Most in this state would shoot him in a heartbeat. He was harvested last year at 4.5 and substantiated by a biologist. He was unreal.
At 2.5
Here is a example:
As soon as I saw this guy my first thought of him was his gut hanging down.
A mature buck for sure.
Post by: kellama2001 on November 07, 2018, 10:09:14 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on November 07, 2018, 10:13:30 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 10:25:08 AM
Post by: BeWitty on November 07, 2018, 10:57:49 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Not the best picture, his Walker and oxygen tank were behind the brush, and almost needed dentures
Impressive old boy
Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 07, 2018, 11:18:50 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 11:36:22 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fbaby%2520its%2520cold_zpswtxixwr0.jpg&hash=c72a1fe909be1d6e4f9837e6672287bad0aa23a1)
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 07, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Post by: Cascade on November 07, 2018, 12:31:56 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 01:00:15 PM
Post by: Hockey21 on November 07, 2018, 04:12:39 PM
Post by: PastorJoel on November 07, 2018, 04:43:45 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 05:16:54 PM
Looks like a healthy 2.5 :tup:
Post by: daddyelk on November 07, 2018, 05:35:32 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 05:58:04 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 06:08:54 PM
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Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 06:14:28 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fthick.jpg&hash=cd293f0853ee2c21fdf6efb2378598eb62ce0e27)
Post by: Bigshooter on November 07, 2018, 06:16:31 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 06:17:48 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 06:23:36 PM
In 2012 I was hunting in NV and passed up a 28 inch wide 2pt with 4 inch eye guards. A guy camped next to me ended up killing it. NV aged it at 6.5. There was another guy camped next to us that killed a 150's 4pt. It was aged at 3.5. The 4pt's body was was huge compared to the 2pt. The 4pt was 50lbs heavier at a minimum. He also just looked older big huge wide head. Big gray nose. Big deep brisket. It just looked like a giant old buck. Maybe the 2pt had bad antler and body genetics? I just deleted a pic of the 2pt about a week ago off my computer. It's the most impressive 2pt I have ever seen.I feel you on the deletion thing. Few months back I attempted to organize pics on my phone into catagories. Long story short I ended up nuking about a decade worth of deer pics. I was able to retrieve some more current ones from friends and FB but apart of me died that day :'(
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2018, 06:28:09 PM
Don't let antler size fool ya... He ran off two different bucks triple his antler size.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2F2pturn.jpg&hash=7ca8ea31d83fa6f128c2b5fbb1d345c5ecc52631)
Post by: fishnfur on November 07, 2018, 07:00:47 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 07:07:01 PM
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 07, 2018, 07:34:24 PM
Where is he from? Here?
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 07:41:01 PM
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
That's a fantastic buck, thanks for sharing!
Where is he from? Here?
All of my pics are wa deer
Post by: Romulus1297 on November 07, 2018, 07:54:48 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 08:05:24 PM
The biggest I've seen.look at the bean on that dude :yike:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
How wide is that top buck 6haase6?28”
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 07, 2018, 08:30:39 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 07, 2018, 08:35:49 PM
kick ass deer!How wide is that top buck 6haase6?28”
Post by: 6haase6 on November 07, 2018, 08:42:45 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2018, 08:47:58 PM
Looks like Romulus might have the first $20 donation secured?
Post by: Gringo31 on November 07, 2018, 08:49:19 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 07, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
kick ass deer!How wide is that top buck 6haase6?28”
:yeah: very cool buck I love this thread so far
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 07, 2018, 08:50:03 PM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on November 08, 2018, 05:53:48 AM
Cool idea, lots of 2pts I see look good sized at first site but in reality are just that, “good sized”... not mature or destin to be a 2pt forever .. they are out there but I’m not seeing what others are claiming Of an epidemic :dunno: maybe I’m hunting the wrong areas :dunno:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 08, 2018, 07:35:34 AM
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Post by: Dan-o on November 08, 2018, 08:01:30 AM
Two point on just one side?
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Post it! :tup:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 08, 2018, 08:06:30 AM
Two point on just one side?yes it does sir. Read the rules or go back to idaho >:(
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Post by: Dan-o on November 08, 2018, 08:13:25 AM
Two point on just one side?yes it does sir. Read the rules or go back to idaho >:(
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Hey.... Just because it doesn't qualify, doesn't mean he can't post it....... :hello:
Post by: cjhaan on November 08, 2018, 11:12:49 AM
Post by: Western-Extremist on November 08, 2018, 11:41:52 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 08, 2018, 02:11:12 PM
Now gimmie my $20!!!Two point on just one side?yes it does sir. Read the rules or go back to idaho >:(
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Hey.... Just because it doesn't qualify, doesn't mean he can't post it....... :hello:
This dude was like 102 years old in deer years!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 08, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
pfff! Doesnt count! What the heck does a fish Proctologist know about deer anyways!Now gimmie my $20!!!Two point on just one side?yes it does sir. Read the rules or go back to idaho >:(
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Hey.... Just because it doesn't qualify, doesn't mean he can't post it....... :hello:
This dude was like 102 years old in deer years!!
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2018, 03:43:19 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2018, 03:49:46 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 08, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
Last three are the same buck, correct?
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2018, 04:20:50 PM
Nice, I remember those!
Last three are the same buck, correct?
All are different
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 08, 2018, 04:22:55 PM
Nice, I remember those!
Last three are the same buck, correct?
All are different
All cool bucks, thanks for sharing!
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 08, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2018, 04:28:24 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 08, 2018, 05:39:08 PM
Worth a shot.pfff! Doesnt count! What the heck does a fish Proctologist know about deer anyways!Now gimmie my $20!!!Two point on just one side?yes it does sir. Read the rules or go back to idaho >:(
Does the worlds stubbiest 1 2/8" eyeguard disqualify it?
Hey.... Just because it doesn't qualify, doesn't mean he can't post it....... :hello:
This dude was like 102 years old in deer years!!
Deer, fish...only difference I know is that my procto-instruments taste a little different after the procedure.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 09, 2018, 03:29:53 PM
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Post by: bobdog86 on November 09, 2018, 05:09:29 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2018, 08:29:25 PM
I believe I’m on the hook for $20 so far for Romulus’ entry
Post by: dvolmer on November 12, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
Post by: yorketransport on November 15, 2018, 07:22:03 PM
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Post by: boneaddict on December 15, 2018, 10:56:31 AM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on December 16, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
Big two points come from horrible genetics right........(insert sarcasm emoji here)
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Haha that's awesome and hilarious
Post by: jtd08 on December 17, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
Post by: RockChuck on December 17, 2018, 03:58:41 PM
I think this guys meets the criteria. He was trying to grow another point on his right G2, but my buddy and I both thought it was under an inch
he has not missed many meals!!!
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 18, 2018, 09:19:43 AM
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Post by: Gringo31 on January 14, 2019, 05:29:33 PM
Quote
Big two points come from horrible genetics right........(insert sarcasm emoji here)
You should see my little brother :chuckle:
Post by: NOCK NOCK on February 10, 2019, 07:23:53 PM
Post by: elkrack on February 10, 2019, 10:06:48 PM
Post by: boneaddict on February 11, 2019, 08:03:25 AM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on February 11, 2019, 08:46:56 AM
Post by: Goose Noose on February 12, 2019, 02:32:48 PM
Crappy phone/spotter pics don't do justice to the mass this guy has.....all the way out to point tips. His driver side was just starting to fork, other than that a 2 with eyeguards.
I've got pics of him too. He was a big boy 3-4 years ago. Regression hit hard.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on February 12, 2019, 04:36:47 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 12, 2019, 10:05:23 PM
I was wondering if it was that buck from a few years ago. Sure looks like the same eyeguards, but genetics are strong in that area, so could be any of several bucks.....or their relations.Sleepy Hollow buck
Post by: Jpmiller on February 13, 2019, 06:35:42 AM
Post by: boneaddict on February 13, 2019, 07:36:30 AM
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Post by: Taco280AI on December 25, 2024, 10:28:36 AM
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Post by: redi on December 25, 2024, 10:51:52 AM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on December 25, 2024, 11:42:07 AM
A few more...Pretty sure I have the right side off the buck in the snow, he is a beast. From quite a few years ago, if I remember right his base is around 7” above the burr. I’ll see if I can get a picture
Post by: Hairhunter on December 25, 2024, 02:53:26 PM
Largest weighed weight I have heard of, field dressed with feet attached.
Post by: redi on December 25, 2024, 03:21:36 PM
Post by: boneaddict on December 25, 2024, 05:01:55 PM
This guy was posted a couple years ago.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/boneaddict/bucks2/superfork_zpsy2iaf0iw.jpg)
Post by: hunter399 on December 25, 2024, 05:13:51 PM
Beast blacktail!You guys sure know how to make a guy drool over a forky.🤤
This guy was posted a couple years ago.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/boneaddict/bucks2/superfork_zpsy2iaf0iw.jpg)
Post by: Limhangerslayer on December 25, 2024, 07:17:21 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 25, 2024, 07:20:56 PM
Two bucks my daughter shot in the Yakima area. One was general, the big 2 with eye guards. The other was on a landowner any buck permit. The slick 2 is confirmed 4.5 years old. Never legal in a 3 point minimum unit.
That slick two is super cool.👍
Post by: Limhangerslayer on December 25, 2024, 07:40:39 PM
He is! This was him the year earlier on trail cam.Two bucks my daughter shot in the Yakima area. One was general, the big 2 with eye guards. The other was on a landowner any buck permit. The slick 2 is confirmed 4.5 years old. Never legal in a 3 point minimum unit.
That slick two is super cool.👍
Post by: duckmen1 on December 25, 2024, 08:29:37 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 25, 2024, 10:57:23 PM
I absolutely love big 2 point mule deer bucks. The kind that are old and will never be more. Just like I love big 5 point mature elk over 300 inches that will never be 6 points. If I find a big 2 point I will hunt him hard if I can. Very unique and pretty rare too. They have their own character about them. I have harvested three of them over the years. 26 inch wide, 24 inch wide, and 23 inch wide. They are true trophies for me and I love them like my big 4 points.
I love them as well.👍
Post by: MeepDog on December 26, 2024, 09:31:04 AM
I absolutely love big 2 point mule deer bucks. The kind that are old and will never be more. Just like I love big 5 point mature elk over 300 inches that will never be 6 points. If I find a big 2 point I will hunt him hard if I can. Very unique and pretty rare too. They have their own character about them. I have harvested three of them over the years. 26 inch wide, 24 inch wide, and 23 inch wide. They are true trophies for me and I love them like my big 4 points.I had a chance this year in the late season at an older 2x2 with no eye guards, but he had a big sticker coming out of his base long enough to be a legal point. He’s definitely 3.5 years old at the bare minimum. It’s possible he won’t be legal next year if he doesn’t grow another sticker.
Post by: crabcreekhunter on December 26, 2024, 06:46:57 PM
Post by: ASHQUACK on December 26, 2024, 08:44:28 PM
Post by: TimberMuleys on December 28, 2024, 08:50:31 PM
Thoughts on age for this deer? I was thinking maybe 4.5.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 29, 2024, 08:10:57 AM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 21, 2025, 07:41:23 PM
This is really cool thread. Here is one from last year. Karl might recognize this area :)I think he sprouted a back fork this year :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 21, 2025, 07:45:42 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 21, 2025, 09:51:32 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 22, 2025, 12:53:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 22, 2025, 01:00:28 PM
I need to pony up a few bucks to the forum I think. If I recall correctly I made this thread after reading a slew of comments from guys who couldn't find legal bucks but were wading through mature 2 points and I felt like being a smart azz.I mean, not a ton of money. There's only like 3 mature true 2x2's posted. Your assumption wasn't wrong.
Post by: kramman on January 22, 2025, 04:17:58 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 22, 2025, 04:30:01 PM
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