Post by: wolfbait on November 27, 2018, 12:22:27 PM
https://elknetwork.com/environmentalist-group-files-suit-wants-more-wolves-nationwide/
Post by: huntnphool on November 27, 2018, 12:43:57 PM
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Wolves are delisted in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming where populations are up to 400 percent above minimum recovery goals. Populations are also well above minimum recovery goals and state management plans in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, yet they remain listed due to environmental litigation.
And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
SMH
Post by: PA BEN on December 03, 2018, 12:21:34 PM
Where you and I hunted moose up buckcreek there is more wolf sign then moose sign now. They have devastated the whole area.QuoteWolves are delisted in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming where populations are up to 400 percent above minimum recovery goals. Populations are also well above minimum recovery goals and state management plans in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, yet they remain listed due to environmental litigation.
And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
SMH
Post by: huntnphool on December 03, 2018, 12:36:05 PM
Where you and I hunted moose up buckcreek there is more wolf sign then moose sign now. They have devastated the whole area.QuoteWolves are delisted in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming where populations are up to 400 percent above minimum recovery goals. Populations are also well above minimum recovery goals and state management plans in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, yet they remain listed due to environmental litigation.
And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
SMH
Yeah but let's keep hoping the wolf numbers increase right? :mor:
Post by: KFhunter on December 03, 2018, 01:00:14 PM
And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
SMH
Other HW'rs are morons? :tdown:
What's the deal, explain.
Just what is it you think other HW'rs should be saying or doing?
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 03, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
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And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
Phool I think the chances of hunting wolves in this state are slim to none. I feel much more confident in the OIL points I have for a sheep and that's almost a no win as well. :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on December 03, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
QuoteAnd yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
Phool I think the chances of hunting wolves in this state are slim to none. I feel much more confident in the OIL points I have for a sheep and that's almost a no win as well. :chuckle:
I think there's going to be some hunting, the question is will tags be issued.
A big part of the wolf plan is public acceptance, in order to have public acceptance there must be public trust, and WDFW has done a miserable job at that.
I envision a point where literally everyone will say "screw it" :mgun:
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 03, 2018, 01:26:23 PM
But when you read that the Bio states she doesn't think they are any impact. You are :pee: into the wind. All your doing is getting your knees wet.
I hate to use emogee but if not it get's house kept.
Post by: huntnphool on December 03, 2018, 01:30:45 PM
QuoteAnd yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
Phool I think the chances of hunting wolves in this state are slim to none. I feel much more confident in the OIL points I have for a sheep and that's almost a no win as well. :chuckle:
Agreed.
And yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
SMH
Other HW'rs are morons? :tdown:
What's the deal, explain.
Just what is it you think other HW'rs should be saying or doing?
Yes!
It's almost a unanimous consensus on this forum that we currently have too many wolves in this state.
We know it will take wolf numbers increasing from today's current total in order for WDFW to even consider hunting a option, a option that will not include hunting them to lower numbers than we currently have. A option that will be battled in courts for who knows how long, all the while the numbers continue increasing.
In a nutshell, we have members that think we have too many wolves, and at the same time want to see the numbers get to the point of "a hunt" being a option.....and don't understand that in order for that to happen the numbers need to increase from what they already believe to be too many.....its lunacy! :twocents:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 03, 2018, 01:33:38 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on December 03, 2018, 01:54:32 PM
Capture wolves and drop them off in downtown Seattle.
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 03, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 03, 2018, 02:06:17 PM
Transplantation.
Capture wolves and drop them off in downtown Seattle.
which if I remember right was an option
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 03, 2018, 02:08:08 PM
Transplantation.
Capture wolves and drop them off in downtown Seattle.
which if I remember right was an option
I thought a bill was passed which mandated it.
Post by: huntnphool on December 03, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
So, exactly what is the correct answer/action???
I can tell you what isn't the answer, and that's hoping for more wolves!
Post by: KFhunter on December 03, 2018, 02:17:41 PM
So, exactly what is the correct answer/action???
I can tell you what isn't the answer, and that's hoping for more wolves!
It's a catch 22
If you're coming from the "we won't ever be able to hunt wolves no matter if the plan is fully realized or not" camp then your position makes perfect since, still the membership here have come a long ways from when I got here in 2011 when many members were excited about wolves and didn't think a lot of harm would come from them being here (wolves will make you a better hunter)...if I read back in the archives it's interesting who's positions have changed :tup:
Post by: wolfbait on December 03, 2018, 03:17:48 PM
QuoteAnd yet we still have the huntwa cheerleaders drooling that we hit the 15BP threshold so WDFW will issue tags, while our herds continue to dwindle..... :mor:
Phool I think the chances of hunting wolves in this state are slim to none. I feel much more confident in the OIL points I have for a sheep and that's almost a no win as well. :chuckle:
I think there's going to be some hunting, the question is will tags be issued.
A big part of the wolf plan is public acceptance, in order to have public acceptance there must be public trust, and WDFW has done a miserable job at that.
I envision a point where literally everyone will say "screw it" :mgun:
I kind of think many rural areas are past the point and have been for quite some time, I can speak for the Okanogan at least.
WDFW are doing another deer impact study, most on H-W, know by now what wolves do to the ungulates etc., so WDF&Wolves are just blowing more $$.
I talk to a guy the other day that said he and his dad were opening up Little Bridge Cr in the spring of 1999 for fire wood cutting and had five wolves come right in around them, he said they saw five but could hear others howling.
It took reporting a wolf pack hanging out at a school bus stop to the WSP before WDFW would confirm a wolf pack. And then they pretended it was the only one for several years, and as everyone has seen they have slow walked confirming wolf BPs etc..
WA has lost, rural area after rural area will be shut down to hunting due to wolves, cougars, etc. excessive predation, meanwhile WDF&Wolves will continue with their BS studies that everyone with half a brain already knows the answer to.
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