Post by: Chase2008 on December 04, 2018, 10:36:50 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 04, 2018, 11:40:32 PM
Why midsize?
Is fuel mileage your main concern?
Post by: Chase2008 on December 05, 2018, 06:56:29 AM
Post by: full choke on December 05, 2018, 07:10:38 AM
Post by: NorseNW on December 05, 2018, 08:30:52 AM
4runner.
Yup - 4runner all the way. Not the cheapest option even in the used realm but holy smokes do they last. Our '03 with 189k on it still running just fine. When it dies there will be another.
Post by: Old Man Yager on December 05, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
Yep, they last along time. We have a 97 with 225 k, still going strong. I've done minor repairs on it, just the stuff that normally wears out, but it's a great rig.4runner.
Yup - 4runner all the way. Not the cheapest option even in the used realm but holy smokes do they last. Our '03 with 189k on it still running just fine. When it dies there will be another.
Post by: swanny on December 05, 2018, 09:23:01 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2018, 09:53:05 AM
Post by: Jpmiller on December 05, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
Post by: CP on December 05, 2018, 10:09:10 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 05, 2018, 10:13:51 AM
Under 12k. Looking for decent mileage since it is the daily driver and something that will last. Was thinking mid as a larger suv would bring down the mpg. And not something too small as I need space for dogs etcFuel economy between mid and full size these days is much narrower than you may think. :twocents:
Post by: syoungs on December 05, 2018, 10:18:47 AM
Seemed a little bigger interior wise, was cheaper, and the ride imho was better.
Weve had it a few years now and have been happy with it. Gets about 26mpg on road trips with 3 of us and luggage.
Post by: Mark Brenckle on December 05, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 05, 2018, 10:42:56 AM
4runner.Couldn't pick a worse rig for what is intended.
Heavy, bad mileage, overpriced for what you get.
Ford Escape, Honda CRV or Element(if you can find one), Nissan Pathfinder, Rogue, Xterra(like a 4Runr, lotsa show, not much go).
Look at brands with good quality and low resale(Nissan).
I have 220k miles in wonderful Toyotas...The Koolaid has long-since worn off.
Post by: full choke on December 05, 2018, 11:29:39 AM
4runner.Couldn't pick a worse rig for what is intended.
Heavy, bad mileage, overpriced for what you get.
Ford Escape, Honda CRV or Element(if you can find one), Nissan Pathfinder, Rogue, Xterra(like a 4Runr, lotsa show, not much go).
Look at brands with good quality and low resale(Nissan).
I have 220k miles in wonderful Toyotas...The Koolaid has long-since worn off.
Not even really sure what you are saying?
4runner bad or 4runner good?
Are you saying a mid sized SUV is not what he should be looking for?
Or a 4runner is not the midsized SUV he should be looking for?
Anyhow- he asked for mid size SUV, decent mileage, dependable, room for dogs.
How many dogs? what size dogs?
No clue, but for a mid size, dependable, decent mileage SUV with room for dogs, I say 4runner.
Post by: Curly on December 05, 2018, 11:35:45 AM
Seems awfully small too be considered mid sized. To me, mid size is an Explorer. :twocents:
Post by: b23 on December 05, 2018, 12:04:02 PM
We just went through this with getting our kid their first car and the Escape was one that I researched the heck out of. Everything I could learn about them indicates they are a very solid car that'll last many years with relatively low maint. cost/s. We ended up not getting the Escape but basically a version of.
Another solid vehicle to consider and is a bit larger is the Ford Edge.
Unfortunately, finding something decent under 12K could be a bigger hurdle than which make/model to get.
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 05, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
Post by: Alchase on December 05, 2018, 05:15:33 PM
For $12k any 4Runner below that price will be 10 or more years old with 150k to 200k + miles on it.
I would look at a Honda CRV or Toyota RAV4 with 4wd. Then you will still have a commuter with decent mileage.
Post by: jdb on December 05, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
Post by: cooltimber on December 05, 2018, 06:42:15 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on December 05, 2018, 07:26:34 PM
Subaru Forester
And prepare to change head gaskets. I wouldn't own a Subaru if it was gave to me. Especially with the vintage you'll get in that price range!
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 05, 2018, 07:33:18 PM
As others have said, Toyotas are fabulous, but easily the most overvalued used vehicles on the market.
For your intended use and price range, I think a Santa Fe is the best option. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything else that comes close in terms of reliability and overall bang for your buck.
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2018, 07:34:58 PM
subaru forester
Post by: Bofire on December 05, 2018, 07:46:49 PM
Carl
Post by: WA1232 on December 05, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 05, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Post by: Sandberm on December 06, 2018, 07:24:29 AM
I'd get a 08-12 model
But...doing a craigslist search I came upon this clean 02 model for under $3k. Based on the location it looks like it might come from a winery.
https://eastoregon.craigslist.org/cto/d/2002-nissan-pathfinder-4x4/6746048514.html (https://eastoregon.craigslist.org/cto/d/2002-nissan-pathfinder-4x4/6746048514.html)
Post by: Chase2008 on December 06, 2018, 08:03:27 PM
Off road will be gravel logging roads so no need for anything that with that capability. Have a liberty now and. Not a fan. Looking for something similar size bit better quality
Post by: JWEBB on December 06, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
Post by: banishd on December 07, 2018, 12:07:20 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 07, 2018, 05:25:39 PM
Post by: coachcw on January 09, 2019, 06:06:46 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2019, 11:05:33 PM
Acura MDX
My wife loves hers.
Post by: Sandberm on January 10, 2019, 09:39:07 AM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
Post by: fowl smacker on January 10, 2019, 10:16:37 AM
Do not by a highlander! Havent had a single problem with mine until now. The engine cooler pipe burst and dumped all the oil out. Its a $100 part that will ruin your engine if it fails and they know its a problem. Have extended repair warranty on this part to 150k miles but wont touch it unless it fails first. Mine has 150,400 miles and they are telling me I am out of luck.....We have a Highlander and so do my parents. Haven't had an issue with either one. Theirs is an 07 with about 250k, ours is a 16 with 65k. They do great in snow and ice with studded tires as well. with
Post by: Alchase on January 10, 2019, 11:00:52 AM
I went to Enterprise to rent a 4x4 or All-Wheel drive vehicle. They gave us a Hyundai Santa Fe. I would have never considered this vehicle. We were very impressed how solid it drove. One our return trip we were in the blizzard conditions from Easton up over the pass down to almost North Bend. Chains required, except 4x4 and All-Wheel drive. The Santa Fe with traction control handled the snow and ice exceptionally well. We saw an older subaru wagon spin out, and a Chevy Traverse ping pong out of control hitting multiple cars. At no time did I feel loss of traction.
The gas mileage was around 26 MPG average, and the interior was very comfortable and roomy. THe only thing I saw was it could have had more power getting up to speed. It was substantially less powerful than our All-Wheel drive Murano with 300 HP, and I would not put it in the same category as the Murano or MDX.
All in All, I was very impressed at the ride and ability of the Santa Fe. I would definitely consider one with All-Wheel drive for a commuter vehicle at their price point.
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 10, 2019, 11:14:23 AM
Post by: Alchase on January 10, 2019, 11:25:39 AM
Our Daughter had a 2005 Rav4 All-Wheel drive, drove it to 280k miles and traded it in for a 2017 Rav4 All-Wheel drive, have 20k on this one. Neither of her Rav4s have every been in the shop. Extremely reliable vehicles.
Post by: huntnphool on January 10, 2019, 03:21:27 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 10, 2019, 04:54:36 PM
Never get a Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo under any circumstances. Trust me on this one.Love my Jeep Grand Cherokee. Isn't a Laredo. I get average 23 MPG. I drive 60 miles round trip for work. All wheel drive, 3.6 l V6 300HP. I had 2 Escapes before thus one. Great vehicles but they aren't mid size. They are small for sure.
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Post by: JWEBB on January 11, 2019, 09:48:39 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Post by: huntnphool on January 11, 2019, 11:22:04 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Post by: JWEBB on January 11, 2019, 11:35:32 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Nice. I’ve been looking at getting one for the wife. I have a 6.0 f350 but I know the 7.3 was a better motor. Good 7.3 excursions are tough to find for a reasonable price
Post by: grimace on January 12, 2019, 08:52:53 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Nice. I’ve been looking at getting one for the wife. I have a 6.0 f350 but I know the 7.3 was a better motor. Good 7.3 excursions are tough to find for a reasonable price
I wish we never got rid of our 01' Excursion, it was a bus, drove nice, comfortable and got 17-20 mpg
G
Post by: JWEBB on January 12, 2019, 09:56:32 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Nice. I’ve been looking at getting one for the wife. I have a 6.0 f350 but I know the 7.3 was a better motor. Good 7.3 excursions are tough to find for a reasonable price
I wish we never got rid of our 01' Excursion, it was a bus, drove nice, comfortable and got 17-20 mpg
G
Wow that’s great mileage. My wife’s small suv gets less than that
Post by: huntnphool on January 12, 2019, 10:25:46 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Nice. I’ve been looking at getting one for the wife. I have a 6.0 f350 but I know the 7.3 was a better motor. Good 7.3 excursions are tough to find for a reasonable price
I wish we never got rid of our 01' Excursion, it was a bus, drove nice, comfortable and got 17-20 mpg
G
Wow that’s great mileage. My wife’s small suv gets less than that
Still get 18 daily driving, not bad for a 8000# vehicle.
Post by: JWEBB on January 12, 2019, 11:15:24 PM
521k on my Excursion and still drive it almost every day.
You have 521,000 miles on your Excursion? Care to elaborate how you achieved that?
I do, drive it almost daily. Not much to any story, just dive it everywhere. :dunno:
7.3 I imagine?
Correct
Nice. I’ve been looking at getting one for the wife. I have a 6.0 f350 but I know the 7.3 was a better motor. Good 7.3 excursions are tough to find for a reasonable price
I wish we never got rid of our 01' Excursion, it was a bus, drove nice, comfortable and got 17-20 mpg
G
Wow that’s great mileage. My wife’s small suv gets less than that
Still get 18 daily driving, not bad for a 8000# vehicle.
Wow awesome! Amazing for such a tank
Post by: Special T on January 13, 2019, 09:42:17 AM
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Post by: JWEBB on January 13, 2019, 09:53:42 PM
If you look at the cost and availability of what is out there now. Running an excursion forever is a good idea. My brother is ordering up a fully loaded 7.3 with everything bolted on for about 6k. Its wise to do anything to avoid those deisel emission control crap.
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Yeah I think I’m gonna have to get one this spring when our next little one comes. That extra room would be great along with all the other bonuses