Post by: wheels on January 13, 2019, 12:38:24 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on January 13, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
I didn’t want to spend a fortune either
I compared them with similarly priced Nikon and Leupold at Sportsmens warehouse they were absolutely clear and sharp, nice sized, great quality and lifetime warranty for $150
Post by: yorketransport on January 16, 2019, 02:09:48 PM
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Post by: wheels on January 18, 2019, 02:13:04 AM
Post by: Jellymon on January 18, 2019, 03:50:28 AM
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 18, 2019, 04:56:34 AM
Post by: yorketransport on January 18, 2019, 06:14:41 AM
I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
Post by: mburrows on January 18, 2019, 07:17:45 AM
Post by: The scout on January 18, 2019, 07:45:29 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2019, 08:26:39 AM
:yeah: good amount of folks running alpha glass that realistically dont need them or use them to their full potential. If you got the extra cash then go for it but I glassed up a lot of stuff with a pair of first gen vortex vipers. Only vortex item I've ever owned that didnt fall apart :chuckle:I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 18, 2019, 09:13:29 AM
I had a pair of burris binos from at least 10 years ago that I just had kicking around my truck. They ended up having the eye piece come off, so I sent them in and they sent me back a new pair. They have some great glass in them for the money. Way better than vortex in that price range. Leupold BX-4 are decent also.You had a drastically different warranty experience with them than I did. Burris warranty was garbage for me. My Binos broke and I sent them back for repair since they had the warranty. Burris responded to me that they no longer made Binos but would give me 10% off on a set of Steiner Binos. GARBAGE!!!
I will never own or buy another Burris or Steiner product after that.
Oh and swaro, for sure swaro!
Post by: HntnFsh on January 18, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
I agree!
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2019, 09:41:51 AM
100% agree don't get caught up in you have to have alpha glass very few people will notice the quality difference. For example I've had swaro 10x50 slc/ Nikon 10x50 monarchs both were great glass gave the nikons to a friend and out elk hunting was looking thru both to compare and my old man eyes really couldn't see the difference. My vortex fury binos I had same thing your price range is very doable finding good glass that will last:yeah: good amount of folks running alpha glass that realistically dont need them or use them to their full potential. If you got the extra cash then go for it but I glassed up a lot of stuff with a pair of first gen vortex vipers. Only vortex item I've ever owned that didnt fall apart :chuckle:I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2019, 09:44:37 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2019, 09:47:06 AM
https://www.opticsplanet.com/zeiss-terra-ed-10-x-42-binocular.html
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 18, 2019, 09:57:39 AM
Hard to tell the difference on a lot of alpha stuff and some mid range stuff..........then you put them on a tripod and your mind gets blown:yeah:
I’ll add that looking through Binos and switching after a few seconds or minutes doesn’t really give a great idea as to how they work.
Tripod and long sessions of staring through is where the alpha glass shines.
My vortex did all they needed to for lots of years but as cash allowed u upgraded to swaro and have zero regrets.
Post by: boneaddict on January 18, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
Buy once cry once......Swaro
Yep! It hurts, but worth it.
Post by: James on January 18, 2019, 11:25:05 AM
Look how cheap Nikon Monarch 5's and 7's with their ED glass are these days. There is some great glass in that $300-700 range.
Post by: JeffRaines on January 18, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
:yeah: good amount of folks running alpha glass that realistically dont need them or use them to their full potential. If you got the extra cash then go for it but I glassed up a lot of stuff with a pair of first gen vortex vipers. Only vortex item I've ever owned that didnt fall apart :chuckle:I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
Agreed
Not to say alphas aren’t good for general “run and gun” style glassing, but whenever you put them on a tripod and start to glass for hours is when you’ll really feel like they’re worth it.
As I’ve said before - looking through vipers was like looking through a pair of binoculars, razors/conquests were like looking through “good” binoculars, and Swarovski was like actually being there.
Post by: wheels on January 18, 2019, 12:49:44 PM
Post by: Eric M on January 18, 2019, 12:53:11 PM
realistically 300-500In that price range you could pick up a pair of the Leupold pro guide HD bx-3 Mojave. Nice glass for the money
Post by: Bob33 on January 18, 2019, 01:14:43 PM
Over time I progressed through the ranks of binoculars, and eventually ended up with alpha glass. I could qualify as a genuine “buy once, cry once” candidate but I never did cry. It’s tough to justify spending several thousand dollars on a pair of binoculars when there are other pressing budget demands. Sure, I ended up with a drawer full of used binoculars but so what. I upgraded equipment as my budget allowed.
Yes, if you spend hours behind optics the slight differences between the various qualities of glass become more and more evident. I suspect I’ve probably seen some animals with better glass than I would have without and it does improve my hunting experience. However, if I had to hunt with binos in the $300 to $500 range I really doubt I’d do much better in the vast majority of hunting situations.
Even though I have Swarovski binos now, I occasionally take out a pair of $100 Yosemite 6x30s for fun and am always impressed with them.
And some day I'll have a garage sale on my drawer of binoculars that I almost cried over...
ANY binocular is better than NO binocular. :twocents:
Post by: bearpaw on January 18, 2019, 01:59:40 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
Pre owned set of EL's with a warranty will be the best investment you ever made in hunting gear, likely the last time you ever purchase bino's. :twocents:
Post by: JeffRaines on January 18, 2019, 06:58:30 PM
Like Dale said, eye fatigue is the main reason I originally stepped up and bought EL's. I can glass all day long, sun up to sun down and not get eye fatigue, headaches, dizziness etc.
Pre owned set of EL's with a warranty will be the best investment you ever made in hunting gear, likely the last time you ever purchase bino's. :twocents:
I ended up with SLCs but that was another selling point. Buying Vipers or some cheaper bino will eventually end up in me seeing nicer ones and eventually justifying the purchase.
Binoculars don't change all that often in regards to glass quality, whats top quality now may not be top quality in 20 years, but it won't be that far off either.
Unless these disappear, I don't see myself ever buying another pair.
Post by: jmscon on January 18, 2019, 07:00:08 PM
https://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-binoculars.html
Post by: mountainman on January 18, 2019, 07:43:44 PM
I can buy one pair of 10x42 swarovski EL's for $2689
Or......
Vortex Viper 10x42HD-$500
Tikka T3x 30-06-$680
Leupold VX3i 3.5-10x40-$400
Sig kilo 2000-$500
Glock 20 10mm-$550
=$2630
I know what id rather go home with. :chuckle: :tung:
:chuckle:
I’m all for buying quality optics, but the average hunter won’t benefit from buying a pair of Swaro binos. I have a Swaro spotter because it’s a necessary tool for my LR shooting; a pair of high dollar binos wouldn’t make any difference in my hunting though.
True, for the average hunter, typically spot and stalk hunting, you don't need higher quality optics. But for open country glassing, where one might spend 8, 10, 12 hours a day looking thru glass, quality becomes a HUGE factor! Take a pair of mid- quality binos, look thru them for a couple hours. Then put your eyes thru a quality set, say the above mentioned Swaro's and feel your eyes relax. Switch that around, and your eyes will undoubtedly strain instantly. No fun to get an optically induced migraine at 8000 feet😉. Not to mentioned the improved clarity when it comes to counting points when that big bucks head is in the brush...quality costs, but by my bank, worth every penny not to go cheap👍
Post by: Oh Mah on January 18, 2019, 08:34:27 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 19, 2019, 12:13:31 AM
Post by: Crunchy on January 19, 2019, 12:24:59 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 19, 2019, 07:05:48 AM
Zeiss is really good glass as well. not sure what their mid range binos cost. I went Swaro.I posted them earlier in this thread and would be my personal choice under $500
https://www.opticsplanet.com/zeiss-terra-ed-10-x-42-binocular.html
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on January 19, 2019, 08:07:35 AM
Good glass, quality optics and a reasonable price.
I see that Planet Optics has them for about $400.
That's a lot less than I paid.
As a surveyor, I have looked through glass for weeks on end for a living.
Good optics are a joy to use, poor quality is a pain in the eye and a#$.
Post by: LabChamp on January 19, 2019, 09:03:40 AM
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Post by: Westside88 on January 19, 2019, 01:14:41 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 19, 2019, 01:29:45 PM
Like Dale said, eye fatigue is the main reason I originally stepped up and bought EL's. I can glass all day long, sun up to sun down and not get eye fatigue, headaches, dizziness etc.:yeah: :yeah: I bought the slc's, I will never have to buy another pair of bino's. No eye fatigue at all, save up a bit more and you'll be set. bought mine used, looked up the model number and called swaro to see if they were good and not stolen. Paid 1,000 for mine, no regerts (regrets) :chuckle:
Pre owned set of EL's with a warranty will be the best investment you ever made in hunting gear, likely the last time you ever purchase bino's. :twocents:
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on January 19, 2019, 02:31:06 PM