Post by: h2ofowlr on December 05, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
Twin-turbo 2.7 L V6 EcoBoost engine. It delivers 325 hp (242 kW) and 375 lb⋅ft (508 N⋅m).
or
Ford 3.5L EcoBoost V-6 engine
Post by: CP on December 05, 2018, 09:00:25 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 05, 2018, 09:05:57 AM
Post by: WSU on December 05, 2018, 09:16:38 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on December 05, 2018, 09:21:06 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
Post by: Beargravy on December 05, 2018, 09:23:50 AM
Post by: WSU on December 05, 2018, 09:24:23 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
Yes. I tow a 26' model travel trailer (real length 30+) pretty regularly and have towed a large dump trailer full of fire wood. It pulls it fine but you could tell the truck was a little light. Both stopped fine with trailer brakes.
What are you planning to tow?
Post by: vandeman17 on December 05, 2018, 09:28:17 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
Yes. I tow a 26' model travel trailer (real length 30+) pretty regularly and have towed a large dump trailer full of fire wood. It pulls it fine but you could tell the truck was a little light. Both stopped fine with trailer brakes.
What are you planning to tow?
As of now I just have a little trailer so not worried about that but there is the potential for a 3 stall trailer with two horses
Post by: WSU on December 05, 2018, 09:44:26 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
Yes. I tow a 26' model travel trailer (real length 30+) pretty regularly and have towed a large dump trailer full of fire wood. It pulls it fine but you could tell the truck was a little light. Both stopped fine with trailer brakes.
What are you planning to tow?
As of now I just have a little trailer so not worried about that but there is the potential for a 3 stall trailer with two horses
You’d be fine. Forgot to mention I tow a 2 horse trailer with 1-2 cows and it’s totally fine.
Post by: CP on December 05, 2018, 09:56:41 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 05, 2018, 10:49:46 AM
If someone sat you down in one and you drove it for an hour and they said quess which engine you're driving, you couldn't tell the difference.
The 3.5 will have more torque, especially at low revs, but both engines come with the new 10sp tranny and you'll never be at a loss for ratios.
If I was buying a SuperCrew shortbed and knew I'd never tow anything larger than a driftboat, I'd buy the 2.7L.
I bought a SuperCrew 6.5' bed, and it had the 3.5. The 3.5L will have better resale.
3-stall trailer?...I'd get the 3.5 with tow package and trailer brake controller.
Post by: WSU on December 05, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 05, 2018, 11:09:56 AM
Post by: dreadi on December 05, 2018, 11:10:58 AM
While it was at the body shop for repairs due to Seattle hotel valets not knowing how to park, I was given a 2018 F-150 V8. Leaving the lot, I was thrust back into the previous 17 years of my life when I drove a 2000 Chevy Silverado 4.8l V8 and that's when I realized, I should have just got the V8 and skipped the twin turbo hype.
Besides that, I'm still not like the console layout. Buttons and nobs are too small, even with the buttons in the steering I still would rather have the layout I used to have. When I wanted to adjust the climate control, there was a BIG knob.
I still miss my Chevy.
Overall, the Ford has not let me down.
Post by: b23 on December 05, 2018, 12:08:58 PM
I have a 2018 2.7l with 22k on it.MPG is excellent consistently get 23 and power to spare.Only negative is the stupid auto start/stop.
Could be wrong but I thought you could turn that feature off if you wanted to, no?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 05, 2018, 12:21:39 PM
my 17 has a button but it needs pushed each time you driveI have a 2018 2.7l with 22k on it.MPG is excellent consistently get 23 and power to spare.Only negative is the stupid auto start/stop.
Could be wrong but I thought you could turn that feature off if you wanted to, no?
I think sport or towing mode disables it tho. I’ve just gotten used to it
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 05, 2018, 12:28:01 PM
I've owned a 2013 3.5 Ecoboost SuperCrew 6' bed, 4x4, 3.73 gear ratio, max tow package and 36 gallon tank for almost two years now. I haven't had any problems with the truck and the best mileage I get is 21 MPG on a run from McCleary to Tacoma. Getting out past the Columbia heading east the MPG went up to around 24 MPG which gave me over a 600 mile range from almost a full tank. The only complaint I have about the mechanics of the truck is that there's a bit of delay from a dead stop. Put in a cubic yard of soil in the back and it's amplified. It seems to be the turbos spooling up faster to be the cause.My 3.5 has notable more power and torque than my 5.3 pile of bow tie would ever dream of having. You couldn’t pay me to own a Chevy.
While it was at the body shop for repairs due to Seattle hotel valets not knowing how to park, I was given a 2018 F-150 V8. Leaving the lot, I was thrust back into the previous 17 years of my life when I drove a 2000 Chevy Silverado 4.8l V8 and that's when I realized, I should have just got the V8 and skipped the twin turbo hype.
Besides that, I'm still not like the console layout. Buttons and nobs are too small, even with the buttons in the steering I still would rather have the layout I used to have. When I wanted to adjust the climate control, there was a BIG knob.
I still miss my Chevy.
Overall, the Ford has not let me down.
Post by: Alchase on December 05, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
I sold lots of F150s with both 2.7 and 3.5 Ecos.
If someone sat you down in one and you drove it for an hour and they said quess which engine you're driving, you couldn't tell the difference.
The 3.5 will have more torque, especially at low revs, but both engines come with the new 10sp tranny and you'll never be at a loss for ratios.
If I was buying a SuperCrew shortbed and knew I'd never tow anything larger than a driftboat, I'd buy the 2.7L.
I bought a SuperCrew 6.5' bed, and it had the 3.5. The 3.5L will have better resale.
3-stall trailer?...I'd get the 3.5 with tow package and trailer brake controller.
Was is the price hit between the 2.7, 3.5, and the V8?
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 05, 2018, 06:21:29 PM
I sold lots of F150s with both 2.7 and 3.5 Ecos.
If someone sat you down in one and you drove it for an hour and they said quess which engine you're driving, you couldn't tell the difference.
The 3.5 will have more torque, especially at low revs, but both engines come with the new 10sp tranny and you'll never be at a loss for ratios.
If I was buying a SuperCrew shortbed and knew I'd never tow anything larger than a driftboat, I'd buy the 2.7L.
I bought a SuperCrew 6.5' bed, and it had the 3.5. The 3.5L will have better resale.
3-stall trailer?...I'd get the 3.5 with tow package and trailer brake controller.
Was is the price hit between the 2.7, 3.5, and the V8?
It was about the same. Looking at about $33,900 for a 2018 with 10k miles.
Post by: Survival Pack on December 05, 2018, 06:27:49 PM
Post by: Bucks2Ducks on December 05, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
Same price I paid for my 2018 Silverado 5.3 eassist with 3 miles on itI sold lots of F150s with both 2.7 and 3.5 Ecos.
If someone sat you down in one and you drove it for an hour and they said quess which engine you're driving, you couldn't tell the difference.
The 3.5 will have more torque, especially at low revs, but both engines come with the new 10sp tranny and you'll never be at a loss for ratios.
If I was buying a SuperCrew shortbed and knew I'd never tow anything larger than a driftboat, I'd buy the 2.7L.
I bought a SuperCrew 6.5' bed, and it had the 3.5. The 3.5L will have better resale.
3-stall trailer?...I'd get the 3.5 with tow package and trailer brake controller.
Was is the price hit between the 2.7, 3.5, and the V8?
It was about the same. Looking at about $33,900 for a 2018 with 10k miles.
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 06, 2018, 07:15:02 AM
Same price I paid for my 2018 Silverado 5.3 eassist with 3 miles on itI sold lots of F150s with both 2.7 and 3.5 Ecos.
If someone sat you down in one and you drove it for an hour and they said quess which engine you're driving, you couldn't tell the difference.
The 3.5 will have more torque, especially at low revs, but both engines come with the new 10sp tranny and you'll never be at a loss for ratios.
If I was buying a SuperCrew shortbed and knew I'd never tow anything larger than a driftboat, I'd buy the 2.7L.
I bought a SuperCrew 6.5' bed, and it had the 3.5. The 3.5L will have better resale.
3-stall trailer?...I'd get the 3.5 with tow package and trailer brake controller.
Was is the price hit between the 2.7, 3.5, and the V8?
It was about the same. Looking at about $33,900 for a 2018 with 10k miles.
Saving about $12k going this direction.
Post by: dc on December 06, 2018, 07:49:15 AM
Post by: bigmacc on December 06, 2018, 07:23:55 PM
I,ve got the 2.7(bought it new in 2015) and have 28 thousand miles on it and probably 20 thousand are tow miles. We have pulled our trailer(right around 6 ,000 lbs) all over the west with absolutely 0 issues, I get around 11mpg towing and around 20-22 not. My start/stop can be disabled, small button on the dash.
Post by: shootem on December 07, 2018, 12:49:19 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 07, 2018, 07:44:57 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 07, 2018, 08:22:05 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
The 3.5 is a beast when it comes to towing. It's the only way to get the biggest tow rating out of an F150. Curious what concerns you've heard about when towing?
Post by: vandeman17 on December 07, 2018, 08:37:03 AM
I like mine but it's pretty new. Plenty of power for towing and otherwise is as advertised.
This has been my concern as I have heard both good and bad about eco boost towing. You are happy with it?
The 3.5 is a beast when it comes to towing. It's the only way to get the biggest tow rating out of an F150. Curious what concerns you've heard about when towing?
Most the bad I have heard was older models and the motor running hot
Post by: bassquatch on February 03, 2019, 02:15:15 PM
Thanks for the replies. I ordered one up and it should arrive on the 17th. We will see how I like it. Moving from an F-350 down to the F-150.
Just did this, F350 back to a 150. My needs changed and after 12 years in the kidney bashing one ton I wanted a softer ride. My truck only tows my 2,000lb boat from launch to launch so I opted out of Max Tow and FX4 which give you stiffer springs.
Thing rides like a dream, has exactly what I wanted and didn't want cause I factory ordered and will dang near squirt out from underneath you when you romp on it! I'm only at 1500 miles but could not be happier!
3.5L 163 inch wheelbase.
As for auto start/stop, just plug in a trailer test plug and the system thinks you have a trailer hooked up and disengages it...or just push the cancel button on the dash every time. It's engaged by brake pedal pressure so a little lighter at the stop lights and it doesn't even engage. :tup:
Post by: Mossy on February 04, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 04, 2019, 06:58:58 PM
Post by: bassquatch on February 05, 2019, 01:23:43 PM
Post by: J.Brower on February 06, 2019, 06:55:02 PM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 06, 2019, 08:13:25 PM
It's a pickup truck not a Ferrari :chuckle:Just gotta slow down a bit for the corners then!
Post by: Alchase on February 07, 2019, 12:16:50 PM
Is there going to be a glut of high mileage Eco Boosts on the market in the future because they are expensive to replace?
Honest question, not trying to bash them at all, just researching the used market.
Post by: deerlick on February 07, 2019, 01:21:53 PM
Post by: doubletall on February 07, 2019, 03:41:32 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 07, 2019, 05:41:18 PM
just starting to see a lot of them. first one we've had in our shop for failed turbos. $2800 to replace both
How many miles on those failed turbos?
Post by: deerlick on February 07, 2019, 05:47:06 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 08, 2019, 10:19:18 AM
160k
Good information to know,
Thank you
Post by: BDildine on February 08, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
just starting to see a lot of them. first one we've had in our shop for failed turbos. $2800 to replace bothfactory turbos or aftermarket?
Post by: deerlick on February 08, 2019, 01:43:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 08, 2019, 03:45:43 PM
just starting to see a lot of them. first one we've had in our shop for failed turbos. $2800 to replace both@deerlick
Curious to know what you're seeing. Do you work for a Ford dealer? I see a lot of F150's every day and can't say we've done many turbo replacements at all. Definitely not a lot of cases of both turbos failing at the same time.
Post by: Mudman on February 08, 2019, 03:50:26 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 08, 2019, 04:56:03 PM
Post by: deerlick on February 08, 2019, 05:01:58 PM
@deerlick
I can answer that next week. Was diagnosed at a ford dealer and brought to us( independent shop) for repair. It is in our lot awaiting its turn. I will see if he dropped the ford paperwork off with it and read their invoice. Its possible they recommended both. I can say that of all the f-159s we see the 3.5 has had the least issues aside from the newer 5.0.
just starting to see a lot of them. first one we've had in our shop for failed turbos. $2800 to replace both
Curious to know what you're seeing. Do you work for a Ford dealer? I see a lot of F150's every day and can't say we've done many turbo replacements at all. Definitely not a lot of cases of both turbos failing at the same time.
Post by: deerlick on February 08, 2019, 05:03:32 PM
With the factory turbos at $2800, would after market save money or improve on factory?
Thats the price for the whole job out the door. Surprisingly the price for the turbos isnt bad at just under 800 a piece.
Post by: dyhardhuntr on February 08, 2019, 05:15:18 PM
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Post by: deerlick on February 11, 2019, 02:13:18 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2019, 04:04:29 PM
looked at the truck this morning. turbos don't seem to be the problem. it Has broken exhaust manifold bolts so leaks and is setting under boost code.
Thanks for the follow up.
So did someone elsewhere say both turbos need to be replaced because of under-boost fault codes?
Post by: deerlick on February 11, 2019, 05:15:31 PM
Post by: Mossy on November 03, 2019, 04:25:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 03, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
Any new opinions on the gen 2 ecoboost? Had a 13, wasn’t too impressed but interested in the gen 2 with the 10 speed tranny.
What weren’t you impressed with?
I’d be more concerned about whether or not you like the transmission than the engine. It’s a trouble free transmission but a lot of people don’t like the way it shifts all over the place.
We’ve had a few issues with timing components but they’ve been pretty few and far between.
Post by: Mossy on November 03, 2019, 04:55:41 PM
Any new opinions on the gen 2 ecoboost? Had a 13, wasn’t too impressed but interested in the gen 2 with the 10 speed tranny.
What weren’t you impressed with?
I’d be more concerned about whether or not you like the transmission than the engine. It’s a trouble free transmission but a lot of people don’t like the way it shifts all over the place.
We’ve had a few issues with timing components but they’ve been pretty few and far between.
I picked your brain before I sold my 2013. It wasn’t a transmission concern; more engine questions/troubles. My 13 had turbo lag...a lot....with less than 50k.
The rest are just longevity questions and “feel” that doesn’t really warrant a concern so I want to make that clear.
Post by: jackelope on November 03, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
Post by: Mossy on November 03, 2019, 07:37:49 PM
Post by: Pnwrider on November 03, 2019, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: Mossy on November 03, 2019, 08:16:52 PM
I’ve got an ‘18 3.5 eco with the 10 spd trans. Seems to do alright, although mine downshifts a little on the hard side. From Seattle to Winthrop I averaged 23 mpg. Towed my 7500 lb boat from Seattle to Idaho over the summer with no issues, but only got around 10 mpg. I probably won’t want to own this truck out of warranty.
:tup: thanks for the info
Post by: jackelope on November 03, 2019, 08:22:11 PM