Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 11:36:23 AM
Post by: grundy53 on November 26, 2018, 01:24:58 PM
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Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 01:32:54 PM
I look at my points figure out where I'm most likely or certain to draw then figure out what I really want to hunt. Right now I'm in that process. Of course getting lucky and hitting a low odds draw puts a huge monkey wrench in all the planning. Like when I drew my moose tag this year. Had to change plans. But that's a good problem to have.
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That is another wrinkle in the decision process is do you throw out long shots in some states and better draw odds in others...? what if you draw multiple... or none...? These are all things we are tossing around
Post by: idaho guy on November 26, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 26, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 02:38:41 PM
Put weeks on the vacation calendar then apply based on those time periods. If you want to actually get tags and hunt and not just plan for someday down the road you gotta throw as many darts (I have all the darts :chuckle:) at the wall as you can and a few are bound to stick. Monkey wrenches happen but if you are smart about how you apply it's a minor issue. Drawing tags is the hard part, figuring out how to sneak them in isn't so much. I pulled an unexpected NV tag this year but because I only applied for hunts that fell within my allotted time frames I was able to make it work. Did I have to hunt idaho AND Nevada in the same week? Yes. But where there is a will there is a way.
For me, I pretty much can take as much of september and first week or so of october off then I have to be home for work until the 20th of November then open again for a week or two. I agree that I need to just start throwing my points at different hunts and deal with the outcome when the drawings are run.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 26, 2018, 02:44:43 PM
I get that some people want to save some points and get a more "quality" tag. For me I just wanna hunt. I feel my odds of a big deer are gonna come from a tag that has good top end potential that i know well because I've hunted it multiple times. I've had some real lemons but I've also scored some solid producing hunts that i can do every single year.
Out of state hunting for me is a long term investment. I'm not looking for the hunt of a lifetime, I'm looking for 30 more seasons worth of adventure :IBCOOL:
Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 02:48:23 PM
Those are pretty solid time periods with a pile of good options. Definitely not a bad place to be.
I get that some people want to save some points and get a more "quality" tag. For me I just wanna hunt. I feel my odds of a big deer are gonna come from a tag that has good top end potential that i know well because I've hunted it multiple times. I've had some real lemons but I've also scored some solid producing hunts that i can do every single year.
Out of state hunting for me is a long term investment. I'm not looking for the hunt of a lifetime, I'm looking for 30 more seasons worth of adventure :IBCOOL:
I concur with those statements. Hunting every year, especially with my old man getting older, is most important. Do you guys that use the gohunt insider think its worth the cost?
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 26, 2018, 02:59:41 PM
Take this with a giant grain of salt...... My expereince has been by the time it hits those pages its old news, or at the very best on borrowed time and very long shot draw odds. I agree with Karl..... I shoot for higher draw odds areas and or areas I can hunt OTC and go from there. I have heard good things about gohunt, But mainly from guys looking to profit from pushing it. However I would also like to hear firsthand reviews from real users. :tup:
Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 03:12:30 PM
Take this with a giant grain of salt...... My expereince has been by the time it hits those pages its old news, or at the very best on borrowed time and very long shot draw odds. I agree with Karl..... I shoot for higher draw odds areas and or areas I can hunt OTC and go from there. I have heard good things about gohunt, But mainly from guys looking to profit from pushing it. However I would also like to hear firsthand reviews from real users. :tup:
I agree, its kind of like a hot stock tip. I was just looking at it more for statistical data and ease of keeping draw dates and all that in order.
Post by: grundy53 on November 26, 2018, 03:44:17 PM
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Post by: grade-creek-rd on November 26, 2018, 04:13:37 PM
http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/17/planning-an-out-of-state-hunt.aspx
Grade
Post by: vandeman17 on November 26, 2018, 04:13:53 PM
Also, it really helps coordinate draws. They list all of the western states application deadlines and draw dates. For example I know I can put in for Utah and Nevada and wait to put in for Wyoming and Idaho until after Utah and Nevada post their results.
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All what you said is exactly why I am looking into it. I want just some concise info to help me plan it all out and let the draws happen as they may
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 26, 2018, 04:21:39 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on November 26, 2018, 04:29:34 PM
First one is look at my pts in preference point states and see if there is anything I can draw with my pts. If there is then I usually set my hunting season up around this hunt. I usually only do 2 out of state hunts A year. But if the tag gods are kind I have done up to 4 hunts. So planning around the preference point tag that I should get I usually apply for about half hard to draw tags and half middle of the road tags to try and get a 2nd tag. So maybe I get lucky and draw a hard to draw tag but more than likely get one of the middle of the road tags for a 2nd tag.
Now if I don't have preference points to use. I usually try and get an easy to draw MT tag and if that fails an otc ID tag. And then I apply for 75% middle of the road tags and 25% hard to draw tags. Because I want to get A 2nd tag that might still be really good.
If I don't draw a 2nd tag then it's usually whitetails in ID.
This has worked really well for me. I almost always have 2 out of state hunts doing it this way.
Post by: grundy53 on November 26, 2018, 05:43:07 PM
To each their own, but I like the idea of being successful and having a good time over shooting a "book" animal but it's expensive and stressful...here are some tips about planning an out of state hunt:I'm probably the world's worst trophy hunter :chuckle: . I just like seeing new places and having a good time. Plus anywhere I go is probably going to be better than Washington. Heck half the fun is the researching and planning.
http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/17/planning-an-out-of-state-hunt.aspx
Grade
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Post by: Antlershed on November 26, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on November 29, 2018, 07:41:19 AM
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Post by: go4steelhd on December 02, 2018, 11:14:38 AM
Grab a calendar mark off how many days you can hunt on tags you can more than likely get.
Then put in for stuff that is impossible to draw. Then adjust if you draw an excellent tag.
My 2019 looks like:
Antelope- In Oregon with my dad. I have 2 more points than what is needed to draw so this is 99.9%
Deer-Region G in Wyoming as long as the winter is not horrible. I have a few more points than needed to draw. 100% draw unless I back out. Montana general with a point 99.9%
Elk- Wyoming 50/50 draw odds with my points. If I don’t draw in WY / put in for Oregon 15% odds with point class
Then I put in for ultra hard units knowing I have points to draw a few hunts listed above. And get preference points all over.
If everything above falls through go OTC archery or rifle some where.
Like Karl said go hunt instead of waiting for a once in a life time draw tag. Most of my trophies have come from areas I can hunt every year or every other year. And I have hit a few tags with like 1/1000 draw odds over the last 20 years to.
Post by: bornhunter on December 02, 2018, 02:11:11 PM
There are two services that I hate with all my heart and soul but you couldn't pry from my cold dead hands and that is Onyx and go hunt. They have changed the game immensely. Used to have to do all this stuff the hard way and it kept the barrier-to-entry somewhat High because people either didn't know how to navigate land ownership and draw odds and whatnot or were too lazy to learn. They have made it basically dummy proof to get tags and go hunt. A lot of the easier to draw tags or over-the-counter stuff where that way because they took some MacGyver in. With that said they've saved me a lot of man-hours and a lot of headache :chuckle:
Not being an onyx user, how does it help with planning?
Post by: ljsommer on December 02, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Oh and beer, I'll be stocking up on beer to nurse my third year of wounded pride.
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 02, 2018, 09:31:06 PM
2. Gain a point in Colorado for deer
3. OTC Archery early and late Idaho (2 tags). Apply for rifle rut tag
4. OTC Archery Wa Deer. Apply for tough to draw hunt
5. Hunt elk during downtime with archery
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Post by: bornhunter on December 02, 2018, 09:42:02 PM
1. Shoot for the moon in Utah...Archery Tag
2. Gain a point in Colorado for deer
3. OTC Archery early and late Idaho (2 tags). Apply for rifle rut tag
4. OTC Archery Wa Deer. Apply for tough to draw hunt
5. Hunt elk during downtime with archery
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Got the Dutton archery twice in a row. What a hunt? First year 341 7x6 next year nice 5x5. Utah rocks for archery bulls.
Post by: bornhunter on December 02, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
To each their own, but I like the idea of being successful and having a good time over shooting a "book" animal but it's expensive and stressful...here are some tips about planning an out of state hunt:I'm probably the world's worst trophy hunter :chuckle: . I just like seeing new places and having a good time. Plus anywhere I go is probably going to be better than Washington. Heck half the fun is the researching and planning.
http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/17/planning-an-out-of-state-hunt.aspx
Grade
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:yeah:
Post by: theleo on December 03, 2018, 07:44:33 AM
Post by: ljsommer on December 03, 2018, 08:06:28 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 03, 2018, 08:44:57 AM
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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Post by: vandeman17 on December 03, 2018, 08:51:17 AM
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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:yeah: It is significantly more expensive but worth it. I pretty much only hunt birds in WA anymore. I didn't hunt elk at all and hunted half a day for deer after I got my buddy his first buck.
Post by: ljsommer on December 03, 2018, 08:52:52 AM
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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:yeah: It is significantly more expensive but worth it. I pretty much only hunt birds in WA anymore. I didn't hunt elk at all and hunted half a day for deer after I got my buddy his first buck.
Geeze that's depressing. Out of curiosity, for those with families how do you swing out of state hunting? The time investment seems really significant.
Post by: mburrows on December 03, 2018, 09:12:11 AM
Figure out how much the hunt you want to go on will cost and consider gas, tag expenses, lodging/food/gear requirements then put money into an account or shoe box on a weekly or monthly basis. That helped me better absorb the costs of going out of state. Give yourself a 10% cushion as well to cover unexpected trip costs.
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 03, 2018, 09:17:26 AM
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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:yeah: It is significantly more expensive but worth it. I pretty much only hunt birds in WA anymore. I didn't hunt elk at all and hunted half a day for deer after I got my buddy his first buck.
Geeze that's depressing. Out of curiosity, for those with families how do you swing out of state hunting? The time investment seems really significant.
I hunt the cheapest out of state elk option....and it just happens to be the closest. If you're on the fence about out of state...take a look at harvest stats and ask yourself how you would like to spend your hunting season......
Post by: vandeman17 on December 03, 2018, 09:20:20 AM
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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:yeah: It is significantly more expensive but worth it. I pretty much only hunt birds in WA anymore. I didn't hunt elk at all and hunted half a day for deer after I got my buddy his first buck.
Geeze that's depressing. Out of curiosity, for those with families how do you swing out of state hunting? The time investment seems really significant.
I don't got out to eat more than a few times per year, don't go to movies, don't buy coffee etc. Point is, I make out of state hunting a priority and I save money accordingly. As for vacation, I am similar in that I don't really take time off besides one trip in the spring to get away from the snow. Other than that, my vacation is ear marked for hunting trips.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2018, 09:54:47 AM
Like others have said, if it's a priority to you
, then you budget for it and you make it happen. You're not getting any younger and you never know when tomorrow may never come so quit talking about it and go do it!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 03, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
Whether you take a week off to hunt deer in Washington or a week off to hunt deer in Idaho you are still gone a week so that is a mute point. You don't have to stay in a hotel, you don't have to eat out at restaurants, and if you take a partner you're splitting gas. If you eliminate the cost of the tag the hunt itself isn't that much more expensive. I would be willing to bet most guys spend more for a week at Elk camp then I do out of state. I've seen the camp setups and food menu's guys post on here. Hundreds of dollars just in food! I'll be $80 tops into a 9 day hunt for food and honestly I don't even think that food cost is a factor in a hunt since whether you are at home or on the mountain you are still going to consume groceries. Really the only expense that is valid is fuel and tag costs.
Like others have said, if it's a priority to you
, then you budget for it and you make it happen. You're not getting any younger and you never know when tomorrow may never come so quit talking about it and go do it!
Well said by the shiny head! :yeah:
Unless you go with coach, then he likes to stop for coffees and snacks all the time and loves eating out. :chuckle:
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 03, 2018, 12:29:26 PM
I take my kids with me. I don’t get crazy with it. I usually concentrate on three yearly deer tags.I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.
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:yeah: It is significantly more expensive but worth it. I pretty much only hunt birds in WA anymore. I didn't hunt elk at all and hunted half a day for deer after I got my buddy his first buck.
Geeze that's depressing. Out of curiosity, for those with families how do you swing out of state hunting? The time investment seems really significant.
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 03, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
There are two services that I hate with all my heart and soul but you couldn't pry from my cold dead hands and that is Onyx and go hunt. They have changed the game immensely. Used to have to do all this stuff the hard way and it kept the barrier-to-entry somewhat High because people either didn't know how to navigate land ownership and draw odds and whatnot or were too lazy to learn. They have made it basically dummy proof to get tags and go hunt. A lot of the easier to draw tags or over-the-counter stuff where that way because they took some MacGyver in. With that said they've saved me a lot of man-hours and a lot of headache :chuckle:
Not being an onyx user, how does it help with planning?
In my experience just being able to quickly get a glance at public/private interface before deciding whether a unit is worth applying for. All those units in Wyoming with the little asterisk about limited access, OnX maps will help you determine if a unit has enough access to apply and then navigate it once you are there. My cousin and I took 2 buck antelope in 2 days from a 2nd choice limited access antelope unit in Wyoming this year. Never could’ve done that without OnX
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Post by: Ryans71 on December 04, 2018, 11:28:59 AM
I'm probably the world's worst trophy hunter :chuckle: . I just like seeing new places and having a good time. Plus anywhere I go is probably going to be better than Washington. Heck half the fun is the researching and planning.
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Haha.....as I was reading this thread I was thinking the same thing. 100% agree.
Post by: bornhunter on December 04, 2018, 11:38:35 AM
There are two services that I hate with all my heart and soul but you couldn't pry from my cold dead hands and that is Onyx and go hunt. They have changed the game immensely. Used to have to do all this stuff the hard way and it kept the barrier-to-entry somewhat High because people either didn't know how to navigate land ownership and draw odds and whatnot or were too lazy to learn. They have made it basically dummy proof to get tags and go hunt. A lot of the easier to draw tags or over-the-counter stuff where that way because they took some MacGyver in. With that said they've saved me a lot of man-hours and a lot of headache :chuckle:
Not being an onyx user, how does it help with planning?
In my experience just being able to quickly get a glance at public/private interface before deciding whether a unit is worth applying for. All those units in Wyoming with the little asterisk about limited access, OnX maps will help you determine if a unit has enough access to apply and then navigate it once you are there. My cousin and I took 2 buck antelope in 2 days from a 2nd choice limited access antelope unit in Wyoming this year. Never could’ve done that without OnX
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You should get a commission. I just ordered OnX.
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 04, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
100% agree. I just like chasing mule deer and there aren’t enough tags offered here in Washington for me...I'm probably the world's worst trophy hunter :chuckle: . I just like seeing new places and having a good time. Plus anywhere I go is probably going to be better than Washington. Heck half the fun is the researching and planning.
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Haha.....as I was reading this thread I was thinking the same thing. 100% agree.
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Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2018, 12:14:16 AM
Whether you take a week off to hunt deer in Washington or a week off to hunt deer in Idaho you are still gone a week so that is a mute point.
You do mean "moot" point right Karl? ;)
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 05, 2018, 07:54:36 AM
:chuckle:talk to text strikes againWhether you take a week off to hunt deer in Washington or a week off to hunt deer in Idaho you are still gone a week so that is a mute point.
You do mean "moot" point right Karl? ;)
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 05, 2018, 08:00:07 AM
She even asked what “must have gear” I need to plan for. New bow here I come!
Post by: jjhunter on December 05, 2018, 09:18:12 AM
I did book my trip to the Expo in Feb so maybe that will break me out of my depression. :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2018, 09:56:41 AM
:chuckle: talk to text strikes againWhether you take a week off to hunt deer in Washington or a week off to hunt deer in Idaho you are still gone a week so that is a mute point.
You do mean "moot" point right Karl? ;)
@jjhunter
:chuckle:
I’m so beat down from 2018, I’m gonna need a couple of months to heal before I think about 2019.
I did book my trip to the Expo in Feb so maybe that will break me out of my depression. :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on December 05, 2018, 12:36:32 PM
I’m so beat down from 2018, I’m gonna need a couple of months to heal before I think about 2019.:chuckle: :brew:
I did book my trip to the Expo in Feb so maybe that will break me out of my depression. :chuckle:
Post by: Brushbuster on December 05, 2018, 01:14:35 PM
Hoping for CO Elk, OR Antelope & MT Deer. Lots of points but who knows. :dunno:
As a backup, I already went in & bought an ID elk tag. At least I can rifle hunt/camp in Sept for rutting Bulls. :hunter:
Post by: ljsommer on December 05, 2018, 01:47:44 PM
It's all in the hands of the tag gods. But I'll be going somewhere fun & can't wait. :chuckle:
Hoping for CO Elk, OR Antelope & MT Deer. Lots of points but who knows. :dunno:
As a backup, I already went in & bought an ID elk tag. At least I can rifle hunt/camp in Sept for rutting Bulls. :hunter:
Wait, you can buy ID elk tags *now* for 2019, and their modern season is during the rut? Is this OTC?
Post by: Brushbuster on December 05, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
It's all in the hands of the tag gods. But I'll be going somewhere fun & can't wait. :chuckle:
Hoping for CO Elk, OR Antelope & MT Deer. Lots of points but who knows. :dunno:
As a backup, I already went in & bought an ID elk tag. At least I can rifle hunt/camp in Sept for rutting Bulls. :hunter:
Wait, you can buy ID elk tags *now* for 2019, and their modern season is during the rut? Is this OTC?
Yes they went on sale Sat Dec 1st. Here is the link letting you know tag availability:
https://idfg.idaho.gov/tag/quotas-nonresident
I missed out last year for an elk tag so didn't want to take any chances this year. Two elk zones sold out in the 1st 45 minutes this year. Other zones will take longer but I wouldn't wait too long.
Some mountain areas open Sept 15th OTC rifle.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 05, 2018, 03:38:50 PM
to add to this a bit....they open early for a reason. These are difficult units with aggressive terrain so purchase wisely :twocents:It's all in the hands of the tag gods. But I'll be going somewhere fun & can't wait. :chuckle:
Hoping for CO Elk, OR Antelope & MT Deer. Lots of points but who knows. :dunno:
As a backup, I already went in & bought an ID elk tag. At least I can rifle hunt/camp in Sept for rutting Bulls. :hunter:
Wait, you can buy ID elk tags *now* for 2019, and their modern season is during the rut? Is this OTC?
Yes they went on sale Sat Dec 1st. Here is the link letting you know tag availability:
https://idfg.idaho.gov/tag/quotas-nonresident
I missed out last year for an elk tag so didn't want to take any chances this year. Two elk zones sold out in the 1st 45 minutes this year. Other zones will take longer but I wouldn't wait too long.
Some mountain areas open Sept 15th OTC rifle.
Post by: jstone on December 06, 2018, 02:42:28 PM
Montana deer hunting first of November time
Quality late archery deer hunting thanksgiving
Post by: X-Force on December 06, 2018, 02:56:46 PM
Quality archery elk tag September
Montana deer hunting first of November time
Quality late archery deer hunting thanksgiving
Ambitious. I like it!
Post by: vandeman17 on December 06, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 06, 2018, 03:05:57 PM
Spent my lunch doing some wyoming research. I like that for elk, we get the results by the end of February so that helps a bunch.I think I heard they are changing the elk application date to end of May this year
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Post by: Bigshooter on December 06, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
Spent my lunch doing some wyoming research. I like that for elk, we get the results by the end of February so that helps a bunch.I think I heard they are changing the elk application date to end of May this year
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Isn't going to change until next year.
Post by: vandeman17 on December 06, 2018, 03:12:52 PM
Spent my lunch doing some wyoming research. I like that for elk, we get the results by the end of February so that helps a bunch.I think I heard they are changing the elk application date to end of May this year
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Isn't going to change until next year.
well shoot, i better draw this year
Post by: mburrows on December 07, 2018, 07:44:53 AM
I will have 13 qualitie elk and deer points.
You are due!
Post by: X-Force on December 07, 2018, 10:47:58 AM
I will have 13 qualitie elk and deer points.
After the 2018 draw there are roughly 3550 people with 13 or more points for 2019 in quality elk and they will have a total of 904,165 squared points.
There were only 860 quality elk permits last year and 25,000 people applied for them.
There were only 895 quality deer permits last year and 22,000 people applied for them.
Even with 13 points its not a "give me."
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Post by: jstone on December 07, 2018, 03:24:33 PM
Post by: Brushbuster on December 07, 2018, 03:30:28 PM
What states can you put in for points and not buy the license and tags?
My guess is Wyoming but the points cost $$.
Post by: jstone on December 07, 2018, 03:50:47 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on December 07, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
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Post by: Dhoey07 on December 18, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 18, 2018, 12:45:14 PM
I think New Mexico you don't have to buy a license to put in :dunno:gotta front the full species cost. You get all but $20 back if unsuccessful in the draw.
Post by: idahohuntr on December 18, 2018, 12:52:46 PM
This year I have enough points for a Utah muzzleloader tag to hunt with my uncle and cousins. I plan on tacking on a Wyoming antelope hunt after and ill be done for the year. I put in for Utah bull elk in the beaver unit and also henry mountains. I know the henry's is unlikely but hopefully down the road ill be able to pull a tag and experience a trophy mule deer unit. I'm also looking into starting the point process for a coues deer hunt in southern AZ. I have a cousin there that knows the area well. If I can punch the muzzleloader tag on a Utah buck this year ill be extremely happy.That Beaver elk tag would be awesome. I was down there deer hunting this year and while I know its a top tier elk unit...I was still blown away by the number of bulls...you can't swing a dead cat in that unit without hitting a 300+ bull!!
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 19, 2018, 05:57:05 AM
I think New Mexico you don't have to buy a license to put in :dunno:Have to buy a $65 license but they refund your license if you choose and you don’t draw. They keep application fees
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Post by: huntnnw on December 20, 2018, 01:35:10 AM
Whether you take a week off to hunt deer in Washington or a week off to hunt deer in Idaho you are still gone a week so that is a moot point. You don't have to stay in a hotel, you don't have to eat out at restaurants, and if you take a partner you're splitting gas. If you eliminate the cost of the tag the hunt itself isn't that much more expensive. I would be willing to bet most guys spend more for a week at Elk camp then I do out of state. I've seen the camp setups and food menu's guys post on here. Hundreds of dollars just in food! I'll be $80 tops into a 9 day hunt for food and honestly I don't even think that food cost is a factor in a hunt since whether you are at home or on the mountain you are still going to consume groceries. Really the only expense that is valid is fuel and tag costs.
Like others have said, if it's a priority to you
, then you budget for it and you make it happen. You're not getting any younger and you never know when tomorrow may never come so quit talking about it and go do it!
exaclty! all about priorities in life. Hunting for me isn't a hobby or something I just do on the weekends its 24/7 and most of the year consumed with it. I was married 16 years ago and divorced and told myself never again with someone that doesn't support /join me or there's the door life is too short to be limited to what your passion is.
I eat far cheaper hunting in a week than I do at home that is for sure! States that are to far to scout I have realized even with the high cost of the tag its still cheaper for me than some of the animals I chase in WA :chuckle: Whitetails in particular for me is costly! running cams, batteries, fuel checking those cams, feed, and time it adds up to alot! hundreds
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 10, 2019, 08:15:37 AM
I think New Mexico you don't have to buy a license to put in :dunno:Have to buy a $65 license but they refund your license if you choose and you don’t draw. They keep application fees
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Are you sure? That's what i thought until I read this, "Application Requirements
When applying for draw licenses for Barbary sheep, bighorn sheep, deer, elk, ibex, javelina, oryx and
pronghorn, hunters must purchase a nonrefundable 2019–20 Game-hunting License or Game-hunting & Fishing License and HMAV if applicable."
Is that a change for 2019?
Post by: vandeman17 on January 10, 2019, 08:22:15 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 10, 2019, 08:31:12 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 10, 2019, 08:35:20 AM
I'm pumped about moving it out of January! Too much commitment too early in the process :chuckle:
You have officially lost your mind. :chuckle:
Post by: CaNINE on January 10, 2019, 08:41:53 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 10, 2019, 09:04:53 AM
:chuckle: no way! Elk are big dumb stinky animals who ALWAYS take back seat to the all mighty mule deer! Committing to an elk hunt too early could possibly jeopardizes deer hunt or hinder the versatility of ones application strategy 8)I'm pumped about moving it out of January! Too much commitment too early in the process :chuckle:
You have officially lost your mind. :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2019, 10:06:33 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 11, 2019, 09:36:08 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 11, 2019, 11:14:25 AM
Must be, I’ve always understood the New Mexico license to be fully refundable but not the application fees.I think New Mexico you don't have to buy a license to put in :dunno:Have to buy a $65 license but they refund your license if you choose and you don’t draw. They keep application fees
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Are you sure? That's what i thought until I read this, "Application Requirements
When applying for draw licenses for Barbary sheep, bighorn sheep, deer, elk, ibex, javelina, oryx and
pronghorn, hunters must purchase a nonrefundable 2019–20 Game-hunting License or Game-hunting & Fishing License and HMAV if applicable."
Is that a change for 2019?
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Post by: KFhunter on January 11, 2019, 11:19:41 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on January 11, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 11, 2019, 11:46:39 AM
thanks for saving me from that shocker this year during the application process