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Title: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 06:59:56 PM
An idea just occurred to me and I thought I’d check in. 

Have you ever heard of or seen someone attempting to make a decoy of themselves while predator hunting? 

That is, rather than hiding, or trying to blend into the background, then ambushing after some misdirection, have you heard of or seen anyone attempting to wear colors and create shapes so that they appear to be an animal that might be interesting to a coyote?  Maybe a deer? 

Any stories or history you guys know of?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: KFhunter on February 03, 2019, 07:01:56 PM
I know of a brush picker that disguised himself as a bear during bear season.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: idaho guy on February 03, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
No  :chuckle: people get shot every year somewhere wearing orange
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 07:28:15 PM
I know of a brush picker that disguised herself as a bear during bear season.

This seems pretty damn dangerous lol.  Do you know how that turned out?
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 07:28:59 PM
No  :chuckle: people get shot every year somewhere wearing orange

Yeah, you'd have to do all orange and off-season to even see if it worked, wouldn't you?  :P
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on February 03, 2019, 07:37:29 PM
I think I talked my wife into putting on a deer costume for you next Oct.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 07:45:56 PM
I think I talked my wife into putting on a deer costume for you next Oct.

You'll end up setting up a blind in the living room, it'll be a whole thing.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: konradcountry on February 03, 2019, 08:55:06 PM
I know of a brush picker that disguised himself as a bear during bear season.

Hopefully a bear will make sweet love to him.

Really tired of seeing bushpicker trash.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: KFhunter on February 03, 2019, 09:00:38 PM
I know of a brush picker that disguised himself as a bear during bear season.

Hopefully a bear will make sweet love to him.

Really tired of seeing bushpicker trash.

A bear hunter shot him dead
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Bill W on February 03, 2019, 09:03:58 PM
I used a red hankerchief to toll an antelope in.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Stein on February 03, 2019, 09:12:52 PM
I dress up as a guy that doesn't have the right tag.  Gets them interested every time, practically have to beat them off with a stick.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 03, 2019, 09:19:38 PM
That’s a great idea, if you want people shooting you. :bash: :yike:
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 11:13:30 PM
That’s a great idea, if you want people shooting you. :bash: :yike:

Ever heard of someone shooting an orange deer in February?
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 03, 2019, 11:20:54 PM
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OAUAAOSwCk9bUO8j/s-l640.jpg)

I wonder how they'd react...
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Fl0und3rz on February 04, 2019, 07:31:56 AM
Furries are always in season.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Thermal Predator Control on February 04, 2019, 07:52:48 AM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 04, 2019, 08:23:17 AM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!

You're telling me you don't want to disguise yourself as a wounded deer, draw in a coyote, and then kill it with a spear when it makes a move?  C'mon.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Thermal Predator Control on February 04, 2019, 08:32:28 AM
Ok, Tim Wells.......lol, have at bro.  Nice idea, but probably very unlikely it’s happen.  You’ll freeze your balls first.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: KFhunter on February 04, 2019, 08:48:23 AM
I used a red hankerchief to toll an antelope in.

use a white one for your next caribou hunt
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 04, 2019, 09:03:35 AM
I used a red hankerchief to toll an antelope in.

use a white one for your next caribou hunt

I saw a guy working with Steve Rinella do this successfully with a white mesh bag, they brought one that had decided to run back in with just flagging.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 04, 2019, 09:07:08 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/6850972/Man-dressed-in-animal-skin-shot-dead-during-hunt.html

This would probably be the result eventually, unless you did some kind of custom blaze orange and reflective one-off job. 

I bet it would work like gangbusters though if you could eliminate the dangers of being shot, I don't think it's an accident that basically every indigenous culture makes a big deal out of dressing up like and acting like animals as part of their hunting rituals.

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Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on February 04, 2019, 10:43:01 AM
Read an article about Les Johnson a few years ago. Said he wears white gloves while calling and they act like a decoy.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: konradcountry on February 04, 2019, 12:15:23 PM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!

You're telling me you don't want to disguise yourself as a wounded deer, draw in a coyote, and then kill it with a spear when it makes a move?  C'mon.

I really doubt you could do it with a spear.

Put on a deer mask and gloves, cover yourself in blood and drag yourself through the woods while making a distress call. If a coyote runs up then pull out a handgun.

Might work but in some areas you could get mauled by a cougar or bear. I'd probably want a backup shooter.

Is it a good idea? Probably not but would make a hilarious video.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on February 04, 2019, 12:30:05 PM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!

You're telling me you don't want to disguise yourself as a wounded deer, draw in a coyote, and then kill it with a spear when it makes a move?  C'mon.

I really doubt you could do it with a spear.

Put on a deer mask and gloves, cover yourself in blood and drag yourself through the woods while making a distress call. If a coyote runs up then pull out a handgun.

Might work but in some areas you could get mauled by a cougar or bear. I'd probably want a backup shooter.

Is it a good idea? Probably not but would make a hilarious video.

Lol!  That's what I'm screaming!  I mean it would be insane, and a pain in the ass, and you'd have to work at it for a year, and you really might die trying this, but can you imagine how amazing that video would be?

I would love to see a bow hunter go full indigenous, put on deer skin and antler garb, and sidle up alongside some deer and then zap it as it's standing 20 yards away just as confused as it can be.  I'd watch that video over and over.  I'm confident if you learned the moves it could be done.

Hell, you could just do it where you record yourself throwing off the deer costume when the predator approaches, and just make a montage of predators looking as confused by your bizarre human magic as they could.  I can just see the bear in my mind's eye, stopping short as the deer somehow disappears and is replaced by a human, staring confused.  It would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: KFhunter on February 04, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Alchase on February 04, 2019, 01:36:20 PM
LOL, would love to see the video of someone trying that with a Bobcat,  :yike:


 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: konradcountry on March 01, 2019, 07:20:53 PM
So did you try it?
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: kidkodger on March 03, 2019, 11:23:09 AM
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on March 04, 2019, 12:09:44 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on March 04, 2019, 12:46:00 PM
So did you try it?

I think I’ll stick to looking like things other humans aren’t particularly interested in shooting for now, keep it in my back pocket as a plan H, but I may try the concept in a limited way.

I’m considering incorporating some of the concept into a pair of gloves or even my rifle, so that should I be spotted getting on target, the reaction might be interest rather than panic.  It’s worth a try anyway.  If it works out I’ll let you guys know.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on March 04, 2019, 12:47:40 PM

Lol that tail chaser thing...  I mean that’s the idea isn’t it?
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: lord grizzly on March 04, 2019, 03:32:13 PM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!

It’s amazing how many guys over think coyote hunting. I went 3 for 3 Sunday morning and not one stand was there enough sage brush to hide in. Hell the first one I killed at 30 yards and I was sitting skylines on a knob in the wide open. Came right to the call.

Sit still, keep the wind, learn to call. It’s almost too easy
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on March 04, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Lol,  I think your over thinkin, just alittle.   Sounds like a lot of work to me.  Just get out there and get lots of stands in!

It’s amazing how many guys over think coyote hunting. I went 3 for 3 Sunday morning and not one stand was there enough sage brush to hide in. Hell the first one I killed at 30 yards and I was sitting skylines on a knob in the wide open. Came right to the call.

Sit still, keep the wind, learn to call. It’s almost too easy

It's only over-thinking if the goal is to kill coyotes regularly without unnecessary mental and physical effort, which is not everyone's idea of the best and most enjoyable use of their time. 

If the thinking and exploring possibilities is in itself enjoyable and part of the joy of the process, then exploring a notion like this one, even if only as an idea, is part of the fun and therefore worthwhile.

Oddball example:

Someone might be curious about whether it's possible to spear hunt coyote, and if so, how someone might actually pull it off. 

Now, that's nuts, it would be an enormous amount of work and probably you'd never succeed if you tried. 

If your goal with hunting coyotes is something along the lines of to kill coyotes without a lot of unnecessary work and effort, which is a perfectly good way to approach the thing, then the idea of spear hunting coyotes is completely pointless and crazy, and you might think the whole notion foolish. 

But if your goal with hunting coyotes is something along the lines of learning about yourself, and coyotes, hunting, history, and life, and along the way to kill some coyotes as a way to keep your activity grounded and directed, then the question of spear hunting coyotes might be pretty interesting.

See where I'm going with it?

In everything in life, for me, half the fun is mulling it over, exploring the possibilities, being inventive, and trying new things.  That's just me, I realize, but it's sometimes other people too.  That's okay I think.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: lord grizzly on March 04, 2019, 05:48:29 PM
Go nuts. My goal is to kill coyotes so that’s what I do. I’d be real carful walking around the brush dressed like a deer making animal noises. Lotsa guys shoot first and look second. Some real dumb asses out there year round...
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 04, 2019, 05:58:15 PM
I've had a coyote came to me from over 400 yards away.  I was walking on an open hillside with orange on.  I set down when he was at 250 yards, let him get to 150 yards.  DRT.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on March 04, 2019, 07:18:47 PM
Go nuts. My goal is to kill coyotes so that’s what I do. I’d be real carful walking around the brush dressed like a deer making animal noises. Lotsa guys shoot first and look second. Some real dumb asses out there year round...

Very good advice.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: Bofire on March 05, 2019, 09:25:01 AM
used to be a guy on predatormasters that claimed to wear a deer head hat, sit out in tall grass and call with just the head sticking up. He said he was on private land or leased land.

Carl
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: HoofsandWings on March 05, 2019, 02:19:58 PM

Lol that tail chaser thing...  I mean that’s the idea isn’t it?

I saw this in Cabelas. Worth a try on turkey.  The places I see the big gobblers is in the middle of open fields.
Title: Re: Odd Idea
Post by: captpschar on March 05, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
used to be a guy on predatormasters that claimed to wear a deer head hat, sit out in tall grass and call with just the head sticking up. He said he was on private land or leased land.

Carl

THAT'S! What I'm talking about.  Thank you for sharing!
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