Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 06:14:30 PM
And any tips for a first time build?
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 14, 2018, 06:44:08 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 06:48:19 PM
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on December 14, 2018, 06:48:29 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 14, 2018, 06:52:52 PM
But I guess a 7 would be alright, just not as awesome :chuckle:
For me anything larger than 300 win I would just jump to a large case 338. :twocents:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 06:57:54 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on December 14, 2018, 07:08:47 PM
And shoot it into retirement.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 14, 2018, 07:10:38 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 14, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 07:18:06 PM
Your starting at the wrong end. Which bullet do you want to shoot? How fast do you want to push it? Which cartridges will get you to that point?This is why I started this thread...I'm honestly not sure. I'm just starting to get into reloading and have only done 2 different calibers and both partitions. I've read great things about the Berger's, figured I'd start with those and see how those shot
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 07:20:13 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 14, 2018, 07:25:18 PM
Or even a 6.5-284 could be a good option.
The larger magnums (300 included) aren’t the funnest things for long range sessions compared to the smaller lighter recoiling and less blast type rounds.
So basically you need 2 custom guns. A small one and a big awesome one. :yike:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 14, 2018, 07:26:11 PM
.264, .284, .308, .338 all have excellent choices for high bc target and hunting bullets.Your starting at the wrong end. Which bullet do you want to shoot? How fast do you want to push it? Which cartridges will get you to that point?This is why I started this thread...I'm honestly not sure. I'm just starting to get into reloading and have only done 2 different calibers and both partitions. I've read great things about the Berger's, figured I'd start with those and see how those shot
Post by: syoungs on December 14, 2018, 07:26:36 PM
Gotta have an idea with what you want the end goal to be.
I'm building a rifle for deer, elk, bear and antelope. My choice was a 300wm shooting 215 bergers. Knowing I'm pushing heavier bullets I'm going to ensure j have at least a 1-10 twist, and a mag setup that will let me seat long enough without eating case capacity.
And yes I know its overkill for antelope and most deer, but I've also got a 6.5 creed to use when I dont need the 215s and long range.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 07:34:06 PM
Post by: carvermoe on December 14, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 14, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2018, 08:02:23 PM
north 40 has one on sale :tup:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 14, 2018, 08:10:15 PM
Post by: NWShooter on December 14, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
Your starting at the wrong end. Which bullet do you want to shoot? How fast do you want to push it? Which cartridges will get you to that point?
:tup:
I would start with a 215gr .30 Cal Berger and go from there.
Post by: jrebel on December 14, 2018, 08:35:43 PM
Good luck finding your caliber...there are many that will fit the bill.
Post by: Taco280AI on December 14, 2018, 09:17:15 PM
I ended up with a 300 win mag and love it. I was reminded of why I didn't like the 7 mag this year when my neighbor shot his deer.....man the blood shot was something else. Never seen a 7 mag not make a mess of a deer. Effective but a mess....and my 300 pushing heavies a little slower doesn't make near the mess.
Good luck finding your caliber...there are many that will fit the bill.
What bullet? That matters far more important than the cartridge
Post by: jrebel on December 14, 2018, 09:30:35 PM
I ended up with a 300 win mag and love it. I was reminded of why I didn't like the 7 mag this year when my neighbor shot his deer.....man the blood shot was something else. Never seen a 7 mag not make a mess of a deer. Effective but a mess....and my 300 pushing heavies a little slower doesn't make near the mess.
Good luck finding your caliber...there are many that will fit the bill.
What bullet? That matters far more important than the cartridge
Not sure what bullet they were using but I have never seen a bullet out of a 7 mm not destroy meat. This deer was shot behind the shoulder and it still blood shot 3/4 the off side shoulder.
Post by: NWShooter on December 15, 2018, 12:40:06 AM
I ended up with a 300 win mag and love it. I was reminded of why I didn't like the 7 mag this year when my neighbor shot his deer.....man the blood shot was something else. Never seen a 7 mag not make a mess of a deer. Effective but a mess....and my 300 pushing heavies a little slower doesn't make near the mess.
Good luck finding your caliber...there are many that will fit the bill.
What bullet? That matters far more important than the cartridge
Not sure what bullet they were using but I have never seen a bullet out of a 7 mm not destroy meat. This deer was shot behind the shoulder and it still blood shot 3/4 the off side shoulder.
Hmmmmmmm. Can't think of a bullet that hasn't destroyed meat. On at least three continents .🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Post by: Reidus on December 15, 2018, 12:56:21 AM
Post by: NWShooter on December 15, 2018, 01:13:14 AM
280ai is an awesome round!
Almost on par with a super efficient, superior case design 7mm WSM.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2018, 07:04:57 AM
Post by: The scout on December 15, 2018, 07:29:28 AM
Post by: hogslayer on December 15, 2018, 07:35:26 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on December 15, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
280AI:tup:
This is the caliber I've been researching for my next rifle.
Post by: opdinkslayer on December 15, 2018, 08:02:23 AM
Ive put alot of thought into what I would build for a do it all one gun custom build even though the loot to do so still evades me. I would have to agree with the guys that say it starts with a 3 if elk are involved even tho im sure some of the 7's are more than adequate. A 300 wm set up for 215's would be my first choice and if not that I would jump clear to a 338 edge and a 300 gr bullet. I've never experienced anything get too dead so there's no such thing as overkill if you want the ability to kill animals out past 800 yds and targets way beyond that. :dunno: :twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2018, 08:26:50 AM
I think the important thing is to be very realistic I thought your uses are going to be. It takes an immense amount of practice to be proficient enough to kill animals at longer distances and I highly discourage most to shoot past about 500 yards as that seems to be the point where stuff really starts to get complicated.
With the big magnums or even the "smaller" magnums, recoil is an issue even with a good brake. I'd rather see a guy shoot a snappy 6.5 and practice more than strap up to a big boomer he cant shoot well because it kicks his ass. I've seen coachcw kill stuff with his 6.5x284 at ranges way out there so the smaller stuff is more than enough gun for most any chore. Especially that sub 700 yard stuff.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 15, 2018, 08:55:59 AM
A wise man once told me overkill is under rated :chuckle::yeah:
I think the important thing is to be very realistic I thought your uses are going to be. It takes an immense amount of practice to be proficient enough to kill animals at longer distances and I highly discourage most to shoot past about 500 yards as that seems to be the point where stuff really starts to get complicated.
With the big magnums or even the "smaller" magnums, recoil is an issue even with a good brake. I'd rather see a guy shoot a snappy 6.5 and practice more than strap up to a big boomer he cant shoot well because it kicks his ass. I've seen coachcw kill stuff with his 6.5x284 at ranges way out there so the smaller stuff is more than enough gun for most any chore. Especially that sub 700 yard stuff.
Post by: jasnt on December 15, 2018, 09:11:22 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2018, 11:54:44 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 15, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
Post by: b23 on December 15, 2018, 02:51:25 PM
Any of the larger 30 cals like the 300Win mag, 30 Nosler or 300 RUM slinging bullets like the 215 Bergers will be a great all around LR choice. If you want to push a little heavier bullet, the 338 Edge would be another excellent choice, but from the sounds of things, I think one of those 30 cals will do everything you want, and then some.
Post by: Wild Bill on December 15, 2018, 04:43:19 PM
Ive killed critters with it to 600, and it had plenty of gas if a guy "wanted" to go farther.
I don't really like shooting game animals much past 400, but that gun is more than capable, and flat fun to shoot.
Its all preference man.. Just for the love of god, skip the 6.5. Its like Nickel Back 15 yrs ago. Just annoying. :chuckle: :chuckle:
WB
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 15, 2018, 04:58:26 PM
Post by: Wild Bill on December 15, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
How is .264 annoying? :dunno:
its not. i just don't have one :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 16, 2018, 07:20:26 AM
.264's all with 140gr bergers
6.5x284
6.5 saum
6.5 prc
.284's with 168 bergers
280AI
7 saum
300 win mag with 215 bergers
Currently my go to is a 300wsm. Shooting 185gr hunting vkd's at 3110fps. It's a fine round and very nice to shoot. Short action saves some weight too but a lone peak arms Ti long action will save you the same weight vs a rem 700 short.
If I was gonna build a new one right this second it would be a 338 norma improved. Overkill is underrated and 300gr bullets are king when it comes to sending it downtown.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 16, 2018, 07:42:07 AM
Post by: jjhunter on December 16, 2018, 09:07:20 AM
I’m gonna try the 6.5 prc in the Christensen arms ridgeline this year. I have an extra Nightforce NXS laying around and think it will make a pretty good mountain rifle.
So many cool calibers to play with now - especially with all the quality bullets available. The 300 win with 215’s is another combo I would look hard at.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 16, 2018, 01:15:01 PM
Post by: yorketransport on December 16, 2018, 01:26:20 PM
If you wanted a light weight (sub 9# ready to hunt) gun I wouldn't recommend any of the 338s. If you're thinking about a heavy gun (12# or more) I'd suggest going with a 300 Win Mag or larger. From there you need to decide what style of hunting you do the most. Are you going to setup on a hill side and glass a valley, or do you do a lot of still hunting in the timber and just want to be able to reach out when the opportunity presents itself?
Once you've decided what style of rifle to build you can start to pick the barrel length. If you spend much time in the timber or brush, a 28" barrel will drive you nuts. If you spend most of your time out in the open though a 28" barrel would work fine. I consider a 24" barrel long for my style of hunting and I lean more towards 20" barrels when I can.
After you've decided on a barrel length you can start to consider your caliber. If you want a 20" barrel but still want a legitimate 1000 yard hunting gun you'll need to go with a large cartridge to offset the velocity lost in the short barrel. That's when I'd start looking at the RUM sized cases. I'd be comfortable out to 1000 yards on elk with a 20" barreled 338 or 300 RUM with the right bullet.
The last consideration is your shooting budget. This is separate from the budget you have to build the gun. Some chamberings like the 300 Win Mag or 7mm Rem Mag are significantly less expensive to shoot and load for. If you plan to practice a lot then a 338 anything gets very expensive. The same goes for some of the other magnums like the Nosler or RUMs, brass gets expensive fast. Also remember to take into account barrel life if you get into the small bore (under 30 caliber) magnums. You can burn out a 7 Rem Mag in a year depending on your shooting style and schedule. A 300 Win Mag will go a few more rounds before it's smoked. I've seen a lot of guys lately jump on the Nosler (26 or 28 versions) bandwagon and then get caught off guard when their barrel won't hold MOA after 800-1000 rounds. Barrel life is just something that needs to be considered when you look at the true cost per shot of a gun.
Post by: Reidus on December 16, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
If I was gonna build a new one right this second it would be a 338 norma improved. Overkill is underrated and 300gr bullets are king when it comes to sending it downtown.
I been eyeing that norma improved case. Good brass available (soon), feeds from a mag with the big long heavies, accurate...what's not to like?
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2018, 01:55:51 PM
Pick a platform you like. 7mm mag. End of subject. :chuckle:
+1
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 16, 2018, 02:42:12 PM
My 300 win is just over 9 lb done up and ready to hunt. I shoot it very well, but after lots of rounds it isn’t the most enjoyable thing ever. Not painful or anything, but lots of blast. Mine has a 28 inch barrel and I’m sending 215 Berger’s at 2970. I’ve killed deer from 400 to 730 yards with it. Those 28 noslers are cool and shoot flat but the brass is spendy. And they take unicorn powder too. :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 16, 2018, 03:12:41 PM
Yorke is spot on.if only n570 was as easy to find as unicorns :chuckle:
My 300 win is just over 9 lb done up and ready to hunt. I shoot it very well, but after lots of rounds it isn’t the most enjoyable thing ever. Not painful or anything, but lots of blast. Mine has a 28 inch barrel and I’m sending 215 Berger’s at 2970. I’ve killed deer from 400 to 730 yards with it. Those 28 noslers are cool and shoot flat but the brass is spendy. And they take unicorn powder too. :chuckle:
But I agree. Get too light and they become difficult to shoot long. That 9-10lb range seems like a great compromise between stability and carryability. Is carryability a word? :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 16, 2018, 03:22:35 PM
Oh ya it’s a word. Plenty shootable at that weight but I would t want lighter. Even still it’s not like shooting a 13 lb 6mm.Yorke is spot on.if only n570 was as easy to find as unicorns :chuckle:
My 300 win is just over 9 lb done up and ready to hunt. I shoot it very well, but after lots of rounds it isn’t the most enjoyable thing ever. Not painful or anything, but lots of blast. Mine has a 28 inch barrel and I’m sending 215 Berger’s at 2970. I’ve killed deer from 400 to 730 yards with it. Those 28 noslers are cool and shoot flat but the brass is spendy. And they take unicorn powder too. :chuckle:
But I agree. Get too light and they become difficult to shoot long. That 9-10lb range seems like a great compromise between stability and carryability. Is carryability a word? :chuckle:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 16, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
Post by: yorketransport on December 16, 2018, 03:28:54 PM
I don't care about caryability :chuckle: it's going to be mostly a sit and glass and if the opportunity arises I have it to shoot farther, my mark v unltralight goes with me on any hiking weighing in at 5 3/4lbs with out optics
In that case, the only option is a 375 or larger. You'll need a minimum bullet weight of 350gr and at least 3100 fps. Your options start at the 375 CheyTac and just get better from there. :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 16, 2018, 03:31:39 PM
And make sure it doesn’t have some “sissy” short pistol barrel? :chuckle:I don't care about caryability :chuckle: it's going to be mostly a sit and glass and if the opportunity arises I have it to shoot farther, my mark v unltralight goes with me on any hiking weighing in at 5 3/4lbs with out optics
In that case, the only option is a 375 or larger. You'll need a minimum bullet weight of 350gr and at least 3100 fps. Your options start at the 375 CheyTac and just get better from there. :chuckle:
30 inches plus.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 16, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
Post by: yorketransport on December 16, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
And make sure it doesn’t have some “sissy” short pistol barrel? :chuckle:
30 inches plus.
You’re all such bad shots that you need to be 10” closer to the target than I do. Long barrels are equivalent to a little league pitchers mound. :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 16, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
I need all the help I can get!And make sure it doesn’t have some “sissy” short pistol barrel? :chuckle:
30 inches plus.
You’re all such bad shots that you need to be 10” closer to the target than I do. Long barrels are equivalent to a little league pitchers mound. :chuckle:
Post by: Wild Bill on December 17, 2018, 07:03:17 AM
And make sure it doesn’t have some “sissy” short pistol barrel? :chuckle:
30 inches plus.
You’re all such bad shots that you need to be 10” closer to the target than I do. Long barrels are equivalent to a little league pitchers mound. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
My wifes 308 has a 16.5 in pipe with a suppressor.... Hardest gun I've ever shot past 500 yards. Fun though. My work gun's are 18, 22, 26 and 28 inches not including the suppressors, and they get noticeably less accurate as I go down in length.
I just shoot them and don't know a whole lot about weights of bullets to rates of twists other than the basics, but id guess shortening the pipe on a specific bullet weight is a good way to learn! lol.
Post by: theleo on December 17, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 17, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Post by: Curly on December 17, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
Here's why:
You will probably get another long range rifle in the near future. You may not think so now, but you will.
So, I'd say go for something in 6.5mm now. Then later when you decide to get another rifle, you can step up at that time to an Edge or something like that. So, there is no reason to go with a 7mm anything. A 6.5 will have you covered for now for deer and elk and then in the future your 6.5 will have you covered for deer and your .338 cal will have you covered for elk.
:twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 17, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
I'd skip the 7mm.cold hard facts right there :chuckle: I give it 1 year after time of first firing before number 2 is on the books
Here's why:
You will probably get another long range rifle in the near future. You may not think so now, but you will.
So, I'd say go for something in 6.5mm now. Then later when you decide to get another rifle, you can step up at that time to an Edge or something like that. So, there is no reason to go with a 7mm anything. A 6.5 will have you covered for now for deer and elk and then in the future your 6.5 will have you covered for deer and your .338 cal will have you covered for elk.
:twocents:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 17, 2018, 06:50:11 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 17, 2018, 07:20:43 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 17, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
Yeah, you're on the path. Once you have piles of parts laying around, you might need to step back a little.
If that happens I'll just have to add on to the man cave to make more room :chuckle:
Post by: b23 on December 17, 2018, 09:13:47 PM
Yeah, you're on the path. Once you have piles of parts laying around, you might need to step back a little.
WHEN that happens I'll just have to add on to the man cave to make more room :chuckle:
There, I fixed it for you. ;)
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 17, 2018, 09:23:48 PM
Can't believe I messed that up, thanks for lookin out :chuckle: :tup:Yeah, you're on the path. Once you have piles of parts laying around, you might need to step back a little.
WHEN that happens I'll just have to add on to the man cave to make more room :chuckle:
There, I fixed it for you. ;)
Post by: NWShooter on December 18, 2018, 12:05:58 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 18, 2018, 09:19:14 AM
Post by: jrebel on December 18, 2018, 09:24:06 AM
Heavies rule in the 300 win mag....just my opinion after reloading and hunting with one last year. It is a bear and moose killing machine. :tup: :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 18, 2018, 09:24:28 AM
You guys sure like your big .30, maybe after I shoot a blacktail with one I won't even have to gut it :chuckle:Only if you shoot at 100 yds. If you shoot at 600, the damage will be less than the typical close in 30-06 shot.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 18, 2018, 09:40:07 AM
You guys sure like your big .30, maybe after I shoot a blacktail with one I won't even have to gut it :chuckle:I wouldn’t class the 300 win as a “big” 30 or a large magnum. Any bullet can and will make a mess with shot placement into bone.
I am also a very big fan of the 215 Berger. To me it is the ultimate 30 cal hunting bullet for targets near to far.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 18, 2018, 11:12:15 AM
Post by: b23 on December 18, 2018, 11:13:28 AM
You guys sure like your big .30, maybe after I shoot a blacktail with one I won't even have to gut it :chuckle:
Nah, they aren't nearly as big as they may sound.
Back when I was in my 20's and for quite a few years after, the only rifle I owned was a 300 Weatherby and I used it for everything from coyotes to elk. I shot a variety of different 180gr bullets in that gun and it didn't do any more damage to deer or elk than anything else, in fact there were times when I think there was less waste with it than some of the others guys I hunted with who were using smaller calibers and lighter bullets.
I tend to think a good size .30 cal is one of the best do all calibers there is and if I had to pick a one do all gun, it'd be a 30 cal something or other. I really like the 30 Nosler, I just wish the brass was more like Lapua quality.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 18, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 18, 2018, 11:38:31 AM
If you're shooting elk long range, you're not really hunting so the weight won't be an issue. :devil:
Post by: yorketransport on December 18, 2018, 06:55:07 PM
338 Lapua out of a 26" barrel on a 12lb platform.
If you're shooting elk long range, you're not really hunting so the weight won't be an issue. :devil:
Fight's on!!!! :boxin:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 18, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on December 19, 2018, 07:48:22 AM
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/65-creedmoor-vs-308-winchester/
Post by: thinkingman on December 19, 2018, 09:57:18 AM
:yike: I'm an archery elk guy so 50 yds is long range for me :chuckle: I just want a rifle for just in case I decide to do the unthinkable and hunt elk with one :chuckle::tup:
Best response you could have made.
I hunt archery elk and love it.
I hate watching these TV elk and deer hunts where they range 728yds across two draws and dial the turrets....Bang.....Flop.
If you want to pimp your product, don't do it on live game like nice bull elk. Shoot the cattle at the meat lot from 700yds and high-five each other.
Post by: huntnphool on December 19, 2018, 10:10:28 AM
I'm partial to the .300 Win Mag myself, but there is certainly something appealing in the 6.5mm calibers like the 6.5-284 and the .26 Nosler. Heck, even the 6.5 Creedmoor will get the job done without much recoil or muzzle blast.
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/65-creedmoor-vs-308-winchester/
.260 Remington
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 19, 2018, 10:44:28 AM
cool you dont like long range but why do you feel you need to troll a thread simply to troll? Are you intentionally looking to be confrontational? I promise you that not a single person on this forum cares what you think about long range. If you dont like it dont watch it, click on it, or read about it. :tup::yike: I'm an archery elk guy so 50 yds is long range for me :chuckle: I just want a rifle for just in case I decide to do the unthinkable and hunt elk with one :chuckle::tup:
Best response you could have made.
I hunt archery elk and love it.
I hate watching these TV elk and deer hunts where they range 728yds across two draws and dial the turrets....Bang.....Flop.
If you want to pimp your product, don't do it on live game like nice bull elk. Shoot the cattle at the meat lot from 700yds and high-five each other.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 19, 2018, 10:50:03 AM
well said Karl.cool you dont like long range but why do you feel you need to troll a thread simply to troll? Are you intentionally looking to be confrontational? I promise you that not a single person on this forum cares what you think about long range. If you dont like it dont watch it, click on it, or read about it. :tup::yike: I'm an archery elk guy so 50 yds is long range for me :chuckle: I just want a rifle for just in case I decide to do the unthinkable and hunt elk with one :chuckle::tup:
Best response you could have made.
I hunt archery elk and love it.
I hate watching these TV elk and deer hunts where they range 728yds across two draws and dial the turrets....Bang.....Flop.
If you want to pimp your product, don't do it on live game like nice bull elk. Shoot the cattle at the meat lot from 700yds and high-five each other.
The op asked about long range rifles and using them to hunt elk sometimes. The thread has been on topic completely.
Post by: jasnt on December 19, 2018, 10:53:45 AM
Rant over
Post by: b23 on December 19, 2018, 10:57:46 AM
:yike: I'm an archery elk guy so 50 yds is long range for me :chuckle: I just want a rifle for just in case I decide to do the unthinkable and hunt elk with one :chuckle::tup:
Best response you could have made.
I hunt archery elk and love it.
I hate watching these TV elk and deer hunts where they range 728yds across two draws and dial the turrets....Bang.....Flop.
If you want to pimp your product, don't do it on live game like nice bull elk. Shoot the cattle at the meat lot from 700yds and high-five each other.
I think you're kinda living in a glass house and throwing rocks.
A strong argument can, easily, be made for or against pretty much, ANY, form of hunting.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 19, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
2 years ago I had a 130" blacktail at 500 yds, I chose to drive around to get closer because I wasn't comfortable shooting that far. As I got within half mile the timber company had a tower right in the middle of the road and it was a dead end road, would have loved to had a long range rifle that day
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 19, 2018, 11:24:57 AM
no love for the 6.5-300 WBY?
I've looked at this one...from what I read it burns up the barrel pretty fast, do you have one?
I'm kinda leaning towards a 6.5-284
Post by: thinkingman on December 19, 2018, 12:53:02 PM
Karl, You're right.cool you dont like long range but why do you feel you need to troll a thread simply to troll? Are you intentionally looking to be confrontational? I promise you that not a single person on this forum cares what you think about long range. If you dont like it dont watch it, click on it, or read about it. :tup::yike: I'm an archery elk guy so 50 yds is long range for me :chuckle: I just want a rifle for just in case I decide to do the unthinkable and hunt elk with one :chuckle::tup:
Best response you could have made.
I hunt archery elk and love it.
I hate watching these TV elk and deer hunts where they range 728yds across two draws and dial the turrets....Bang.....Flop.
If you want to pimp your product, don't do it on live game like nice bull elk. Shoot the cattle at the meat lot from 700yds and high-five each other.
I apologize for any hurt feelings.
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
no love for the 6.5-300 WBY?
I've looked at this one...from what I read it burns up the barrel pretty fast, do you have one?
I'm kinda leaning towards a 6.5-284
No, they had one on sale at north 40 that got my interest, but I think I'd rather have a built gun burning barrels than a high price gun off the rack.
I'm looking at a dedicated LR wolf gun.
Post by: Curly on December 19, 2018, 04:55:26 PM
Post by: Curly on December 19, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 05:42:11 PM
How about a 6.5 sherman (https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/6-5-sherman-q-a.125601/)?
how far away do I have to be before that would be considered "fur friendly" ? :chuckle:
Post by: NWShooter on December 19, 2018, 05:47:49 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 19, 2018, 05:53:13 PM
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 19, 2018, 05:55:38 PM
What makes a dedicated lr wolf rifle so special?
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
You have another reason to buy another rifle :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 19, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
TouchéWhat makes a dedicated lr wolf rifle so special?
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
You have another reason to buy another rifle :chuckle:
But the only reason necessary for a new rifle is “because guns” :tung:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 19, 2018, 05:59:39 PM
What makes a dedicated lr wolf rifle so special?yep. Smaller bullets going too fast isnt always a winning combo. A long pipe on a 6.5x284 will get you a 140 vld to 3100 and I've seen that exact combo do impressive things! Bullblaster has also been witness to coach's 6.5 exploits. Near and far it just works.
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 19, 2018, 06:02:34 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
What makes a dedicated lr wolf rifle so special?
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
There's nothing special about a "wolf rifle", it's just my idea of what I want it for since I archery just about everything else. Most people just use their elk rifles for wolf but I'm looking for something a little more dedicated.
Post by: jjhunter on December 19, 2018, 06:44:41 PM
What makes a dedicated lr wolf rifle so special?
I don’t buy into the extreme high velocity rounds at all. 2900-3100 is where it’s at. If your already turning dials what does a few more clicks mean?
Speed was king before rangefinders; I was fanatical about it. When they outlaw range finders for hunting, we’ll be back to slinging 140’s out of high capacity 7mm’s. :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 06:50:44 PM
Wolves always move, unless you get in their bedroom and catch em napping, but most times they're covering ground.
So I want a holdover rifle, the 6.5-300WBY seems to be a good hold over rifle at decent range
Post by: jjhunter on December 19, 2018, 06:59:20 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2018, 07:02:23 PM
I shot 140 grain ballistic tips out of my 7mm Ultra mag @ 3500 FPS. It was devasting on game!
jellied boiler room :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 19, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
I shot 140 grain ballistic tips out of my 7mm Ultra mag @ 3500 FPS. It was devasting on game!those 140 b tips are nasty! I shot plenty of them out of my 7 rem mag at 3200+. They would straight zap some deer. :tup:
Post by: yorketransport on December 19, 2018, 07:37:40 PM
Speed still is king when hunting wolves, they don't tend to hold still and give you time to be spinning dials.
Wolves always move, unless you get in their bedroom and catch em napping, but most times they're covering ground.
So I want a holdover rifle, the 6.5-300WBY seems to be a good hold over rifle at decent range
You need a 6.5 Badger! Heck, I'd GIVE you a 6.5 Badger barrel if you promised to shoot a wolf with it and give me the skull. I'll see how fast I can get a 123gr A-Max moving out of that sucker and you can try that! :chuckle:
Post by: Jolten on December 19, 2018, 07:42:14 PM
Speed still is king when hunting wolves, they don't tend to hold still and give you time to be spinning dials.
Wolves always move, unless you get in their bedroom and catch em napping, but most times they're covering ground.
So I want a holdover rifle, the 6.5-300WBY seems to be a good hold over rifle at decent range
You need a 6.5 Badger! Heck, I'd GIVE you a 6.5 Badger barrel if you promised to shoot a wolf with it and give me the skull. I'll see how fast I can get a 123gr A-Max moving out of that sucker and you can try that! :chuckle:
Does that offer come with dies and a crash course how to fireform the case?
Post by: huntnphool on December 19, 2018, 07:54:44 PM
I shot 140 grain ballistic tips out of my 7mm Ultra mag @ 3500 FPS. It was devasting on game!
I shoot 140gr. Partitions out of my 7mm RM and have never been let down. :twocents:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on February 01, 2019, 08:35:43 PM