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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2018, 04:29:34 PM »
I have been apply out of state in multiple states for 15 years now and I have 2 approaches. 

First one is look at my pts in preference point states and see if there is anything I can draw with my pts.  If there is then I usually set my hunting season up around this hunt.  I usually only do 2 out of state hunts A year.  But if the tag gods are kind I have done up to 4 hunts.  So planning around the preference point tag that I should get I usually apply for about half hard to draw tags and half middle of the road tags to try and get a 2nd tag.  So maybe I get lucky and draw a hard to draw tag but more than likely get one of the middle of the road tags for a 2nd tag. 

Now if I don't have preference points to use.  I usually try and get an easy to draw MT tag and if that fails an otc ID tag.  And then I apply for 75% middle of the road tags and 25% hard to draw tags.  Because I want to get A 2nd tag that might still be really good.   

If I don't draw a 2nd tag then it's usually whitetails in ID.

This has worked really well for me.  I almost always have 2 out of state hunts doing it this way.
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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2018, 05:43:07 PM »
To each their own, but I like the idea of being successful and having a good time over shooting a "book" animal but it's expensive and stressful...here are some tips about planning an out of state hunt:

http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/17/planning-an-out-of-state-hunt.aspx

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2018, 06:06:27 PM »
I’ve been building points in Colorado and Wyoming to the point that I could draw some of the lower tier units that look good on paper, it’s just committing and doing it when I’m flying solo with limited vacation. This year was my first ever out of state hunt. Finally got talked into buying an OTC deer and Elk tag in Idaho and had very good luck. Trying to decide if I can sneak in an Idaho hunt and another mule deer hunt in 2019. I’ll still apply in WA because I have too many points to quit, but I don’t plan anything around actually drawing a tag in WA.

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2018, 07:41:19 AM »
I think my 2019 plan is going to be to apply for a moose tag with moderately tough odds here in Idaho, try and pull the same 2nd choice lope tag in Wyoming, buy points everywhere(I only apply for WY deer/antelope, MT antelope, SD deer, Nevada everything, probably add Arizona this year) else except Nevada because if I apply for hunts on the northern border I can hunt those units pretty easily. Still haven’t decided where I’m going to be hunting here in Idaho for deer and elk yet this next year, probably going to use spring bear season this year to explore some new areas for fall hunts. Right now my kids are at an age where it is difficult to get away too much without the wife going crazy so I’m mostly building toward the future right now


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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2018, 08:08:43 AM »
Planning on not drawing any permits, and hunting deer that aren’t there, just like this year.🤣
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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2018, 11:14:38 AM »
My approach is similar to many mentioned already.

Grab a calendar mark off how many days you can hunt on tags you can more than likely get.

Then put in for stuff that is impossible to draw. Then adjust if you draw an excellent tag.

My 2019 looks like:

Antelope- In Oregon with my dad. I have 2 more points than what is needed to draw so this is 99.9%

Deer-Region G in Wyoming as long as the winter is not horrible. I have a few more points than needed to draw. 100% draw unless I back out. Montana general with a point 99.9%

Elk- Wyoming 50/50 draw odds with my points. If I don’t draw in WY / put in for Oregon 15% odds with point class

Then I put in for ultra hard units knowing I have points to draw a few hunts listed above. And get preference points all over.

If everything above falls through go OTC archery or rifle some where.

Like Karl said go hunt instead of waiting for a once in a life time draw tag. Most of my trophies have come from areas I can hunt every year or every other year. And I have hit a few tags with like 1/1000 draw odds over the last 20 years to.
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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2018, 02:11:11 PM »
There are two services that I hate with all my heart and soul but you couldn't pry from my cold dead hands and that is Onyx and go hunt. They have changed the game immensely. Used to have to do all this stuff the hard way and it kept the barrier-to-entry somewhat High because people either didn't know how to navigate land ownership and draw odds and whatnot or were too lazy to learn.  They have made it basically dummy proof to get tags and go hunt.  A lot of the easier to draw tags or over-the-counter stuff where that way because they took some MacGyver in. With that said they've saved me a lot of man-hours and a lot of headache :chuckle:

Not being an onyx user, how does it help with planning?

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2018, 02:14:40 PM »
Planning on another extended series of archery gear mishaps, many long days of no animal sightings, and another 100 hunters asking me "....seen anything?" on fire roads.
Oh and beer, I'll be stocking up on beer to nurse my third year of wounded pride.

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2018, 09:31:06 PM »
1. Shoot for the moon in Utah...Archery Tag
2. Gain a point in Colorado for deer
3. OTC Archery early and late Idaho (2 tags). Apply for rifle rut tag
4. OTC Archery Wa Deer. Apply for tough to draw hunt
5. Hunt elk during downtime with archery


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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2018, 09:42:02 PM »
1. Shoot for the moon in Utah...Archery Tag
2. Gain a point in Colorado for deer
3. OTC Archery early and late Idaho (2 tags). Apply for rifle rut tag
4. OTC Archery Wa Deer. Apply for tough to draw hunt
5. Hunt elk during downtime with archery


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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2018, 09:46:00 PM »
To each their own, but I like the idea of being successful and having a good time over shooting a "book" animal but it's expensive and stressful...here are some tips about planning an out of state hunt:

http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/17/planning-an-out-of-state-hunt.aspx

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2018, 07:44:33 AM »
2019 applications are pretty easy for me. I drew a Idaho rifle tag this year, so in 2019 I'll have to sit out on bull draws. I'll be putting in for deer and antelope there, hunting elk OTC archery, and starting to build some points in Nevada. My #1 recomendation for hunting out of state is find units that have some sort of general season in them but also has draw only tags for the species you're interested in so you can spend some time learning it with the OTC tag and be ready when you draw the tag that takes multiple years.

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2018, 08:06:28 AM »
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?

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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2018, 08:44:57 AM »
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?
I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.


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Re: 2019 planning
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2018, 08:51:17 AM »
I am starting to notice a trend here. Does anyone actually hunt WA with any hope of success?
I do, but once you start hunting out of state a lot, you realize how much better hunting can be than here in Washington.


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