Post by: KFhunter on January 07, 2019, 11:34:44 AM
Want to see what I'm talking about? Go snowshoe in some fresh logging areas and check it out. Its a slaughter fest.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 07, 2019, 11:43:56 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 07, 2019, 11:44:42 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 07, 2019, 11:52:04 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 07, 2019, 05:59:35 PM
Post by: TommyH on January 07, 2019, 06:47:40 PM
We used to joke about the 372xp being the best deer call ever made. :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on January 07, 2019, 07:00:30 PM
These wolves were checking out some firewood cutting activity.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1200.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb332%2FKF_hunter%2FWolves%2F20121126_124033.jpg&hash=274700f3e77bb6a71b2ea62affa60d13)
but ya, the deer/elk do love those tops of trees being on the ground
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 08, 2019, 08:40:06 AM
I got a 372xp, It calls wolves.
These wolves were checking out some firewood cutting activity.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1200.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb332%2FKF_hunter%2FWolves%2F20121126_124033.jpg&hash=274700f3e77bb6a71b2ea62affa60d13)
but ya, the deer/elk do love those tops of trees being on the ground
Anywhere close to my neighborhood? Doesn't look like much snow. :dunno: I assume not CNF if cutting firewood. :chuckle:
Post by: The Marquis on January 08, 2019, 12:13:21 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 08, 2019, 12:25:03 PM
couple days ago I took 4-5 different roads, roughly 20+ miles of woods by snowmobile, every road had wolf tracks + scat.
Right now the snow is rotten and frozen rock hard, very loud crunch crunch and hard to see tracks, we're suppose to get snow tonight and I plan to go out in the following days.
Perhaps I'll get some fresh pictures, the one posted above is from ~5 years ago and was taken right after WDFW told the world they killed the wedge wolf pack following a big protracted battle by the local ranchers, clearly they did not kill the wedge wolf pack as this pic was taken just a few miles up from the Diamond M Ranch in the Wedge (I have no affiliation with them)
Now we've learned that when WDFW say's they "killed the pack of wolves" that means they killed at least one of the breeding alphas, thereby removing the proper definition of "wolf pack" which is a breeding alpha pair, it doesn't mean they've killed every single wolf in a pack. It's all about the definitions. Of course we all know there'll be a new pair of alpha's the very next breeding season, but until then it's not a "pack" any longer.
Post by: boneaddict on January 09, 2019, 07:17:08 AM
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Now we've learned that when WDFW say's they "killed the pack of wolves" that means they killed at least one of the breeding alphas, thereby removing the proper definition of "wolf pack" which is a breeding alpha pair, it doesn't mean they've killed every single wolf in a pack. It's all about the definitions.
💥💥💥💥💥💥 :yike: Boom!!!
Post by: jasnt on January 09, 2019, 07:42:44 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 09, 2019, 09:51:13 AM
with this snow coming I'd like to cut a bunch of trail, makes it easier to come back the next day and see what's crossed my tracks.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 09, 2019, 10:04:11 AM
Post by: timberfaller on January 09, 2019, 11:13:34 AM
The "down side" is the introduction of a exterminated predator. Spent many a day hunting logged off areas and making them. Had to chase deer out of falling strips after taking lunch breaks, they loved the green/black moss on the trees laying on the ground, easy picken's!!
Take out the apex predator and things will go back to some form of normalcy. Oh ya, wolves don't run to well in thick timber, but in the open, watch out!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 09, 2019, 11:50:32 AM
Post by: jasnt on January 09, 2019, 12:19:41 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 09, 2019, 04:31:08 PM
Post by: Pinetar on January 09, 2019, 05:01:27 PM
I believe there if far more benefits to logging and clear cuts than there is disadvantages.
:yeah: What he said
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 10, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Well there is a downside to logging, it concentrates the game especially during the winter, making it much easier for wolves.
In my experience clearcuts and other big openings are not the prime feeding areas in mid winter with large amounts of snow. Deer will hang in the timber where the snow is shallower because of the canopy of the forest. Easier to get around and easier to find food. Out in the open the snow stacks up and covers food sources. Also more thermal protection under the canopy than out in the open.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 10, 2019, 04:37:22 PM
Well there is a downside to logging, it concentrates the game especially during the winter, making it much easier for wolves.The more thinning the better. The wolves are the wdfw fault not logging
Want to see what I'm talking about? Go snowshoe in some fresh logging areas and check it out. Its a slaughter fest.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 10, 2019, 05:51:05 PM