Post by: WSU on December 04, 2018, 11:23:01 AM
rid of?
Post by: 724wd on December 04, 2018, 12:01:22 PM
If they're more into wheel bows I would start them on a Mathews Genesis. No monkeying around with draw length and whatnot. Get them shooting and as they grow, the genesis will too. The Genesis doesn't have a draw stop, it's functionally more like a recurve with steady pull. GREAT for learning the archery basics (look up the 12 steps to archery). Then as their skills advance and you want to get them thinking about hunting, a year or two away, pick whichever major brand you like and buy their super adjustable bow. My daughter shot her mini genesis from 4-9, then we got her a Bear Cruzer Lite. She killed her first deer with it this year, the first day she ever hunted (helps to have a good spot... thanks grandpa! :chuckle: ). She's 11. If you get them in a regular bow now, you'll spend more time adjusting the draw length every week and resighting... Get them shooting and having fun, then move into the hunting gear as they age.
Post by: stickslinger on December 04, 2018, 12:46:25 PM
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 04, 2018, 08:30:35 PM
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Post by: smithkl42 on December 05, 2018, 05:08:47 PM
The Barnett is cheapest, but it's not nearly as adjustable as the Diamond and it's marginal for hunting - it'll go to 45 pounds, but only at the very end of its draw length. If my daughter shows any interest in hunting as she gets older, I'll upgrade her to the Diamond or something like it.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 05, 2018, 06:45:50 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 05, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
Post by: spin05 on December 07, 2018, 05:04:26 AM
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 07, 2018, 08:33:07 AM
We've been happy with it.
It's very easy to adjust both draw weight and length.
Post by: Buckmark on December 07, 2018, 08:54:00 AM
If you are not needing to get it right now you might wait till after the first of the year and they put alot of them on good sales :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on December 07, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
Post by: dmv9 on December 07, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
Post by: Buckmark on December 07, 2018, 10:21:10 AM
What do you get if the kid is left-handed? I'm looking at Cabela's and just seeing compound bows, which I'm assuming is right-handed.Crayons :chuckle: JK JK
They make them for southpaws, Diamond makes the Infinite edge in left hand
Example: https://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/youth-small-frame-archery/youth-small-frame-compound-bows/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/472681980/i/472682880/infinite-edge-pro-black-ops-package/1943472.uts?slotId=2
Post by: idaho guy on December 07, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
Diamond infinate edge, the boy loves it and it will grow with them
this one-at least for my son has worked great for a lot of years he is 16 now and just now going to upgrade to an adult bow
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 07, 2018, 03:21:17 PM
Post by: WSU on December 07, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 07, 2018, 03:45:31 PM
Thanks for letting me tag along. I wouldn't mind hearing the reveal and impressions, since I am about two months out.
Post by: Special T on December 07, 2018, 06:04:35 PM
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Post by: WSU on December 07, 2018, 09:45:14 PM
:tup:
Thanks for letting me tag along. I wouldn't mind hearing the reveal and impressions, since I am about two months out.
Would be happy to give my thoughts. Please remind me though because I will undoubtedly forget.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 08, 2018, 10:48:13 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 13, 2018, 09:28:22 AM
https://hoyt.com/compound-bows/fireshot
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18 to 28 inches of draw length adjustment and either 14 to 41 pounds or 19 to 51 pounds of draw weight adjustment
seems pretty well adjustable for a starter bow.
Camo'd Arrow, which I would like to patronize, is a Hoyt shop, but obviously I would like the most appropriate option for him to begin.
Thanks.
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2018, 06:42:30 PM
I'd rather buy lower end bows more often that's suited to their ages, kids get new bow excitement too
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 14, 2018, 07:19:53 PM
I wouldn't go hog wild on a 7 year old, I did that :chuckle: They just like to spend time with pop at that age and it doesn't too much matter the quality of their gear.
I'd rather buy lower end bows more often that's suited to their ages, kids get new bow excitement too
I am not so worried about quality or name so much as the experiences available. I am a complete archery noob, so I don't know if either has a relative benefit over the other, or whether one would have peculiar drawbacks. I certainly don't want to sell it in a few years because it is not working out.
I just want him to be able to have something that works and he can grow with. Secondary to that is patronizing a local shop, even though I might be able to save a few dollars by going through Amazon.
Not looking for a gold plated bow, however, and the prices seem roughly comparable.
I'll save the cheap stuff (30+ year old recurves) for me.
Post by: KFhunter on December 15, 2018, 04:14:45 PM
it's kinda like this one, ambidextrous and cheap, shoots fiberglass arrows and it'll barely stick the arrows in the target.
(https://dks.scene7.com/is/image/dkscdn/17BT2UWLDHWKXXXXXABW_Orange_Black?wid=425)
Her cousin has a slightly bigger bow (I think it's a Bear brave) but she can't pull it back yet, neither can he though and he's a couple years older.
I'm not sure what her next bow will be, but I'm looking at this one
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Original-Bow-RH-Camo/dp/B004T2MOZY?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ5D3JAXJBKMXQPHQ&tag=advancedhunter-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B004T2MOZY
I do have a youth bow she can hunt with, several actually but one's a lefty and I'm not sure which is which, it's either a bear cruzer or diamond infinite edge. both are good hunting bows for young teens.
Why don't I just start her on the diamond? because the bow is too heavy overall, she'll struggle to hold the riser outstretched and compensate as her arm sags making bad form.
I want a light weight bow that won't tax her arms too much and keeping good form, building muscle around proper form and posture.
She's no little dainty thing either, she's 90% for height and bigger than most of the boys, actually I think she may be the 2nd biggest in her class and probably the strongest.
Post by: idaho guy on December 15, 2018, 07:03:25 PM
My daughter is 7 turning 8 at the end of the month, she's outgrowing her little fiberglass bow. It's a cheapo but she loves shooting it, she goes out and does it all on her own working on her skills.
it's kinda like this one, ambidextrous and cheap, shoots fiberglass arrows and it'll barely stick the arrows in the target.
(https://dks.scene7.com/is/image/dkscdn/17BT2UWLDHWKXXXXXABW_Orange_Black?wid=425)
Her cousin has a slightly bigger bow (I think it's a Bear brave) but she can't pull it back yet, neither can he though and he's a couple years older.
I'm not sure what her next bow will be, but I'm looking at this one
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Original-Bow-RH-Camo/dp/B004T2MOZY?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ5D3JAXJBKMXQPHQ&tag=advancedhunter-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B004T2MOZY
I do have a youth bow she can hunt with, several actually but one's a lefty and I'm not sure which is which, it's either a bear cruzer or diamond infinite edge. both are good hunting bows for young teens.
Why don't I just start her on the diamond? because the bow is too heavy overall, she'll struggle to hold the riser outstretched and compensate as her arm sags making bad form.
I want a light weight bow that won't tax her arms too much and keeping good form, building muscle around proper form and posture.
She's no little dainty thing either, she's 90% for height and bigger than most of the boys, actually I think she may be the 2nd biggest in her class and probably the strongest.
:yeah:great advice at least I think so! I started the kids on very similar cheap bows and I think it makes them better shooters. I upgraded to the infinite edge when ready to actually bow hunt and that bow worked great and my son got a few animals with it
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 16, 2018, 10:10:17 AM
Post by: KFhunter on December 16, 2018, 10:46:56 AM
Hmm. Good points about the weight. My boy is a bit spindly.
That bow I linked going to amazon had a review that might pertain to you
Post by: KFhunter on December 16, 2018, 11:02:23 AM
https://www.advancedhunter.com/best-youth-compound-bow/
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 17, 2018, 12:46:08 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 17, 2018, 09:54:38 PM
Hmm. Good points about the weight. My boy is a bit spindly.
That bow I linked going to amazon had a review that might pertain to you
Yeah, Amazon has that bow listed at 5 lbs., which seems wrong or pertaining to the entire package.
:dunno:
Interesting zero let off design, though.
The bows that the article listed as good youth bows all seemed to come in at 2-3 lbs.
For reference, the Diamond Infinite Edge and the Hoyt Fireshot both come in at about 3 lbs.
Post by: KFhunter on December 18, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Took my girl bow shopping, the mission craze 2 was a bit heavy, she therw her hips into holding it out throwing off form
The bear cruzer lite was only 3.2 lbs, she held it easily, bit spendy at 400 bux rth
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 18, 2018, 04:56:52 PM
Post by: tgomez on December 19, 2018, 11:05:02 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 19, 2018, 11:15:03 PM
https://www.genesisbow.com
There's a lot to like there, including 2 lb. on the mini, low draw weights, near-infinite choice of colors available, and a body of users due to after school archery program use.
Helpful reviews here.
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Original-Bow-RH-Camo/dp/B004T2MOZY
Post by: 724wd on December 21, 2018, 09:17:31 AM
Another person recommended the Mathews Genesis, which now seems to go just by the name Genesis.
https://www.genesisbow.com
There's a lot to like there, including 2 lb. on the mini, low draw weights, near-infinite choice of colors available, and a body of users due to after school archery program use.
Helpful reviews here.
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Original-Bow-RH-Camo/dp/B004T2MOZY
:yeah: as they're learning to shoot, the last thing you want to deal with is weekly tuning sessions! draw length changed, poundage change, sight readjust... get them SHOOTING first! the Genesis is basically recurve with wheels. no letoff. WONDERFUL bow for kids to learn... but I mentioned all that in post #2 :chuckle:
Skip the sights, release, d-loop, blah blah blah, get a Genesis and follow the 11 steps to archery. success in thousands of schools across the country!
https://medium.com/@nehal.umber/11-steps-of-archery-success-982d3ccfe398
Post by: J.Brower on December 27, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 27, 2018, 11:20:40 PM
Post by: Stein on January 15, 2019, 01:48:26 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 20, 2019, 12:31:56 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 20, 2019, 10:30:18 AM
Going with the Genesis Mini for my boy after stopping in the shop today and getting measured. Should be ready to go by his birthday.
:tup:
Post by: jnordwell on January 20, 2019, 01:39:08 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 20, 2019, 02:02:40 PM
Red is getting my Damon Howatt 26# recurve set up, too, so I can begin with him. I am pretty excited.
Post by: elkrack on January 20, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
Post by: 724wd on January 21, 2019, 08:24:44 AM
Nice. My boy, 7 at birthday, draws at 18", and the Genesis mini, at 2#, is 4" shorter and 1.5# lighter than the standard Genesis. He'll probably start at near the 6# starting draw weight.
Red is getting my Damon Howatt 26# recurve set up, too, so I can begin with him. I am pretty excited.
PERFECT!!! :tup: :tup:
Post by: Fl0und3rz on February 14, 2019, 05:25:27 PM
We both did about 12-15 arrows, the first for both of us. We were pretty stoked, but the boy was getting fatigued and sloppy, while it was getty busy in there.
I have nothing but great things to say about Red and Camo'd Arrow.
Post by: BigVinn on February 15, 2019, 02:56:25 PM
Post by: jnordwell on February 18, 2019, 05:28:05 PM