Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 11:56:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 25, 2018, 11:59:54 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on December 25, 2018, 12:01:07 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 25, 2018, 12:02:09 PM
16 points..... that’s cute.. :chuckle: I remember back 8 years ago when I had 16 and thought I was a shoe-in. :chuckle: Just messing w ya!
:yeah:
Post by: Rainier10 on December 25, 2018, 12:12:03 PM
I assume you are talking east side. What method are you looking to use?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 25, 2018, 12:25:22 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 25, 2018, 12:32:15 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 25, 2018, 12:33:49 PM
:chuckle:
:sry:
In all seriousness I would focus on areas you know or are going to learn. Even with the best permits in wa it’s not a gimme by any means to get a good bull.
Post by: 180-GRAIN on December 25, 2018, 12:36:45 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
Post by: boneaddict on December 25, 2018, 02:17:14 PM
You should have been putting in the last 16 years. Few units that are gonna have that kind of potential are impossible draws. You missed out on 16 opportunities to draw them already. 360 is a magnum bull and not very common, even in top tier units. If you go into one of these hunts with that kind of expectation you will be sorely disappointed :twocents: good luck in this coming seasons draws :tup:
I did that one year. Freezer was full of moose meat (ok three freezers) and I had a MT tag, Idaho, and Wa. Go figure, same year. Lots of bulls walked. Saved me some packing.
Good luck with your quest! Washington has some amazing bulls.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 25, 2018, 02:29:05 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 05:33:04 PM
"So you want to kill an elk. Well slow down there bucko, that'll be about 30 years. Start a mortgage, then check in with us later."
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
Post by: Igottanewknee on December 25, 2018, 07:23:58 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 07:31:36 PM
Post by: Hot Lunch on December 25, 2018, 07:38:26 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 07:51:28 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 25, 2018, 07:57:48 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 25, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
Post by: JWEBB on December 25, 2018, 08:17:22 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 08:30:33 PM
Post by: Mallardmasher on December 25, 2018, 08:39:50 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 08:43:20 PM
I have 21 and am still waiting, last year I had a multi season elk and put in archery peaches, ML Natchees and rifle peaches with no luck
Just so I understand: Does that mean you've been putting in for 21 years?
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 08:47:12 PM
Post by: deerlick on December 25, 2018, 08:49:08 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 08:52:28 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 09:05:05 PM
21 quality deer and elk for me. Started when I was 12... still waiting.
So does that mean 21 years of trying?
Slif I started in 2019 I'd be 56 by the time I reached 21 points.
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 09:10:41 PM
Post by: Ace on December 25, 2018, 09:16:56 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
Starting at the bottom means just that. It’s all up hill so there’s no bad things to hold you back. If you want it you can get it. But you have to WANT it to get it
Oh I want it. This is my number one pursuit in life. Family first, then hunting. I want it bad and I'll do whatever it takes.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 25, 2018, 10:44:11 PM
Post by: deerlick on December 25, 2018, 10:48:23 PM
21 quality deer and elk for me. Started when I was 12... still waiting.
So does that mean 21 years of trying?
Slif I started in 2019 I'd be 56 by the time I reached 21 points.
Yes. Good luck
Post by: ljsommer on December 25, 2018, 10:58:49 PM
Just go hunt otc or put in for decent tags. You’ll get old fast waiting for the BEST tag, trust me.
OTC is terrible. Horrible experience competing with 1,000,000 other orange vests for 5 elk.
Post by: Jpmiller on December 26, 2018, 06:54:08 AM
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 06:59:28 AM
Oddly enough I've only ever been drawn when I entered.
Hah! Thanks for the morning laugh. I'll be entering from now on, that's for sure. I just got into this sport late so it's a bit daunting to hear guys talking about 21 years of entries with no draws. I was talking to my family about this yesterday: I think my main issue is I've been focused on success (for any species) in the 1-5 year timeframe, and my experience is showing me that's foolish. I am going to start focusing on success in the 5-30 year timeframe, as that's likely more realistic for landing a deer or elk. I'll check in once I turn 65 if I haven't yet killed anything.
Post by: cougforester on December 26, 2018, 07:06:49 AM
Just go hunt otc or put in for decent tags. You’ll get old fast waiting for the BEST tag, trust me.
OTC is terrible. Horrible experience competing with 1,000,000 other orange vests for 5 elk.
Don't have to hunt modern for elk. I've seen that you've been learning bow hunting from other posts on the site. September with a bow is pretty fun. A two mile hike in this last year every morning got me away from 99% of other people.
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 07:10:14 AM
Just go hunt otc or put in for decent tags. You’ll get old fast waiting for the BEST tag, trust me.
OTC is terrible. Horrible experience competing with 1,000,000 other orange vests for 5 elk.
Don't have to hunt modern for elk. I've seen that you've been learning bow hunting from other posts on the site. September with a bow is pretty fun. A two mile hike in this last year every morning got me away from 99% of other people.
Correct, trying to move to bow, though the feedback I've received from this forum is that I am an idiot for attempting bow for my first kill on something. I am questioning if it was wise to attempt archery this year. Everyone I talk to is saying:
1. Don't use a bow, go modern
2. Don't hunt blacktails, hunt muleys
3. Don't hunt WA, get out of state
Post by: Jpmiller on December 26, 2018, 07:28:13 AM
Just go hunt otc or put in for decent tags. You’ll get old fast waiting for the BEST tag, trust me.
OTC is terrible. Horrible experience competing with 1,000,000 other orange vests for 5 elk.
Don't have to hunt modern for elk. I've seen that you've been learning bow hunting from other posts on the site. September with a bow is pretty fun. A two mile hike in this last year every morning got me away from 99% of other people.
Correct, trying to move to bow, though the feedback I've received from this forum is that I am an idiot for attempting bow for my first kill on something. I am questioning if it was wise to attempt archery this year. Everyone I talk to is saying:
1. Don't use a bow, go modern
2. Don't hunt blacktails, hunt muleys
3. Don't hunt WA, get out of state
Just don't hunt during my season or anywhere near my area. I hunt when and where the animals arent so don't follow my lead!
Hunt in the manner that affords you the most time in the woods. There's no better way to improve your hunting skills like archery and it allows you weeks if not months more of hunting than any other mode.
Plus you can reuse arrows so it's cheaper to practice shooting.
Post by: cougforester on December 26, 2018, 07:37:50 AM
Just go hunt otc or put in for decent tags. You’ll get old fast waiting for the BEST tag, trust me.
OTC is terrible. Horrible experience competing with 1,000,000 other orange vests for 5 elk.
Don't have to hunt modern for elk. I've seen that you've been learning bow hunting from other posts on the site. September with a bow is pretty fun. A two mile hike in this last year every morning got me away from 99% of other people.
Correct, trying to move to bow, though the feedback I've received from this forum is that I am an idiot for attempting bow for my first kill on something. I am questioning if it was wise to attempt archery this year. Everyone I talk to is saying:
1. Don't use a bow, go modern
2. Don't hunt blacktails, hunt muleys
3. Don't hunt WA, get out of state
Meh. Do what you feel gives you the most enjoyment. A lot of lessons you learn the first few years I feel are unconscious anyways. Being able to feel a stick under you or boots that's about to pop and knowing to not put weight on it. Getting a sense for a "bucky" area that you know is good but just can't put your finger on it. When to move fast and cover ground and when to slow down. PM me if you want, I started out blacktail hunting too and was in your same boat. Don't want to thread jack too bad :chuckle:
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 07:39:47 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 26, 2018, 07:49:53 AM
Post by: Igottanewknee on December 26, 2018, 01:33:33 PM
So, for me to have 21 points, I'll be 75.......s.o.b. :bash:21 quality deer and elk for me. Started when I was 12... still waiting.
So does that mean 21 years of trying?
Slif I started in 2019 I'd be 56 by the time I reached 21 points.
Yes. Good luck
Post by: Ace on December 26, 2018, 01:53:02 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on December 26, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 26, 2018, 05:56:37 PM
I have tons of points. I’ve started putting in with friends so they can share in the misery...HA!!!!!!! Yeah right!!!! You were supposed to share your bull points with my and you greedily used them all by yourself! So selfish :chuckle:
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 05:56:48 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 26, 2018, 06:01:19 PM
It's a little weird to me that we supposedly have a crisis of dwindling hunter numbers and yet there's so many of them with so many points that they still may never draw a quality hunt...I mean what if we had increasing hunter numbers? Would the game populations even sustain that? Would we just not have anymore OTC tags at all?50,000+ elk hunters. Maybe 20 permits that have any chance of hunting for a 360 bull.
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 06:03:01 PM
It's a little weird to me that we supposedly have a crisis of dwindling hunter numbers and yet there's so many of them with so many points that they still may never draw a quality hunt...I mean what if we had increasing hunter numbers? Would the game populations even sustain that? Would we just not have anymore OTC tags at all?50,000+ elk hunters. Maybe 20 permits that have any chance of hunting for a 360 bull.
I guess what I am asking is, does WDFW actually even want hunter numbers to go up, or are we already at maximum saturation for hunters compared to the game populations of WA? Half of this forum (named Hunting Washington) seems to think the best bet is to...*not* hunt Washington and to instead go out of state.
Post by: Bob33 on December 26, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
Yes I believe they want more hunters. There are far more hunting opportunities than 360 bulls. There are plenty of other species for one. Hunting public land, modern season big game is challenging. That said I know hunters who kill bulls every 3 to 4 years on public land. I know other hunters who work hard to get access to private land, and do much better than average.It's a little weird to me that we supposedly have a crisis of dwindling hunter numbers and yet there's so many of them with so many points that they still may never draw a quality hunt...I mean what if we had increasing hunter numbers? Would the game populations even sustain that? Would we just not have anymore OTC tags at all?50,000+ elk hunters. Maybe 20 permits that have any chance of hunting for a 360 bull.
I guess what I am asking is, does WDFW actually even want hunter numbers to go up, or are we already at maximum saturation for hunters compared to the game populations of WA? Half of this forum (named Hunting Washington) seems to think the best bet is to...*not* hunt Washington and to instead go out of state.
I would be very surprised if half of Hunt Wa members don't hunt in Washington.
Post by: Ace on December 26, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
You know how we have programs that spawn and release farmed fish into the wild? We should do that with game animals. Big elk farms and sheep farms and we can release like, 100 of each into herds each year. I'll call Bezos and get him to invest. =)
200” Muleys, and 400” bulls for everyone.🤔
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 06:56:21 PM
You know how we have programs that spawn and release farmed fish into the wild? We should do that with game animals. Big elk farms and sheep farms and we can release like, 100 of each into herds each year. I'll call Bezos and get him to invest. =)
200” Muleys, and 400” bulls for everyone.🤔
Hah, well, maybe more like "a deer" and "an elk" for everyone that works for it. Seems decent. This is the only activity in life I've ever approached that the more time and money and sweat and blood you sink into it, the further you get from success. There's nothing else like this. Hell, even golf you get to hit the damn ball.
Post by: Ace on December 26, 2018, 06:58:56 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on December 26, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
Yes I believe they want more hunters. There are far more hunting opportunities than 360 bulls. There are plenty of other species for one. Hunting public land, modern season big game is challenging. That said I know hunters who kill bulls every 3 to 4 years on public land. I know other hunters who work hard to get access to private land, and do much better than average.It's a little weird to me that we supposedly have a crisis of dwindling hunter numbers and yet there's so many of them with so many points that they still may never draw a quality hunt...I mean what if we had increasing hunter numbers? Would the game populations even sustain that? Would we just not have anymore OTC tags at all?50,000+ elk hunters. Maybe 20 permits that have any chance of hunting for a 360 bull.
I guess what I am asking is, does WDFW actually even want hunter numbers to go up, or are we already at maximum saturation for hunters compared to the game populations of WA? Half of this forum (named Hunting Washington) seems to think the best bet is to...*not* hunt Washington and to instead go out of state.
I would be very surprised if half of Hunt Wa members don't hunt in Washington.
I wouldn't be surprised if a segment of the hunt wa populace paint a very bleak picture of hunting in this state in hopes of discouraging others to hunt out of state or give up so as to improve their odds. I'd bet these same guys would shoot an elk and monster deer every year if not for the other hunters, or the bears, or wolves, or the Indians, or the greenies, or the chem trails, or.....
Post by: ljsommer on December 26, 2018, 07:20:22 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on December 28, 2018, 09:15:11 PM
Yeah...because you be all like “archery hunting is the way to go dude” dang ol stick flickers anyways!!I have tons of points. I’ve started putting in with friends so they can share in the misery...HA!!!!!!! Yeah right!!!! You were supposed to share your bull points with my and you greedily used them all by yourself! So selfish :chuckle: