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I tried a gun a few times- just feel like I have way more control with a shovel. Of course it has to be the right shovel. We have 3 old ones with the perfect shape to the blade for lifting sand out; much better than the straight ones you typically see for sale.
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Post by: JKEEN33 on January 10, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
The vented ones do work a little better. Clamhawks are generally regarded as the best but they are about $125 There used to be a guy that parked by the Green Lantern north of Ocean shores that sold a good aluminum gun. Still pushing a $100. I bought 1 and like it. The tube is oval instead of round. The anodized aluminum ones you can get for about $59 are a good light gun. I bought one for my wife and like it almost better than my custom one. But it isn't vented. Its just lighter to carry and works well. Don't care for the pvc ones. Harder to push in, which sucks when the sand is packed hard. 5" tubes are nice. Little more room for error.
I dug with a shovel for 40+ years. Tried several guns and didn’t like them. Friend bought one of the aluminum guns from the guy at the green lantern. I tried it and went back and bought myself one. If you know how to judge clam sizes by the show, you can still avoid getting small clams most of the time. I made a stick for thumping out of an old broom handle and tie it to my hip with a length of rope so I can drop it without losing it. Still have the 40 year old shovel, but don’t use it any more. He is still selling these, but you need to show up early. He told me he usually sells out. He also says if you have any problems with it he will swap it out for a new one barring any obvious abuse.
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I'm not sure which state you live in but no hound hunting,no foothold trap or body gripping traps already are rules in this state. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/twocents.gif)
Let managers manage ,is gonna become a slippery slope in years to come .when OTC tags are gone and hunting in this state becomes very limited.
Hunters that live in a gmu can see a lot more of what's happening to our wildlife than a game commission that never leaves the office.When people lie on there hunting reports about harvest,how many days hunting etc. It hurts the rules setting process.Biologists lie about game counts can hurt rule setting.There is a lot factors that go into rule setting .All I'm saying is that hunters live in that area should be listened too a lot more.It pretty obvious that some of the systems we have in place now are not working with less game every year and hunters that are spending there money in other states.Your suggestion of let managers manage Sitka is not working plain and simple,what looks good on paper doesn't always look good out in the woods.
I do leave my comments every year when rule changes come up.It really does no good .Regs are alway set with how many tags can we sell ,without conservation in mind.
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That's what I'm getting at Hunter 399. Management shouldn't be decided on people's feelings. Neither voters or hunters should be deciding what season there should be or what legal hunting methods should be used. Management should be based on what is best for the herds and the habitat and should be done with the best science available. Just because some Yuppie in Seattle thinks hounds shouldn't be allowed to hunt predators or just because some hunters think they don't get enough opportunity, is no reason to let either of them decide what hunting regulations should be. Leave it to the professionals. (I'm talking the biologists) They know a lot more than they ever get credit for. ]]>
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Post by: Smossy on January 10, 2019, 11:18:36 PM
Thank God I dont write this *censored* anymore. So tireed of looking through source codes and ip's 😎😎 Never again. Ill pretend I dont know how to turn the computer on :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on January 11, 2019, 05:51:05 AM
The guns are very quick, we share 1 gun with our family of four and bang out limits before anyone gets bored.
Post by: Smossy on January 11, 2019, 06:39:07 AM
The Clamhawk is awesome but pricey. We have one of the more inexpensive aluminum vented but haven't tried it out. If you try a pvc and then an aluminum or steel tube, you will wonder how the pvc ones even sell.Na, Ive had steel, aluminum, pvc. I prefer PVC over everything. I dont see whats to love about an aluminum tube. Its heavier, Clunkier, Needs to be rinsed (not really, but should) Pfft my PVC I can make repairs on the spot with a plastic welder, Keep the edges sharp so they glide through sand like its not there..
The guns are very quick, we share 1 gun with our family of four and bang out limits before anyone gets bored.
So lighter, easier to fix, easier to pull out, inexpensive.. Aluminim still isnt making sense to me.
Maybe if you and your friend want to have a light saber fight after you dig maybe??
But then again guess anyone could argue, Still seeing people use shovels. You guys are funny. My back just puts on sunglasses and sits back while yall get dirty dig 3 foot holes. lol
Post by: Bullkllr on January 11, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 11, 2019, 07:19:58 PM
The guns are very quick, we share 1 gun with our family of four and bang out limits before anyone gets bored.But then again guess anyone could argue, Still seeing people use shovels. You guys are funny. My back just puts on sunglasses and sits back while yall get dirty dig 3 foot holes. lol
Guns are OK for getting 15 clams a whack. But you will never see a commercial digger using a gun. Shovels only, as it's faster, easier, easier on your back, and way easier to go fast and not damage the clams. There is a reason the guys who dig for volume use shovels.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 11, 2019, 07:36:59 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 11, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
5 PVC
2 Aluminum
2 Stainless
1 steel
Also a couple of shovels
Stainless guns by far are the best material, followed by aluminum, then PVC, and lastly steel. I rate this by the force required to push it in the sand, other metrics are all design dependent and would require a much more thorough review.
The PVC take significantly more force to use and the ones I have had become brittle over time and break easily. The stainless ones are easy to push in and can be sunk to the handle with little effort. The aluminum are a bit more difficult than the SS but easier than PVC. The regular steel are good initially, but once they rust a little inside the tube they are miserable to use.
Stainless clam hawks with the vent are the best IMO, except the vent is in the wrong location.
Shovels - I like them every now and then for something different. Very effective if you know how to use them. You don’t see commercial diggers with guns if that tells you anything.
Post by: 3uPh0riK on February 19, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
Was also not sure how close to the surf to actually look for them, but regardless, found nothing
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 19, 2019, 09:19:39 PM
I like to walk the edge of an outgoing tide, watch the waves smooth the sand.
Was also not sure how close to the surf to actually look for them, but regardless, found nothing
3 hours before low tide, keep walking the edge until you find one, limited and off the beach in next half hour.
Post by: Stein on February 19, 2019, 10:13:22 PM
Went Clamming the other day (for the first time) at Twin Harbors and we were pretty much alone on the beach. I kinda expected to see a bunch of other clammers i could learn from. Didnt find a single clam. Watched the youtube videos that showed the "tells", but didnt see any of that.
Was also not sure how close to the surf to actually look for them, but regardless, found nothing
If you were alone, you were doing it wrong. Drive back into town and find the parade to the beach. Follow them and pretty much mingle into the mob and you will find clams.
This literally is the one time where you just go where everyone else is. It couldn't be simpler once you get that part.
I did the same thing, was too far north and digging around in gravely beach and didn't find anything. It is incredible how many clams there are and how dense it is, you can go right into the middle of 10,000 people and get your 15.
Closer to the water is better, but you can get them up. You will see where others have dug, focus on areas like that. Once you get good, you can get your 15 in the space of a living room.
Post by: crazywednesday on February 19, 2019, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on February 20, 2019, 05:51:01 AM
Post by: The Marquis on February 20, 2019, 12:25:26 PM
Post by: WSU on February 20, 2019, 12:42:20 PM
I find that an hour or so before low tide is good, and start digging down where the waves stop washing up the beach. As HntnFsh said, sometimes you can get plenty further up and sometimes you need to be in the surf. But 95% of the time, I get easy limits wearing normal rubber boots and staying completely out of the water.
Post by: 3uPh0riK on February 20, 2019, 01:50:04 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 20, 2019, 08:51:56 PM
I like getting in the edge of the surf and “sandpipering”, chasing the surf up and down. I would likely do just as well in one spot, but I like moving! I use waders during digging and don’t worry about the surf, it is nice!
Post by: Bullkllr on February 21, 2019, 07:22:08 AM
Went Clamming the other day (for the first time) at Twin Harbors and we were pretty much alone on the beach. I kinda expected to see a bunch of other clammers i could learn from. Didnt find a single clam. Watched the youtube videos that showed the "tells", but didnt see any of that.
Was also not sure how close to the surf to actually look for them, but regardless, found nothing
I would go a step farther and say if you were at Twin Harbors and were pretty much alone you were either there on a day it was not open or you were there on the wrong tide.
If it were open, and you were there anywhere around low tide, there would be vehicles and clammers all over the place from the south jetty to Tokeland.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on February 21, 2019, 07:28:00 AM
agreed..i've never been out clamming and been alone.Went Clamming the other day (for the first time) at Twin Harbors and we were pretty much alone on the beach. I kinda expected to see a bunch of other clammers i could learn from. Didnt find a single clam. Watched the youtube videos that showed the "tells", but didnt see any of that.
Was also not sure how close to the surf to actually look for them, but regardless, found nothing
I would go a step farther and say if you were at Twin Harbors and were pretty much alone you were either there on a day it was not open or you were there on the wrong tide.
If it were open, and you were there anywhere around low tide, there would be vehicles and clammers all over the place from the south jetty to Tokeland.
what day were you out and what time vs the tide were you there? the beaches will be empty until that hour or 2 up to low tide, then everyone shows up.
Post by: The Marquis on February 21, 2019, 09:20:44 AM
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on February 28, 2019, 02:43:31 PM
If clams are there, and are going to show, then 1.5 hrs should be plenty. As far as "moving to a better spot", I've developed a protocol that seems to work. If you are within the 1.5 hr window, and you don't get any clams within a half-hour, move 1/2 mile down the beach. This should allow two moves before the tide begins to come back in. Remember, there is an approximately 20-minute slack at low.
Post by: HntnFsh on February 28, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
Post by: doyourtime89 on March 04, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 04, 2019, 08:46:16 PM
Did anyone get out to or know anyone that went to Kalaloch this past dig when they opened it up and if so, how was it? How big were they?
:yike: :bash: :chuckle: :o :puke: :puke: :tdown: :violent1: Kalaloch clamming :pee:
Does that sum it up? I only went one day and strictly basing it on clams it was one of the worst days ever. I think I saw the biggest haul at 3 and heard of a possible 5. Size was 3-4” tops. Day was great otherwise :tup:
Post by: The Marquis on March 06, 2019, 12:03:21 PM
Did anyone get out to or know anyone that went to Kalaloch this past dig when they opened it up and if so, how was it? How big were they?
:yike: :bash: :chuckle: :o :puke: :puke: :tdown: :violent1: Kalaloch clamming :pee:
Does that sum it up? I only went one day and strictly basing it on clams it was one of the worst days ever. I think I saw the biggest haul at 3 and heard of a possible 5. Size was 3-4” tops. Day was great otherwise :tup:
Yikes! Is that typical of that beach? It's too far of a drive to ever be on my radar, but I don't often see it open. Seems like it'd be a good beach for Razor's, but 3-5? Yikes.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 10, 2019, 01:28:16 PM
It used to be pretty good. If you got there right about the tide shift, then you could get your limits pretty quick--20 minutes or so for big clams. I went right before it was closed down and the beach was getting absolutely hammered. There were lots of brush pickers being set out and they were digging trenches pretty much the length of the beach. Most were using regular spade shovels and digging, then sorting the sand for their clams. The season after that the park claimed something caused a big crash, but didn't elaborate. A couple years later the park said they had unusually high numbers of clams, but they were all tiny (less than an inch). Then was a test fishery follwed by closure because too few of decent size.Did anyone get out to or know anyone that went to Kalaloch this past dig when they opened it up and if so, how was it? How big were they?
:yike: :bash: :chuckle: :o :puke: :puke: :tdown: :violent1: Kalaloch clamming :pee:
Does that sum it up? I only went one day and strictly basing it on clams it was one of the worst days ever. I think I saw the biggest haul at 3 and heard of a possible 5. Size was 3-4” tops. Day was great otherwise :tup:
Yikes! Is that typical of that beach? It's too far of a drive to ever be on my radar, but I don't often see it open. Seems like it'd be a good beach for Razor's, but 3-5? Yikes.
Post by: opdinkslayer on March 10, 2019, 03:40:44 PM
There was way too much surf even tho there were really good minus tides which are a must at kalaloch. We are shovel guys & pounded hard to find shows in which many disappeared quick or were questionable at all. This is why I believe we were a rare bird leaving with limits. 90% of people were packing guns & unless you had something to pound with, good luck. I really see no reason to open kalaloch in its current state. It’s nice to drive 35 miles & dig but I think I’ll make the trek to Moclips if I’m hungry for razors going forward. :twocents:
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 10, 2019, 09:53:26 PM
Here’s a first hand report on the kalaloch dig in mid February. Me & my son both dug Saturday & Sunday getting our limits both days & he added a 3rd limit on Monday but I couldn’t make it. I never saw anybody else limit & most had 0-8 clams. Clams were mostly 3 3/4” to 4 1/4”. I never dug a single clam that was close to an avg clam on the southern beaches on a good day.
There was way too much surf even tho there were really good minus tides which are a must at kalaloch. We are shovel guys & pounded hard to find shows in which many disappeared quick or were questionable at all. This is why I believe we were a rare bird leaving with limits. 90% of people were packing guns & unless you had something to pound with, good luck. I really see no reason to open kalaloch in its current state. It’s nice to drive 35 miles & dig but I think I’ll make the trek to Moclips if I’m hungry for razors going forward. :twocents:
I will agree! You did much better than anybody else I saw digging. We started a solid 2 hours before the low at the north campground. After searching n watching for 30 minutes I decided to just scout and headed to the far north end of the beach. I ran into the game cops and talked with them for a few minutes, they had checked a guy with 5 on the north end of the beach I said that was the max they saw (Saturday). If I had hunted hard without the kids I could have likely limited, but size was small and it was too hard to make it worthwhile when I still have plenty in the freezer.