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Title: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: ghosthunter on December 06, 2018, 09:32:10 PM
If the crap hits the fan and you have to get out fast with your family. Natural disaster or some kind of attack . What firearms are you taking and why?

Given the roads maybe jammed with cars along most of I 5. You might be reduced to other means of travel. You can’t take the safe full of guns, which ones go with you?



For me

I would take my two Bond Hand Cannons with 9mm, 380, 45 LC/.410 barrels. And a
KSG 12 ga. If room I would throw in the SVE 9 with four 16 ct. mags.

If the stores were being looted I think the common rounds would disappear first like 5.56,223, etc. .410 would maybe be passed over. And 12 ga is common and can be found every where.

What’s your plan?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: JWEBB on December 06, 2018, 09:59:32 PM
Ruger 9mm for close range, and SKS with 37 round mag
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Romulus1297 on December 06, 2018, 10:13:35 PM
Wait never mind you will heading my direction. :yike:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: KFhunter on December 06, 2018, 10:23:01 PM
Oh a good bug out thread  8)


Your requirements for the trip will be very different than your requirements for the arrival.   

Since I've already arrived, I don't have to worry about what to pack, only how to defend it. 
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 06, 2018, 10:34:05 PM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: huntnphool on December 06, 2018, 10:58:07 PM
 Since 594 and 1639 went through I've seen the light and sold all mine. ;)
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Tiger1358 on December 06, 2018, 11:02:03 PM
Since 594 and 1639 went through I've seen the light and sold all mine. ;)

 :bdid: :bdid: :bdid:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Whitpirate on December 06, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
Since 594 and 1639 went through I've seen the light and sold all mine. ;)

Me too
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Special T on December 06, 2018, 11:30:42 PM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

This is an interesting idea that has been displayed in several different Apocalypse films.  Sadly this states wheel weights are mostly Zinc now not lead. I personally love black powder guns.  Then again i like most retro primal things like archery as well.

For this discussion i dont think  guns are important just ammo. IMO a 9mm pistol with a carbine that takes the same mags would be as good as it gets. a close second would be a 357 revolver and a lever gun in the same caliber.

If you want to look at the most realistic issue Washington may face look at the Cascadia rising  earthquake event. the Washington national guard did a simulation test a few years ago, but USED THE CURRENT INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE! imagine life where EVERY bridge to the PCT was collapsed.  pretty scary  and difficult to plan for when you realize life wouldnt return to normal for 5 years on the west side.

I was near the Locks during the Nisqually  quake and that was just a baby. Since i was on a pier it was accentuated.


https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/disaster/cascadia-rising-drill-offers-sobering-assessment-of-future-disaster-response/458379584

Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 06, 2018, 11:39:38 PM
Ruger 10/22 is probably the best option for a true survival apocalypse gun. I would grab that and my Glock 22 if I had to choose two guns, third would be Mini 30 in 7.62x39 , allowed a fourth gun my GAP 7mm Rem mag.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: huntnphool on December 06, 2018, 11:47:58 PM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

This is an interesting idea that has been displayed in several different Apocalypse films.  Sadly this states wheel weights are mostly Zinc now not lead. I personally love black powder guns.  Then again i like most retro primal things like archery as well.

For this discussion i dont think  guns are important just ammo. IMO a 9mm pistol with a carbine that takes the same mags would be as good as it gets. a close second would be a 357 revolver and a lever gun in the same caliber.

 AR15 rifle and Carbon15 Pistol both use the same mags and same round. FN FiveseveN, AR57 and FN P90 all shoot the same round but different mags. 92FS Beretta and Cx4 Storm both shoot the same round with same mags.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: phx2sea on December 07, 2018, 12:20:30 AM
I took way to long to think about this  :dunno: with my roommate g17, g23, ar, ak, shotgun. I feel like you could handle most everything with those guns. From 2 legged critters up to needing to survive off animals up to deer sized game.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Bango skank on December 07, 2018, 04:51:16 AM
Marlin 1894 .357 10 rounds
S&w 627pc .357 8 rounds
S&w 360pd .357 5 rounds
Simplicity.  Common, interchangable ammo for all
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 07, 2018, 05:53:37 AM
I too sold all of my guns to Make America Safe Again. If I still owned any, however, I'd be taking a 10/22, 6.5 Grendel AR, and an XD .45. Damn, I sold all of the ammo, too. On second thought, to keep my family really safe, I know I'll stock up on these:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Rob on December 07, 2018, 06:22:15 AM
Marlin 1894 .357 10 rounds
S&w 627pc .357 8 rounds
S&w 360pd .357 5 rounds
Simplicity.  Common, interchangable ammo for all

Only taking 23 rounds of ammo huh?  Wish I was that great of a shot!  (Kidding of course - I see those are mag/cylinder sizes)  you have the added benefit of 2 kinds of ammo that you could use in at least 2 if not all 3 of them.

For me it would be a rifle in 22LR (probably a scoped takedown 10-22 threaded for suppressor that also has iron sites), a nice solid 12Gauge 870 express, a 357 revolver and a scoped 308 Bolt Action also threaded.

If there was room I'd toss in a 7mm Bolt action and one of those Kel Tec PMR 30's. 
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: birddogdad on December 07, 2018, 08:36:58 AM
ones i have ammo for...
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 07, 2018, 08:40:54 AM
We talking natural disaster or some red dawn type thing?  I need more specifics  :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 07, 2018, 08:48:05 AM
ones i have ammo for...
:yeah: ruger 10/22  ( w ten bricks ammo) , 12 ga, and AR.
Small game - fowl - big game/defense with affordable ammo.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: bigdave on December 07, 2018, 08:50:33 AM
I don't have any guns. ;) If you're thinking about the end.....maybe you should think about OPSEC?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: nutntoit on December 07, 2018, 08:53:27 AM
Had I not lost all of my guns in an unfortunate boating accident, I would take an 223/556 AR with a variable power optic (1-4), 9mm handgun or two or three, 10/22, and a 12ga. That would cover food and defense, plus ammo for those calibers wouldn't be hard to find if need be.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: bornhunter on December 07, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
Now that we know what guns we are taking, where is everybody going. Get out fast, to where?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 07, 2018, 09:11:52 AM
If you live in the right area, no reason to leave.😉
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: CaNINE on December 07, 2018, 09:13:46 AM
AR10

Plenty of 308 ammo  to be acquired by any means necessary.  Capable of taking thin skinned “game” animals with authority.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: bornhunter on December 07, 2018, 09:32:52 AM
 :yeah:
If you live in the right area, no reason to leave.😉
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 07, 2018, 09:38:20 AM
We talking natural disaster or some red dawn type thing?  I need more specifics  :chuckle:
If I know you. You'd be thrilled with a Red Dawn scenario. Wolverines!
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: h20hunter on December 07, 2018, 09:47:05 AM
If and when....none. I don't own any. I believe if I had a moat and current on hand supplies I could enforce a wide perimeter.  7rm for longer range, 223 for closer in, ar10 for mid. Close quarters its 45acp and double ought buck.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Jharstad7182 on December 07, 2018, 10:02:10 AM
My good old reliable 30 06 my ar15 and my Remington 12 ga all my ammo and #4 lead and buck shot of course.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on December 07, 2018, 10:19:52 AM
All my Nerf guns and a super soaker.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Night goat on December 07, 2018, 10:30:34 AM
Id for sure take my 50cal muzzleloaders... Can make your own gun powder with charcoal, sulphur and salt peter/fertilizer, and you can stuff just about anything that fits down the barrel and fire it. I have both a caplock 50 cal pistol and 50 cal rifle, but if I had flintlocks, and bullet molds then the only issue one would ever have is the ability to make your own powder, otherwise it has an endless supply of ammo that is easilly scrounged up from most garages and sheds and hardware stores.....not ideal for a Red Dawn scenario, but you wouldnt go hungry thats for sure

But id also be bringing my AR (wish I had an AK instead), 12ga pump, and a single action 22lr revolver and the 9mm

Wish I also had a 357mag like a redhawk or gp100

Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Night goat on December 07, 2018, 10:33:36 AM
All my Nerf guns and a super soaker.

I made a flamethrower out of a supersoaker once. Kerosene motor oil and a splash of gasoline to thin it down a little works wonders IF you know what you are doing.... Especially if you use one of those giant ones that hold a few gallons... Easilly can get a 30-40 foot flame

Wouldn't rely on it but it will work great til the seals get eaten up by the fuel, has about a 2 week lifespan.... Not that i would know...... :peep: :llam:

Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Pacific on December 07, 2018, 10:35:59 AM
Like Special T said.....I think the most likely scenario here on the west side is earthquake.....and where I live, I'm staying put. On the other hand.....it's likely that my family and I will be at work when it happens, or at least some of us. So, it's more of a get home and get everyone rounded up deal.

So, I carry a small "get home bag" in my truck and whatever weapon I may have on me at the time. Can't be too heavy, because I might be on foot and it might take me a couple days to get home......once there, between us and the neighbors (pretty good community) we would be o.k. for a while.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Alchase on December 07, 2018, 10:50:44 AM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

This is an interesting idea that has been displayed in several different Apocalypse films.  Sadly this states wheel weights are mostly Zinc now not lead. I personally love black powder guns.  Then again i like most retro primal things like archery as well.

For this discussion i dont think  guns are important just ammo. IMO a 9mm pistol with a carbine that takes the same mags would be as good as it gets. a close second would be a 357 revolver and a lever gun in the same caliber.

If you want to look at the most realistic issue Washington may face look at the Cascadia rising  earthquake event. the Washington national guard did a simulation test a few years ago, but USED THE CURRENT INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE! imagine life where EVERY bridge to the PCT was collapsed.  pretty scary  and difficult to plan for when you realize life wouldnt return to normal for 5 years on the west side.

I was near the Locks during the Nisqually  quake and that was just a baby. Since i was on a pier it was accentuated.


https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/disaster/cascadia-rising-drill-offers-sobering-assessment-of-future-disaster-response/458379584



I was in the Boeing Developmental Center when the Nisqually earthquake in 2001.
They immediately closed all bridges and on-ramps until they could be inspected. There is no way out of that valley, without having to go over a bridge or get on an on-ramp.
Everyone was stuck on Meridian in traffic for 4 hours not moving. I could see I-5 a crossed the valley, it was deserted because no one could get on the freeway.
And all the cell towers went offline do to overload.

I know this a tongue and cheek thread, but it would be smart to thinks these things through for all the locations you or your family could be in a disaster.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 07, 2018, 10:57:48 AM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

This is an interesting idea that has been displayed in several different Apocalypse films.  Sadly this states wheel weights are mostly Zinc now not lead. I personally love black powder guns.  Then again i like most retro primal things like archery as well.

For this discussion i dont think  guns are important just ammo. IMO a 9mm pistol with a carbine that takes the same mags would be as good as it gets. a close second would be a 357 revolver and a lever gun in the same caliber.

If you want to look at the most realistic issue Washington may face look at the Cascadia rising  earthquake event. the Washington national guard did a simulation test a few years ago, but USED THE CURRENT INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE! imagine life where EVERY bridge to the PCT was collapsed.  pretty scary  and difficult to plan for when you realize life wouldnt return to normal for 5 years on the west side.

I was near the Locks during the Nisqually  quake and that was just a baby. Since i was on a pier it was accentuated.


https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/disaster/cascadia-rising-drill-offers-sobering-assessment-of-future-disaster-response/458379584



I was in the Boeing Developmental Center when the Nisqually earthquake in 2001.
They immediately closed all bridges and on-ramps until they could be inspected. There is no way out of that valley, without having to go over a bridge or get on an on-ramp.
Everyone was stuck on Meridian in traffic for 4 hours not moving. I could see I-5 a crossed the valley, it was deserted because no one could get on the freeway.
And all the cell towers went offline do to overload.

I know this a tongue and cheek thread, but it would be smart to thinks these things through for all the locations you or your family could be in a disaster.

Don't need an earthquake.  During the last major ice storm winter, I-5 was cut to the south by flooding, IIRC, and I-90 was cut by avalanches.  I shudder to think of a Rainier event implications for the region, much less the worst case earthquake.

If I I didn't also see the light, it would be 870 12 ga., Glock 9 mm, and bolt rifle in .308.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Igor on December 07, 2018, 11:34:20 AM
And, there will be no internet for days, maybe weeks, or longer.  Banks will not be able to communicate with each other, so withdrawing your cash will be difficult, or impossible.  Make sure you have ample cash on hand for all of the necessities, such as ammo, which will become scarce and will become its own form of currency.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 07, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
 :yike: :yike: :yike:

No Cell phones or Social Media. Commodities that can be traded will have a higher value than all the cash you could carry and the debt cards will be in high demand also.

Trying to figure out where this is headed. When this may happen do you have to return to where ever you have the stock pile of mythical arm's we have all destroyed?


Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: ghosthunter on December 07, 2018, 12:02:51 PM
I have carried a small amount of survival items in my truck for years. Thinking I may not be able to get any where else.
Something we all need to think about.

Mount Baker, Rainier, Adams, and earth quakes.

Red dawn possible I guess.  Civil war?????

Since my kids are all grown. My first priority would be to get to my wife. After that all depends on the problem.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 07, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
I now have the fortune to have left Pugetropolis, and all my family that I have responsibility to care for is essentially within a stone's throw or less.  It is a different style of life here in the NE corner, and I am quite fond of the area and the people.

But yes, cash on hand in $20 bills or smaller is a good idea generally for power outages, as well as keeping your tanks above 1/2 tank, having 72 hours to multiple weeks of food and water available or on hand, etc. just seems to be good sense.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Rob on December 07, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
If you are storing food at home to deal with a natural disaster, remember to put it in a place you can find it should the house collapse.  if it is in the basement buried under two stories of house it may as well not exist!

Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Stein on December 07, 2018, 03:22:12 PM
12 gauge with flechettes and dragon’s breath.


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Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: bknilvr00 on December 07, 2018, 03:32:21 PM
I like your style  :tup:
12 gauge with flechettes and dragon’s breath.


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Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: PolarBear on December 07, 2018, 03:42:11 PM
I'm not going anywhere so I get to keep them all.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Night goat on December 07, 2018, 05:12:01 PM
I'm not going anywhere so I get to keep them all.

Yeah, im gonna be loading up my sailboat with my Alaknak and guns and dog and lady and headding for the islands or Alaska if the SHTF
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Alpine Mojo on December 07, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
And, there will be no internet for days, maybe weeks, or longer.

:yike: :yike: :yike:

No Cell phones or Social Media.

F***ing millenials.  They will be the first victims...and they have no idea.

Get off my lawn while you have the chance.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 07, 2018, 05:49:06 PM
There are an extremely small number of scenarios where bugging out is the right thing to do. Your energy is better spent thinking about how to fortify your home and stock enough supplies to wait out trouble.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Special T on December 07, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
I'm not going anywhere so I get to keep them all.

Yeah, im gonna be loading up my sailboat with my Alaknak and guns and dog and lady and headding for the islands or Alaska if the SHTF
If there is the cascadia event quake you boat will likely be toothpicks or placed on dry land some distance from normal high tide line. 2c

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Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Special T on December 07, 2018, 05:59:35 PM
One of the guns that should be included is a break action shot gun.   I really like my stage coach side by side... why do you ask? A shot gun is truly the 1 multipurpose gun and a a sing or double barrel can do stuff a pump or auto cannot.

 Cut shotshells and wax slugs work better out of a beach loader.  While a cut shell isnt as good as a slug of any kind, you can almost always find bird shot. Not to mention a double barrel doesnt really meet the scary black gun threshold. I've played with using plain trap shells and replacing the pellets with home poured buckshot and  key drive slugs. So far I've been impressed with the basic utility of this setup.



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Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: meatwhack on December 07, 2018, 07:29:16 PM
When the end comes I’m putting my faith in something other than guns. That’s just going to buy you time for the inevitable.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: PolarBear on December 07, 2018, 08:19:20 PM
There are an extremely small number of scenarios where bugging out is the right thing to do. Your energy is better spent thinking about how to fortify your home and stock enough supplies to wait out trouble.
:yeah:
Already ahead of it, that's why I'm staying put.  ;)
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: lokidog on December 07, 2018, 08:36:11 PM
If you live in the right area, no reason to leave.😉

That's what I was going to say... I'm not going anywhere.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Igor on December 08, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
Interesting article on the subject:

Psychology of SHTF Survival

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2018/12/02/psychology-shtf-survival/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2018-12-09&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on December 08, 2018, 09:37:16 AM
Trusting that your "Zombie Apocalypse" happens while I'm still young enough to pull the trigger on my favorite "Weapon of Choice". I choose a gun that will either wear out or break, long before I run out of Ammo.
 Albeit said Gun would not be my "first choice" in a gunfight, but as a survival tool in a "no rules scenario" where harvesting food will be first on the agenda, I would choose.......



Years Back, a friend of mine, (who farms in Eastern Washington,) had his 10 year old Son come to him with this question, (after receiving his first gun for Christmas)
"Dad, if I were to shoot a Deer in the eye, would it kill it?"  :hunt2:

"Well, Son, if you were a good enough shot and you could sneak up close enough to hit it in the eye.....there is a chance that it could likely be killed."

With that his son smiling, took off, headed down toward the creek.

Not thinking much about it, my friend continued the job he was working on.
 Until after a few hours went by, looking up he spotted his son running back up the hill all excited.  :hello:

"Dad, Dad, I got my Deer!" he proudly announced.
"What do you mean you got your deer? Deer Season isn't even open!" :yike:

Doing what he felt he was obligated to do, he got on the phone and let the "Powers to Be" know what had happened.

"You say your Son just shot a Doe in the eye with his BB Gun on your own property and she is hanging in your barn now?"

"Yes Sir, and my son and I have just had a "Man to Man" talk about obeying the Law and the consequence's of not following the Rules".

"Fine!  Now I know your family has been struggling to make ends meet lately and if there is a deer hanging out of sight in your barn instead of raiding your crops......and if I don't hear anymore about this....well, I'm sure your family could use the meat."

 "You let your Son know that we agree, this will not be happening again!......and by the way, you can tell him from me..... "NICE SHOT"



( I'll be taking my BB GUN!)
Doug


Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: lokidog on December 08, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
How many pumps until the seal wears out in the BB gun?   ;)
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Alchase on December 08, 2018, 04:52:29 PM
I have a Crossman 760 in my garage that I bought at 12 from Pay-N-Pak.
Shoots perfectly fine, lol
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on December 08, 2018, 07:11:56 PM
How many pumps until the seal wears out in the BB gun?   ;)

I can always call for backup.  :tup:
Doug
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 08, 2018, 07:31:36 PM
I have a Crossman 760 in my garage that I bought at 12 from Pay-N-Pak.
Shoots perfectly fine, lol
I have a 760 that I got 36 years ago and works like new.
Never replaced anything on it.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: PolarBear on December 08, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
I have 12 or 14 Daisy Red Rider BB guns (Daughter and I have won a lot of tournaments).  We could live on birds and small game for years if we needed to.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 08, 2018, 10:18:31 PM
You'll put your eye out.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: PolarBear on December 08, 2018, 10:37:20 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: shootem on December 08, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
Actually, it is an interesting thought about a mid caliber(.24-.30 caliber) high end air rifle for armageddon. If you have a couple thousand projectiles the propellant is endless. The guns can do plenty of damage. Have some replacement seals/O rings on hand and I am sure you can go forever. I think I just convinced myself to buy one. Anybody have any experience with these?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: huntnphool on December 08, 2018, 11:57:17 PM
Actually, it is an interesting thought about a mid caliber(.24-.30 caliber) high end air rifle for armageddon. If you have a couple thousand projectiles the propellant is endless. The guns can do plenty of damage. Have some replacement seals/O rings on hand and I am sure you can go forever. I think I just convinced myself to buy one. Anybody have any experience with these?

 You won't need anything except your credentials, Dr's will be protected like gold.....it's layers that had better have a good plan. :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: shootem on December 09, 2018, 12:02:10 AM
LOL. Hope all is well huntnphool.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 09, 2018, 05:26:15 PM
If anyone thinks they are going to take the apocalypse as an opportunity to catch up on their hunting and fishing, I've got bad news.

If the cities are evacuated (which they probably won't be), then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas and the very first thing they are going to do is kill absolutely every wild animal they come across.  If you are hunting anything, its going to be dogs and rats.

Being killed by a lunatic in this new Mad Max world of ours is actually pretty far down the list of dangers. Disease, exposure and thirst are going to kill way more people than bullets.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Bofire on December 09, 2018, 05:41:16 PM
if "the end" comes you'll be dead, me too.
Carl
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 09, 2018, 05:47:53 PM
If anyone thinks they are going to take the apocalypse as an opportunity to catch up on their hunting and fishing, I've got bad news.

If the cities are evacuated (which they probably won't be), then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas and the very first thing they are going to do is kill absolutely every wild animal they come across.  If you are hunting anything, its going to be dogs and rats.

Being killed by a lunatic in this new Mad Max world of ours is actually pretty far down the list of dangers. Disease, exposure and thirst are going to kill way more people than bullets.

What are they going to kill with, they hate guns.🤔
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fishnfowler on December 09, 2018, 06:07:02 PM
I'm not taking any guns, ammo will be the money of the future.  I have a truck loaded with 223, 9mm, and 7.56 ammo.  I'm planning on defending it with angry Grandmothers, nothing gets by them.  I'll feed the grannies with zombie meat to keep them onry.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 09, 2018, 06:37:58 PM
If anyone thinks they are going to take the apocalypse as an opportunity to catch up on their hunting and fishing, I've got bad news.

If the cities are evacuated (which they probably won't be), then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas and the very first thing they are going to do is kill absolutely every wild animal they come across.  If you are hunting anything, its going to be dogs and rats.

Being killed by a lunatic in this new Mad Max world of ours is actually pretty far down the list of dangers. Disease, exposure and thirst are going to kill way more people than bullets.

That’s why the thoroughfares should be closed first.

:twocents:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 09, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
If anyone thinks they are going to take the apocalypse as an opportunity to catch up on their hunting and fishing, I've got bad news.

If the cities are evacuated (which they probably won't be), then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas and the very first thing they are going to do is kill absolutely every wild animal they come across.  If you are hunting anything, its going to be dogs and rats.

Being killed by a lunatic in this new Mad Max world of ours is actually pretty far down the list of dangers. Disease, exposure and thirst are going to kill way more people than bullets.

That’s why the thoroughfares should be closed first.

:twocents:

You mean the freeways? Those are how relief efforts are going to move aid around. They will be open or the National Guard will open them.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 09, 2018, 06:44:38 PM
So urbanites will be fleeing the relief efforts?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 09, 2018, 06:46:43 PM
Actually, it is an interesting thought about a mid caliber(.24-.30 caliber) high end air rifle for armageddon. If you have a couple thousand projectiles the propellant is endless. The guns can do plenty of damage. Have some replacement seals/O rings on hand and I am sure you can go forever. I think I just convinced myself to buy one. Anybody have any experience with these?

 You won't need anything except your credentials, Dr's will be protected like gold.....it's lawyers that had better have a good plan. :chuckle:

:cryriver:

:chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 09, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
So urbanites will be fleeing the relief efforts?

I doubt it. Some people might bug out to the hills, but the majority will stay put. What I said before was just a specific scenario.

But I do think it would be very counter productive for rural residents to shut down the freeways.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 09, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
"then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas."

"Some people might bug out to the hills, but the majority will stay put."

Reconcile, please.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 09, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
"then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas."

"Some people might bug out to the hills, but the majority will stay put."

Reconcile, please.

In reality, I do not think there will be a mass exodus from the cities.

I said that stuff before because I was trying to prove a point that I can't remember now.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 09, 2018, 07:03:47 PM
Fair enough.  It wouldn't take much to close down PS thoroughfares.  Normal traffic pretty much sees to it.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Mongo Hunter on December 24, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
Depends on the parameters. If I can use my vehicle Im taking everything I can pack, AR's, Bolt guns, shotguns Ect. But assuming Im limited like I'm on foot. AR 5.56, Sig p320 9mm and throwing my plates on. Going to try and stay as light as possible but still be able to throw crap down range.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: KFhunter on December 24, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
"then hundreds of thousands of refugees are going to start pouring into the rural areas."

"Some people might bug out to the hills, but the majority will stay put."

Reconcile, please.

In reality, I do not think there will be a mass exodus from the cities.

I said that stuff before because I was trying to prove a point that I can't remember now.

So you don't know what you're talking about...good news is no one really does in subjects like these as no two Apocalypses are the same. 


If I were on the west side of the Cascade crest I'd be worried about a massive earthquakes, eruptions and tsunami (and all the above at once)..that would be my #1 mass kill off scenario. 
In such a scenario roads will probably be impassable, if a big enough quake hits and the dams go and hills slide...well.  /shudder

Every location has it's issues and threats. 


For national collapse due to overwhelming social disorder it might be better to be in a urban area, you will get aid.  Those out in the country will be the last to get government help as they'll triage by population density.  This could be a good thing *if* you're out in the country and able to deal with it...helloooo fishin n huntin!   but I think most people living rural will not be able to cope with a collapse.

For global WWIII I think the nation will come together like post 9/11 and set aside our differences, there might even be a soft coup as with Truman and MacArthur, the latter disobeying orders and taking North Korea..which put China into the fray.   


As an aside..If you think Mattis leaving was a big deal....
On 11 April 1951, U.S. President Harry S. Truman relieved General of the Army Douglas MacArthur of his commands after MacArthur made public statements which contradicted the administration's policies.

Whatever power play that happens will happen and the whole nation will be in a war footing, we're talking a revival of the US Sedition act, national curfew/martial law, conscription (draft) the whole works.








Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 24, 2018, 10:34:33 PM
Good points.

A few others:

PS shuts down with an inch or so of snow.  This is a normal occurrence.  Even a stiff rain can set things awty.

Rain routinely shuts down rail traffic with slides.

Yes, relief efforts would be focused on population centers.  So would societal unrest.

No two apocalypses are the same, but it helps to look at parallels to recent history.

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/shtf-bosnia-selco-americans/
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: HawkCreek on December 26, 2018, 09:51:52 PM
The guns I carry in my trucks get cycled around but it's always between the same ones. Either a no-dash 686 in .357, a .45 Colt single action or a Glock 10mm (most recently it's been the Glock). With a few speed loaders or magazines and a box or so worth of loose cartridges plus some snakeshot for the revolvers.
Rifles are either a Ruger GSR, Winchester 94AE Trapper in .30-30 or a Winchester 1895 in .30-06 (usually the .30-06). I keep a magazine or two loaded for the GSR the other two just get a couple boxes of loose rounds in the console.
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: brush hunter on December 29, 2018, 08:13:08 AM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

Good choice as you can make your own black powder.


Myself...Why would I leave? My arsenal is here and I have a lot of liberals living in the area, I will just take what I need from them!
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: BNAElkhntr on December 29, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
Ruger Old Army of course! Plenty of bullet lead from wheel weights off people’s abandoned cars. Load it with anything, BP, Pyro, Smokeless, it doesnt care (Bill Ruger proved that years ago). 10000 caps in a sandwich bag. Loaded for life!  :tup:

Good choice as you can make your own black powder.


Myself...Why would I leave? My arsenal is here and I have a lot of liberals living in the area, I will just take what I need from them!


Always been my plan  :tup:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: wags on December 29, 2018, 08:37:02 PM
Would anybody who truly has a bug-out plan really post it on here and tell the whole world?
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Mudman on December 29, 2018, 08:43:06 PM
Would anybody who truly has a bug-out plan really post it on here and tell the whole world?
:yeah: Kinda what I was thinking too..  MMM's the word! Im out to my bunker in the Olympics now..  :chuckle:
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: Night goat on January 03, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
Id get something big and long range for holding down a mountain pass
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: paultanninen on January 10, 2019, 10:14:01 AM
c'mon i got a pickup and know the backroads, i'm a takin alla dem
Title: Re: When the end comes, what guns are you taking?
Post by: konradcountry on January 12, 2019, 08:25:28 AM
For national collapse due to overwhelming social disorder it might be better to be in a urban area, you will get aid. 

Doubt that for any West coast city.

Seattle panics when there is a little snow on the ground.

If the highways are blocked then the trucks won't be able to get in.

If there is a disaster then everyone in Seattle will try to flee to their rural friend/relative's house. The roads will lock up and people will panic. Criminals will immediately exploit the unarmed Seattle libs. Not going to be pretty.
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