Post by: brakelate on February 08, 2019, 10:53:04 AM
As best as I can tell my only legal options are to pay a licensed trapper or get an air rifle and shoot them on my own property after obtaining a small game license. Thoughts?
I do not yet own an air rifle. I am very much a novice. I see them on a daily basis and they routinely come within 50 yds of my home.
Post by: smithkl42 on February 08, 2019, 11:14:46 AM
That said, I don't know what the rules are in Gig Harbor. Nearly all municipalities have ordinances against firearms inside city limits (including subsonic .22 rounds), but the status of air rifles can vary. You'll want to call your local PD, or perhaps better yet, check the law yourself, as lots of times cops aren't really up-to-speed on what the actual law is.
Post by: smithkl42 on February 08, 2019, 11:18:49 AM
https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/GigHarbor/html/GigHarbor09/GigHarbor0920.html#9.20.020
Looks like you *could* use an air rifle (so long as you're not pointing it at anyone). You're not allowed to hunt, but you *are* allowed to remove nuisance animals:
"It shall be unlawful to hunt any animal by any means within the city limits. This prohibition does not apply to the removal of nuisance household animals, such as rodents and moles."
The key is whether a coyote which has been menacing your household falls into the category of a "nuisance household animal". I'm guessing you could make a good case, but you might want to check with the local PD anyway, to see if they'll have any problem with it.
Post by: brakelate on February 08, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
Actually, I spent a few minutes googling, and found this:
https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/GigHarbor/html/GigHarbor09/GigHarbor0920.html#9.20.020
Looks like you *could* use an air rifle (so long as you're not pointing it at anyone). You're not allowed to hunt, but you *are* allowed to remove nuisance animals:
"It shall be unlawful to hunt any animal by any means within the city limits. This prohibition does not apply to the removal of nuisance household animals, such as rodents and moles."
The key is whether a coyote which has been menacing your household falls into the category of a "nuisance household animal". I'm guessing you could make a good case, but you might want to check with the local PD anyway, to see if they'll have any problem with it.
Thanks for the link. I am well outside Gig Harbor proper city limits, but carry a Gig Harbor address. I will need to look more into that.
Ethically, yes I am a bit worried I would seriously injure the animal without eliminating it with an air rifle.
Post by: crowinghen on February 08, 2019, 11:31:29 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 08, 2019, 11:35:03 AM
Post by: brakelate on February 08, 2019, 11:38:32 AM
I'd probably use a 12 gauge shotgun. You're not in the city limits so their rules don't apply.
I am in Pierce County. A traditional firearm is not an option.
Post by: captpschar on February 08, 2019, 01:01:25 PM
Examples: https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan.html
These sorts of air rifles can make decent general hunting arms, and the suppressed versions are surprisingly quiet, to the point that animals and neighbors may not recognize the sound as anything dangerous.
Post by: captpschar on February 08, 2019, 01:06:35 PM
If you spent the money for a good setup and put the time in, you could probably put enough pressure on them that they'd stop coming around at all in short order.
Post by: jtan881 on February 08, 2019, 01:43:51 PM
Post by: Stein on February 08, 2019, 02:03:05 PM
use a bow?
:yeah:
Put a big fat expanding head on it and it shouldn't go far.
Post by: brakelate on February 09, 2019, 10:28:14 AM
If you can wrap your head around the cost, there are big bore PCP air rifles that will kill coyotes without special trick-shots.
Examples: https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan.html
These sorts of air rifles can make decent general hunting arms, and the suppressed versions are surprisingly quiet, to the point that animals and neighbors may not recognize the sound as anything dangerous.
This is exactly what I was looking at.
Need to do more research but any reason to select a smaller caliber or just go straight to the 0.45?
Post by: cdriver on February 09, 2019, 02:27:49 PM
Post by: konradcountry on February 09, 2019, 10:16:41 PM
They are easy to shoot and there is always a used one for sale somewhere.
Post by: captpschar on February 09, 2019, 10:37:43 PM
If you can wrap your head around the cost, there are big bore PCP air rifles that will kill coyotes without special trick-shots.
Examples: https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan.html
These sorts of air rifles can make decent general hunting arms, and the suppressed versions are surprisingly quiet, to the point that animals and neighbors may not recognize the sound as anything dangerous.
This is exactly what I was looking at.
Need to do more research but any reason to select a smaller caliber or just go straight to the 0.45?
Take a look at the velocity tables here: https://www.airforceairguns.com/Articles.asp?ID=143#5
You can see that the smaller caliber projectiles can be a bit flatter shooting, but that the .45 is the killinest by a bit. All the calibers will come out of the barrel at about low velocity handgun power levels, 45acp, 38 spl, things like that. I'd probably go with the .45 if it was me.
Post by: huntingfool7 on February 10, 2019, 06:32:38 AM
ETA- Note the very first review mentions noise on the "moderated" Texan SS
"Texan SS, It's the Bomb
I have been looking for a new hunting challenge and this year I found it, Big Bore airgun hunting in Texas. The problem was, I could find some big bore guns, but not the one I was looking for, the Texan SS in .45 caliber. To my surprise, the company rolled some out to the dealers and I immediately jumped on one. Granted, the season was almost over, but I quickly casted some slugs, sighted the gun in and set out on a pig adventure to the ranch. The first morning sit went great, pigs came in and I dropped one on the spot with a shot to the ear. The gun is a little loud and the pigs scattered, but didn't run far enough as I was able to load another slug and drop another at 50-yards."
Also need to consider safe fields of fire. These are not daisy red riders. I wouldn't shoot a .45 at 1,000 fps anywhere that I wouldn't shoot a 12 gauge.
Post by: konradcountry on February 10, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
This is all you need:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/767241/barnett-recruit-recurve-crossbow-package
Recurves are great if you only need it for urban coyotes.
Post by: jackelope on February 10, 2019, 08:43:02 AM
:dunno:
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I don’t know where the legality comes into play if you kill one only because it was coming within 50 yards of your house. If it’s not menacing you or your pets or livestock and not doing crop damage, coming too close might not be enough. I know where I sit... just have to decide for yourself.
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Post by: hunter399 on February 10, 2019, 09:13:52 AM
Post by: captpschar on February 10, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
This what you need . :chuckle: :chuckle: :tung:
Could you imagine walking the woods and finding a trail of 50 caliber brass laying out there in a line?
Post by: KB88 on February 10, 2019, 11:43:49 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 10, 2019, 12:34:02 PM
Get a license and have fun and get creative. Hang hooks and bait from a tree like them alligator folks do.
Yeah that would probably get him some unwanted press when a coyote is hanging from a tree with hooks it it’s mouth howling.🤔
Or worse a neighborhood dog/cat.🤯
Post by: KB88 on February 10, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
Post by: Cougartail on February 10, 2019, 02:00:22 PM
You just need some vinegar and a clapper.I tried the clapper but my lights just kept turning on and off..
:dunno:
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I don’t know where the legality comes into play if you kill one only because it was coming within 50 yards of your house. If it’s not menacing you or your pets or livestock and not doing crop damage, coming too close might not be enough. I know where I sit... just have to decide for yourself.
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