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Post by: meatwhack on November 30, 2018, 03:29:25 PM
The hunter has agreed to let me do the taxidermy work. Will score him when I get my hands on him for those who are curious.
That’s going to take a good taxidermist to fix that cape. That is a phenomenal buck.
Post by: Hoythunter on November 30, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
The hunter has agreed to let me do the taxidermy work. Will score him when I get my hands on him for those who are curious.
That’s going to take a good taxidermist to fix that cape. That is a phenomenal buck.
Right! Awesome buck but looks like he steer wrestled him cut his throat. I’d do whatever it took as well if that was my buck. Love the darkness of his rack, almost like it’s covered in pine tar. So cool.
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Post by: notellumcreek on November 30, 2018, 05:20:53 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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Proper game management :dunno:
Awesome buck
Post by: papaonthemountain on November 30, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
In this case of the big rez buck I'm replacing the cape with a big white faced old timer that will do him justice.
Here is a pic (if it works) of another rez buck that green scores 192 and change.
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Post by: 10thmountainarcher on November 30, 2018, 06:47:05 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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Proper game management :dunno:
Awesome buck
They are definitely on to something. The elk and mule deer that are harvested each year off the reservation are phenomenal.
Post by: GrampasGuns on November 30, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
Post by: lewy on November 30, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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Proper game management :dunno:
Awesome buck
They are definitely on to something. The elk and mule deer that are harvested each year off the reservation are phenomenal.
They definitely seem to manage there animals well. I’m assuming they get to hunt threw the rut for the ungulate species as well and that don’t hurt for killing monsters either
Post by: bigmacc on November 30, 2018, 08:08:49 PM
I'm guessing a lot of us old timers grew up cutting the deer's throat. That was just the way we were taught. I got a buck in from my neighbor who cut his son's buck's throat even though it had been dead for 15 minutes (according to the son).
In this case of the big rez buck I'm replacing the cape with a big white faced old timer that will do him justice.
Here is a pic (if it works) of another rez buck that green scores 192 and change.
There you have it, I,m an "old timer" and thats what I was taught also, point em downhill and slit the throat, heck, back in my "hay day" we killed some monsters and never had one "scored", never had em mounted and gave the horns away to the Boy Scouts etc. to make projects out of.....Good times :tup:
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 30, 2018, 08:39:52 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2018, 10:02:42 PM
The score won’t do that buck justice. Incredible buck! Thanks for sharing!
Score doesn't mean sh!t with bucks like that. Mount that buck and put it on the wall next to a 190 typical 4, everyone that walks into the room and looks will gravitate to the massive heavy buck every time......that's from experience.
Congrats to the hunter, that's a true buck of a lifetime! :tup:
Post by: bigmacc on November 30, 2018, 10:22:59 PM
The score won’t do that buck justice. Incredible buck! Thanks for sharing!
Score doesn't mean sh!t with bucks like that. Mount that buck and put it on the wall next to a 190 typical 4, everyone that walks into the room and looks will gravitate to the massive heavy buck every time......that's from experience.
Congrats to the hunter, that's a true buck of a lifetime! :tup:
Perfectly said phool :tup:....and once again, congrats to the hunter on a real dandy.
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 30, 2018, 10:25:04 PM
:yeah: predator management as wellIncredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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Proper game management :dunno:
Awesome buck
Post by: PolarBear on November 30, 2018, 10:28:20 PM
Post by: bigmacc on November 30, 2018, 10:52:33 PM
You might be surprised how many monster bucks are on that Rez. I know of several mule deer killed throughout the years that were over 40" wide and whitetail bucks pushing 200". Not sure if it is as much management s it is remoteness, lack of pressure and rugged terrain.
True story, two of the biggest bucks I have ever seen dead or alive were at a gas station in Winthrop in the late 70,s, the heads were under a tarp in the backseat of a Honda, I was filling up and noticed the horns through the window, a couple young girls came out of the station and got into the car, I asked if those were their deer and the driver said "yep" and she pulled the tarp off and 2 -30plus inch bucks were exposed(the heads), if I remember right one was 32" and one was 34" :dunno:. They were sisters and one had just graduated in June, mom and dad had baught the graduate a guided hunt somewhere around the Rez and she took the sister. Heavy and wide bucks, true story!
Post by: Caseyd on December 01, 2018, 02:51:12 AM
I'm guessing a lot of us old timers grew up cutting the deer's throat. That was just the way we were taught. I got a buck in from my neighbor who cut his son's buck's throat even though it had been dead for 15 minutes (according to the son).
In this case of the big rez buck I'm replacing the cape with a big white faced old timer that will do him justice.
Here is a pic (if it works) of another rez buck that green scores 192 and change.
That buck from a couple weeks back? It’s a dandy
Post by: CaNINE on December 01, 2018, 05:29:14 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2018, 07:12:41 AM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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I can answer that if you'd really like to know
Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2018, 07:16:18 AM
I'm guessing a lot of us old timers grew up cutting the deer's throat. That was just the way we were taught. I got a buck in from my neighbor who cut his son's buck's throat even though it had been dead for 15 minutes (according to the son).
In this case of the big rez buck I'm replacing the cape with a big white faced old timer that will do him justice.
Here is a pic (if it works) of another rez buck that green scores 192 and change.
That buck from a couple weeks back? It’s a dandy
Yes, I saw pics of it a couple weeks ago.
Post by: ThurstonCokid on December 01, 2018, 07:40:12 AM
I’d personally like to knowIncredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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Post by: papaonthemountain on December 01, 2018, 07:51:55 AM
An interesting side note to the Colville's predator control.... WDFW "granted" them a quota of 3 wolves to be killed on the north half. After the recent removal of wolves from the Profanity/Togo pack WDFW declared their quota was filled. Needless to say it didn't fly.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2018, 08:15:09 AM
Wolves are severely impacting their herds. I'm looking forward to their response.
Post by: PolarBear on December 01, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
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Post by: Alan K on December 01, 2018, 08:48:10 AM
You'd never even think it possible in most places in this state, but places like this and and even the Kapowsin Tree Farm with respect to elk continue to amaze.
I'd love to see 1/5 of units or so, equally distributed throughout the state, go to a trophy sort of management like this.
Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2018, 08:57:09 AM
On the flip. It helps to have country like that. 90% of the big bucks killed are killed during the rut and 80% of those are popped from the road. Its tough country and not very many folks doing the harvesting. That helps tremendously.
Post by: fishnfur on December 01, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
Post by: chukardogs on December 01, 2018, 10:09:04 AM
If things haven't changed over the years, there is one place on the rez for sure where you can find a deer that has had the opportunity to get that old. Don't quote me on the specifics here, but I've heard Whitmore Mountain in the Southern Central portion of the rez is closed to hunting for up to 8 years at a time. Because of this, the bucks in this area could get the chance to be 8, 9, 10 years old. That "Rez buck" based on that mass, has got to be an 8 year old or older deer. Because we're right in the middle of the Mule deer rut, those bucks will roam 10-15 miles and then even if Whitmore is closed, he could end up down along the river, thus not too far of the highway through that area.
If you ever want to photograph or just see big mature Mule deer during the rut, there is a road that goes up the west side of Whitmore Mountain. It's worth the trip just to see what the country is actually capable of producing.
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 01, 2018, 10:46:29 AM
It would be nice if a similar structure were in place somewhere else for the good of the species for future generations to enjoy.
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 03, 2018, 05:06:12 PM
@Boneaddict your last couple posts pretty much summed up a successful management plan that's being operated by the Colvilles.
It would be nice if a similar structure were in place somewhere else for the good of the species for future generations to enjoy.
:yeah:
Post by: MtnMuley on December 03, 2018, 05:43:59 PM
Spent the last 50 years or more running around in that country. Don't get me wrong, that is an awesome animal, but not all that unusual for that country. Have seen one very similar and a couple pretty close to it during the 90s in October and early November on what is considered the north half. Even with the deer population being what it is now, those older bucks that can actually get to that 6/7 year old get really smart and really nocturnal. Once a buck gets to that age, he's big enough and tough enough to make predators think twice, that's "if" they actually ever see him.
If things haven't changed over the years, there is one place on the rez for sure where you can find a deer that has had the opportunity to get that old. Don't quote me on the specifics here, but I've heard Whitmore Mountain in the Southern Central portion of the rez is closed to hunting for up to 8 years at a time. Because of this, the bucks in this area could get the chance to be 8, 9, 10 years old. That "Rez buck" based on that mass, has got to be an 8 year old or older deer. Because we're right in the middle of the Mule deer rut, those bucks will roam 10-15 miles and then even if Whitmore is closed, he could end up down along the river, thus not too far of the highway through that area.
If you ever want to photograph or just see big mature Mule deer during the rut, there is a road that goes up the west side of Whitmore Mountain. It's worth the trip just to see what the country is actually capable of producing.
I dont know where you got your info, but you're absolutely wrong. You should drive up to the Whitmore Mtn area via the road you mentioned and report back how many animals you saw besides wild horses. Also take some pics of the foragable foods you see, because even the sage up there has been trimmed by the horses. Lastly, Whitmore Mtn has always been open to tribal hunting from June/July to the end of Nov/Dec varying on species. Til Dec 31 these days.
Post by: TVHunts on December 03, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
First of all, their herd numbers are way down as well, but as testament to papa :yeah: they look to be responding. They are aggressive at predator management(hounds). They have reasonable harvest limits and reporting of harvest. Real game management. They brought in elk that thrive in that terrain. They manage them as a sustainable way to feed their people. They self regulate, meaning they go after abuse unlike others.... Trying not to be political.... They have the terrain and escapement. They also manage their forests. I think they have gotten a little greedy in some places, which has negatively impacted their herds in localized spots, but in reality, they have avoided catastrophic fires, and it doesnt take long for the feed and brush to actually help game. Their forests are 10x healthier than off rez. The genetics are there, and the hunting pressure is relatively low. I suppose thats the short version. Some shout outs to game management. They transplanted sheep into country that can sustain them. They are doing well! They brought in elk, they are doing beyond well, and now they have brought in Antelope. Fingers crossed.
Wolves are severely impacting their herds. I'm looking forward to their response.
I truly appreciate your post, thank you!
Post by: Wunderlich33 on December 04, 2018, 09:54:03 AM
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Post by: chukardogs on December 04, 2018, 07:54:17 PM
My point was, that area can, has and probably still does produce some really big animals. If a buck can find a place to stay out of the hunters eye for a few years, they end up getting really smart and really nocturnal. Once this happens, the only chance at them is during the rut when they just don't care or ya just get lucky.
Post by: huntnnw on December 04, 2018, 10:53:27 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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and some of those you see are not shot on the rez just in 101. When you can drive around with a rifle for months thru the peak of rut :rolleyes:
Post by: ian_padron on December 04, 2018, 11:57:17 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.Sound management practices. The Colville boys play by the rules unlike other tribes around the West.
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Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2018, 12:01:05 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 05, 2018, 01:51:49 PM
Shows what managing for quality vs quantity produces.
Agree with that. My stepdad was a Spokane Indian. On that rez (at least back in the 80s) tons of whitetails are killed regularly from June through the end of December. Deer numbers there were not high, but every year my dad (who was one of the few tribal hunters back then who hunted off the roads - he hiked, still hunted and LOTS of tree stands) killed at least one big whitetail. To be fair, most of those buck were shot in the rut. But man, for the deer numbers (low densities) there was a surprising number of big bucks.
Post by: Doublelunger on December 05, 2018, 04:01:38 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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and some of those you see are not shot on the rez just in 101. When you can drive around with a rifle for months thru the peak of rut :rolleyes:
True story. More than a few of their big bucks come from the "north half" more commonly known as GMU's 101 and 204.
Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
Post by: huntnnw on December 05, 2018, 10:29:58 PM
Incredible buck. It makes me wonder though why the colville res keeps pumping out monsters even when the rest of the state is so far down.
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and some of those you see are not shot on the rez just in 101. When you can drive around with a rifle for months thru the peak of rut :rolleyes:
True story. More than a few of their big bucks come from the "north half" more commonly known as GMU's 101 and 204.
and a bunch of those giant whitetails are off rez. My buddy had 2 indians trying to set up on him while he was in his stand with rifles!
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 06, 2018, 06:53:10 AM
Shows what managing for quality vs quantity produces.
Agree with that. My stepdad was a Spokane Indian. On that rez (at least back in the 80s) tons of whitetails are killed regularly from June through the end of December. Deer numbers there were not high, but every year my dad (who was one of the few tribal hunters back then who hunted off the roads - he hiked, still hunted and LOTS of tree stands) killed at least one big whitetail. To be fair, most of those buck were shot in the rut. But man, for the deer numbers (low densities) there was a surprising number of big bucks.
Pretty common, many areas that consistently produce big deer have generally low densities.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 06, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
@Boneaddict your last couple posts pretty much summed up a successful management plan that's being operated by the Colvilles.Can you imagine!!!
It would be nice if a similar structure were in place somewhere else for the good of the species for future generations to enjoy.
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Post by: Doublelunger on December 07, 2018, 08:06:27 AM
Follow the rbbp link someone posted above and you can see for yourself. :tup:
I Follow them on facebook and Instagram and have only seen a couple dead wolfs over the last 3 years so it doesnt really seem to me like they're stacking them up like everyone makes it out to be :dunno: I'd like to see some actual numbers is why ive asked, going off of social medias posts isn't what I would consider a reliable source of data.
Post by: jstone on December 07, 2018, 08:11:46 AM
Post by: dilleytech on December 08, 2018, 09:45:17 AM
Follow the rbbp link someone posted above and you can see for yourself. :tup:
I Follow them on facebook and Instagram and have only seen a couple dead wolfs over the last 3 years so it doesnt really seem to me like they're stacking them up like everyone makes it out to be :dunno: I'd like to see some actual numbers is why ive asked, going off of social medias posts isn't what I would consider a reliable source of data.
You can’t assume that the pics posted on social media are the full numbers. They could be going around hound hunting hard and just not saying anything.