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Title: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: boneaddict on December 12, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
Of course they first made it sound bad......



http://methowvalleynews.com/2018/12/12/cinder-the-bear-fire-survivor-and-worldwide-inspiration-is-dead/ (http://methowvalleynews.com/2018/12/12/cinder-the-bear-fire-survivor-and-worldwide-inspiration-is-dead/)
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: WSU on December 12, 2018, 01:43:16 PM
That's kind of a bummer.  Wonder why the hunter didn't call it in?
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: boneaddict on December 12, 2018, 01:50:34 PM
Could have recognized the bear and didn’t want the negative press.  May not have wanted to mess with it...may not have had a tag. ??? Forgot it while packing up. Decided not to take for weight purposes....
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: boneaddict on December 12, 2018, 02:16:49 PM
The comments astound me.   :yike:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: jrebel on December 12, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
Twice cooked bear???  Works for potatoes.....  Not to mention the natural smoke...... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  Joking of course.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Really...just joking.   :peep:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Crunchy on December 12, 2018, 09:20:17 PM
Long store about one bear.  I had to stop at paragraph 2.  Must be short on things to write about.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: RockChuck on December 13, 2018, 05:37:55 AM
Wow.. to soon... don’t be so insensitive!!  :yike:



jk I’m lmao!!!! And a bit hungry now!   :chuckle:


Twice cooked bear???  Works for potatoes.....  Not to mention the natural smoke...... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  Joking of course.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Really...just joking.   :peep:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: luckyman on December 13, 2018, 05:55:04 AM
I see they they said it appeared the meat had been taken. Not sure why it a new story.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: birddogdad on December 13, 2018, 06:16:07 AM
time to rename this bear!
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: boneaddict on December 13, 2018, 06:45:20 AM
 :cue:  Should we call him Cue instead. LOL


im telling you, you want entertainment, read the comments on socail media.  Holy smokes.   I think most of them only read half of the article as well, because most of them didnt get to the part where the meat and hide were taken.   
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: TRD1911 on December 13, 2018, 07:12:53 AM
That's actually an informative article compared the the garbage that KOMO posted on their FB page. There's literally people saying that they hope the hunter's children get shot as a form of cosmic karma. Unreal. Summary - Bear is shot, meat is taken, collar is left behind and not called in (not legally required). No crime, non-story. The mental state of so many in Washington amazes me.

https://komonews.com/news/local/cinder-the-bear-who-survived-severe-wildfire-burns-found-shot-dead (https://komonews.com/news/local/cinder-the-bear-who-survived-severe-wildfire-burns-found-shot-dead)
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 13, 2018, 08:20:43 AM
If I had shot that bear I would of gotten it mounted with a collar and a name tag. The hunter should be proud, I’m actually surprised it took 2 years before the bears death.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: kellama2001 on December 13, 2018, 08:26:44 AM
Well they certainly tried their best to humanize the bear and demonize the hunter in this article. Even their admission that everything the hunter did was legal seemed begrudging.  It's so frustrating the way they try to spin everything. And I refuse to read the comments on stories like this...my blood pressure can't take it  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 13, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
If I had shot that bear I would of gotten it mounted with a collar and a name tag. The hunter should be proud, I’m actually surprised it took 2 years before the bears death.

 :chuckle: name tag... hillarious
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 13, 2018, 08:44:09 AM
I’m genuinely happy that they got to give the bear a new chance to be a bear and I’m sure the bear appreciated that. But it was still a wild animal and subject to the rules of nature. Congrats to the hunter and I don’t blame them one bit for not calling the collar in
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: pashok23 on December 13, 2018, 10:28:00 PM
Twice cooked bear???  Works for potatoes.....  Not to mention the natural smoke...... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  Joking of course.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Really...just joking.   :peep:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 14, 2018, 04:58:15 AM
Come on it was released back into the wild what do they think might happen. I have seen other bears with collars like a hunter is going to be able to tell this one from any other and if it was such a representative of the Complex fire put it in a zoo and protect it.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: WildlifeAssassin on December 14, 2018, 01:21:06 PM
The more people that read this article the more it will be promoted. Shhhhh, don’t give the mental midgets any more ammo.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on December 14, 2018, 01:28:43 PM

im telling you, you want entertainment, read the comments on socail media.  Holy smokes.   I think most of them only read half of the article as well, because most of them didnt get to the part where the meat and hide were taken.

@boneaddict, I've been reading those too.  It's a combination of vegetarians (which I can respect), meat eaters who think hunting is wrong (which I can't), people who didn't actually read the article (which I refuse to), and a few hunters  :tup:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2018, 02:04:51 PM
I wouldn't report it either!

I seen what the ranchers went through when WDFW culled wolves that were killing livestock.  Death threats on their phones, cut fences, shot cattle, gates left open, salt blocks removed all kinds of bad things started happening with a frequency far beyond a typical ranching year. 


heck with that, and look at the comments on the article,  would you want your name leaked to the public?
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Guy on December 21, 2018, 04:22:30 PM
Too bad the hunter didn't just chuck the collar in the trash instead of leaving it there.

Legal game animal, likely taken legally.

Notice how anytime an animal achieves some notoriety, it's a bad thing when it's killed: Cinder the bear, some danged wolf just outside Yellowstone, Charlie the lion or whatever his name was.... Each of those became special cases for the anti-hunters.

My advice? Don't shoot animals that have been named! ;)

Or, toss the collar in the trash.

Guy
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: bradslam on December 21, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
Well they certainly tried their best to humanize the bear and demonize the hunter in this article. Even their admission that everything the hunter did was legal seemed begrudging.  It's so frustrating the way they try to spin everything. And I refuse to read the comments on stories like this...my blood pressure can't take it  :chuckle:

Sorry, but I didn't see anything in the article that tried to demonize the hunter.  Even the rehab people that were quoted seemed very accepting of the situation.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: idaho guy on December 21, 2018, 06:53:10 PM
Too bad the hunter didn't just chuck the collar in the trash instead of leaving it there.

Legal game animal, likely taken legally.

Notice how anytime an animal achieves some notoriety, it's a bad thing when it's killed: Cinder the bear, some danged wolf just outside Yellowstone, Charlie the lion or whatever his name was.... Each of those became special cases for the anti-hunters.

My advice? Don't shoot animals that have been named! ;)

Or, toss the collar in the trash.

Guy



I was thinking note to self don’t ever shoot an animal that has a name! First bullwinkle, Cecil the lion and now cinder! You are supposed to hook those collars to mud Flap on a truckers diesel. That way the biologist can have fun explaining how the animal migrated to Alabama   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Odell on December 21, 2018, 07:17:29 PM
I actually think I have a really good idea about who shot him but I wouldn't wish that info getting out on my worst enemy
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 21, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
The animal lovers name a bear, rehabilitate it, release back into the wild, gets legally killed and they come unglued. To bad, so sad.


One other thing, these animal lovers need to stop humanizing these animals and stop naming them. They are wild animals.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Bullkllr on December 21, 2018, 07:25:37 PM
Good  Lord. Scary what is accepted as reality by some.

SMH
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: KFhunter on December 21, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
Well they certainly tried their best to humanize the bear and demonize the hunter in this article. Even their admission that everything the hunter did was legal seemed begrudging.  It's so frustrating the way they try to spin everything. And I refuse to read the comments on stories like this...my blood pressure can't take it  :chuckle:

Sorry, but I didn't see anything in the article that tried to demonize the hunter.  Even the rehab people that were quoted seemed very accepting of the situation.

They didn't need too, all they had to do was release the news and let events unfold. 


They could have kept it under wraps and not said anything....
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 27, 2018, 03:29:49 PM
I actually think I have a really good idea about who shot him but I wouldn't wish that info getting out on my worst enemy

Congratulate him for me on killing a bear.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: EmeraldBullet on December 27, 2018, 03:52:10 PM
You guys have to realize that after the movie free willy, which is a fictional story, it 'inspired' the uninformed to stir up a frenzy.  The whale that starred in the movie, and basically only knew captivity in its entire life, was demanded to be flown to iceland or somewhere (where they hunt whales ironically) to be released with its family. Even after many millions of dollars spent the whale could not be taught how to eat in the wild (feed itself), its family swam away from it and it died.

But yeah, once an animal is given a name and a personality, its almost like it becomes a character, not an animal. The way people handle these situations is ridiculous to me.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: EmeraldBullet on December 27, 2018, 04:00:21 PM
You guys have to realize that after the movie free willy, which is a fictional story, it 'inspired' the uninformed to stir up a frenzy.  The whale that starred in the movie, and basically only knew captivity in its entire life, was demanded to be flown to iceland or somewhere (where they hunt whales ironically) to be released with its family. Even after many millions of dollars spent the whale could not be taught how to eat in the wild (feed itself), its family swam away from it and it died.

But yeah, once an animal is given a name and a personality, its almost like it becomes a character, not an animal. The way people handle these situations is ridiculous to me.

I think so much of it is a disconnect from actual nature. Most people live in cities these days, few people hunt or fish or even hike. The vast majority of our populations don't understand nature at all, they have never even experienced it for more than a couple hours maybe. And whatever they are shown on TV. 
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: jasnt on December 27, 2018, 05:35:16 PM
I wouldn't report it either!

I seen what the ranchers went through when WDFW culled wolves that were killing livestock.  Death threats on their phones, cut fences, shot cattle, gates left open, salt blocks removed all kinds of bad things started happening with a frequency far beyond a typical ranching year. 


heck with that, and look at the comments on the article,  would you want your name leaked to the public?
:yeah:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 28, 2018, 10:07:58 AM
My buddy shot Cinder
Met her on Tinder
Thought she looked tender
Decided to ender
Now she's in his freezer
Weekly he eatzer
It drives the ARFs crazy
But boy, is she tasty
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on December 28, 2018, 10:28:05 AM
How have we not addressed trichinosis on this thread yet?

Surely that bear was trich-free considering it was already cooked at one point.

Curtis
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: huntingfool7 on December 28, 2018, 12:07:00 PM
Why wouldn't you take the collar?  Even if you didn't want it, it could have gone on the bumper of a truck at the Flying J.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Tradhunter on January 02, 2019, 08:10:37 PM
Congrats to the hunter who got the bear. I would of slipped the collar off and put it in Inslee's garbage can.
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Dan-o on January 02, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
My buddy shot Cinder
Met her on Tinder
Thought she looked tender
Decided to ender
Now she's in his freezer
Weekly he eatzer
It drives the ARFs crazy
But boy, is she tasty

 :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Who here Shot Cinder?
Post by: Alchase on January 02, 2019, 08:35:45 PM
How have we not addressed trichinosis on this thread yet?

Surely that bear was trich-free considering it was already cooked at one point.

Curtis

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