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Title: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: jackelope on November 16, 2018, 10:11:14 AM
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http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/nov/15/house-of-representatives-to-vote-on-gray-wolf-deli/
Title: Re: House vote delists wolves
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 16, 2018, 10:16:51 AM
Hopefully, they can get this done in the next 30 days.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: wolfbait on November 16, 2018, 10:50:47 AM
Gray wolf population could lose federal protection under GOP bill

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article221647280.html
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Ice Cap on November 16, 2018, 11:09:30 AM
If it clears the senate without modifications, it is protected from any future judicial review!
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 16, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
If it clears the senate without modifications, it is protected from any future judicial review!

...unless it's unconstitutional.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 16, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
 :IBCOOL: I can't wait. :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 16, 2018, 12:19:22 PM
:IBCOOL: I can't wait. :IBCOOL:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 16, 2018, 12:20:20 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: KFhunter on November 16, 2018, 12:25:14 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: bornhunter on November 16, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: boneaddict on November 16, 2018, 01:35:35 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Cougartail on November 16, 2018, 02:07:40 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.

 :yeah: It's only good news in States that are hunter friendly..
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Special T on November 16, 2018, 02:14:37 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.

 :yeah: It's only good news in States that are hunter friendly..

It also means that despite being at odds with Tribes over issues this may be one way to push back on the state..  I would hope many of us would have a Native on speed dial when we found them.  :twocents:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Jake Dogfish on November 16, 2018, 03:10:19 PM
None of the Washington Democrats voted for it.  Good thing they rammed it through while they still could!
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Ice Cap on November 16, 2018, 03:40:55 PM
If it clears the senate without modifications, it is protected from any future judicial review!

...unless it's unconstitutional.
Can't be found unconstitutional as that would take judicial review!
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: jasnt on November 16, 2018, 03:44:25 PM
 :IBCOOL:    :whoo: :whoo:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: nwwanderer on November 16, 2018, 04:24:12 PM
Time to pester the senate, anybody able to get in our senators doors, not me, should. 
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 16, 2018, 04:46:10 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.

 :yeah: It's only good news in States that are hunter friendly..

It also means that despite being at odds with Tribes over issues this may be one way to push back on the state..  I would hope many of us would have a Native on speed dial when we found them.  :twocents:

Smart man. :yeah:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Special T on November 16, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.

 :yeah: It's only good news in States that are hunter friendly..

It also means that despite being at odds with Tribes over issues this may be one way to push back on the state..  I would hope many of us would have a Native on speed dial when we found them.  :twocents:

Smart man. :yeah:
This topic is full of irony in this regard. Some kind of management may be possible for the very same reasons why there is emotional disagreement.

Could you imagine the heads exploding  when SCI sets up aerial gunning of wolves with Plat hanging out the window with an AR 15?

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Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: jackelope on November 16, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
A lot of areas have already been de-listed federally and already under state management;  NE Washington is under states management, look what that gets us  :bash:

Still, I applaud this bill.

 :yeah: It's only good news in States that are hunter friendly..

It also means that despite being at odds with Tribes over issues this may be one way to push back on the state..  I would hope many of us would have a Native on speed dial when we found them.  :twocents:

Smart man. :yeah:
This topic is full of irony in this regard. Some kind of management may be possible for the very same reasons why there is emotional disagreement.

Could you imagine the heads exploding  when SCI sets up aerial gunning of wolves with Plat hanging out the window with an AR 15?

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I’ll buy some fuel.






Or ammo.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 16, 2018, 09:52:25 PM
Aerial pig hunting down south is on my list but now I can varmint aerial hunt here in Wa. Soon. :IBCOOL: :rockin: :whoo: :llam: :hunt2: :bfg: :mgun2: :guns: :mgun: :hunter:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: PA BEN on November 20, 2018, 06:41:58 PM
http://www.capitalpress.com/Livestock/20181120/house-wolf-debate-features-or-7-wsu-idiots?fbclid=IwAR1_WasqtJCFDMmCwMcTiIOmBqHBxO7F6OpiAGV_RF_PgRtu1v6eV5buqX8#.W_R273GE5Fc.facebook
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: nwwanderer on November 21, 2018, 08:06:33 AM
WDFW asked for the delisting, twice.  Patty and Maria need a little push from Jay, Kelly could ask politely for an audience.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: lamrith on November 21, 2018, 08:15:03 AM
Not sure what it matters if they are delisted.  Still have WDFW to deal with and they will not open the gates.  Fact is that in the areas the wolves are causing the most damage here in WA they are already delisted per the article, yet nothing has been done in state to balance things.

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The House, still controlled by Republicans for a few more weeks, voted 196-180 to pass H.R. 6784. The measure would strip wolves of federal protection in California, and the western two-thirds of Oregon and Washington. Wolves already have been de-listed in Idaho and the eastern one-third of Oregon and Washington..
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2018, 08:34:08 AM
Time to pester the senate, anybody able to get in our senators doors, not me, should.

You know who our senators are, right?
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: wolfbait on November 21, 2018, 05:35:35 PM
WDFW asked for the delisting, twice.  Patty and Maria need a little push from Jay, Kelly could ask politely for an audience.

If I remember right WDFW were in favor of culling wolves after their environmental partners filed a lawsuit to stop any culling. To date there hasn't been any positive wolf predation management. Taking a wolf or two out of a pack that is killing livestock has never worked, and they know this.

Years ago some of the "town dogs" would pack-up at night and chase deer, shooting a few never seem to cure the problem, not that we were experimenting, it just took a little longer to get the whole bunch as they seemed to get pretty weary sneaking back into town.

Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Jake Dogfish on November 21, 2018, 06:24:15 PM
I do think delisting would make a difference.  It would at least change our current wolf plan, where we are waiting for the wolves to move west.
I doubt Murray would go for delisting.  Maybe Cantwell as she seems slightly less partisan than Murray and just got re-elected.  :twocents:
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 21, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
If it is a democrap sponsored bill it will never be found unconstitutional.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 25, 2018, 12:36:43 PM
Hey I am .1024 Indian so therefore I can go about shooting them I guess. If it's good enough for Elizabeth Warren its good enough for me
 
Plus I identify myself as a man made democrap so m entitled to take any wolves I see.
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: wolfbait on November 25, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Hey I am .1024 Indian so therefore I can go about shooting them I guess. If it's good enough for Elizabeth Warren its good enough for me
 
Plus I identify myself as a man made democrap so m entitled to take any wolves I see.

Well that's great news, PM me and I will point you in a direction where you can get started tomorrow :tup:. Are you going to be huntin with the bow and arrow or a spear?
Title: Re: House votes to delist wolves
Post by: Scheindogg on November 25, 2018, 03:16:23 PM
I wish me literally being 1/32 Native American meant I could just hunt whatever whenever  :tung:
But it doesn’t  :rolleyes:  :'(  :chuckle:
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