Post by: BullMagnet76 on February 24, 2019, 05:11:44 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 24, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
Can I assume you eliminated the Sig P365?
I carry a Ruger LC9S, but that dang P365 keeps calling to me......
Post by: BullMagnet76 on February 24, 2019, 06:03:16 PM
I don't know that I've ever shot the HK, but you can' go wrong with the Glock.
Can I assume you eliminated the Sig P365?
I carry a Ruger LC9S, but that dang P365 keeps calling to me......
I do own the new glock 43x but i want 1 more a lil bigger. Before you spend the money on the Sig 365 you may wanna look at the glock 43x It is glocks answer to Sigs 365. Watched a couple videos on both guns but Glock they say is a more reliable proven platfform
Post by: fowl smacker on February 24, 2019, 06:05:55 PM
Post by: Yondering on February 24, 2019, 06:13:15 PM
HK VP9 or Glock 19 Gen 5? Why??? I like the ergonomics of the HK but the reliability of the Glock
Both are good guns that should serve you well, and give you a lot more firepower than the little pocket guns like a 43 or LCP. I think you'd be choosing well with either one.
The biggest thing that sets those two choices apart IMO is aftermarket support - the Glock is ahead by miles in that area. Not that you should expect to need replacement parts, but things like holsters, spare OEM mags, etc are a lot easier to find for most Glock models than anything HK.
Post by: HighlandLofts on February 24, 2019, 06:42:45 PM
Post by: Bofire on February 24, 2019, 06:45:47 PM
Carl
by the way I carry neither now I carry Sig. a P226 Legion SAO to be specific
Post by: Alchase on February 24, 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Post by: slavenoid on February 24, 2019, 06:59:11 PM
Post by: NWShooter on February 24, 2019, 09:54:34 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 24, 2019, 10:14:35 PM
HK VP9 or Glock 19 Gen 5? Why??? I like the ergonomics of the HK but the reliability of the Glock
Both are good guns that should serve you well, and give you a lot more firepower than the little pocket guns like a 43 or LCP. I think you'd be choosing well with either one.
The biggest thing that sets those two choices apart IMO is aftermarket support - the Glock is ahead by miles in that area. Not that you should expect to need replacement parts, but things like holsters, spare OEM mags, etc are a lot easier to find for most Glock models than anything HK.
You just called my Ruger a little pocket gun........ :'(
Post by: Yondering on February 24, 2019, 10:26:12 PM
HK VP9 or Glock 19 Gen 5? Why??? I like the ergonomics of the HK but the reliability of the Glock
Both are good guns that should serve you well, and give you a lot more firepower than the little pocket guns like a 43 or LCP. I think you'd be choosing well with either one.
The biggest thing that sets those two choices apart IMO is aftermarket support - the Glock is ahead by miles in that area. Not that you should expect to need replacement parts, but things like holsters, spare OEM mags, etc are a lot easier to find for most Glock models than anything HK.
You just called my Ruger a little pocket gun........ :'(
Hey, I intentionally tried not to single you out... :)
But yeah, that's a pocket gun. Glock calls their 43 a pocket gun too. I have one, but only carry it in special circumstances where I can't carry a 19.
Post by: Dan-o on February 24, 2019, 10:35:52 PM
HK VP9 or Glock 19 Gen 5? Why??? I like the ergonomics of the HK but the reliability of the Glock
Both are good guns that should serve you well, and give you a lot more firepower than the little pocket guns like a 43 or LCP. I think you'd be choosing well with either one.
The biggest thing that sets those two choices apart IMO is aftermarket support - the Glock is ahead by miles in that area. Not that you should expect to need replacement parts, but things like holsters, spare OEM mags, etc are a lot easier to find for most Glock models than anything HK.
You just called my Ruger a little pocket gun........ :'(
Hey, I intentionally tried not to single you out... :)
But yeah, that's a pocket gun. Glock calls their 43 a pocket gun too. I have one, but only carry it in special circumstances where I can't carry a 19.
No problem. Besides, I feel better with the 9 round mags. I know it doesn't compete(capacity wise) with the Glock, the HK or the Sig......... But I do own it, and that's a plus.
Post by: mountainman on February 24, 2019, 11:42:56 PM
Never been a Glock fan
Post by: adamR on February 25, 2019, 05:04:25 AM
Post by: cohocrazy on February 25, 2019, 05:55:15 AM
Post by: actionshooter on February 25, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
Post by: skeeter 20i on February 25, 2019, 01:03:39 PM
Post by: floatinghat on February 25, 2019, 02:25:05 PM
I looked at the 19 and liked the reliability and didn't like the feel. I got both with a CZ-p01
Post by: fowl smacker on February 25, 2019, 04:28:59 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only CZ "fanboy", they make great products.
I looked at the 19 and liked the reliability and didn't like the feel. I got both with a CZ-p01
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on February 25, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on February 25, 2019, 05:51:47 PM
I don't know that I've ever shot the HK, but you can' go wrong with the Glock.
Can I assume you eliminated the Sig P365?
I carry a Ruger LC9S, but that dang P365 keeps calling to me......
Just do it. It will call and call and call. I am happy with mine.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on February 26, 2019, 02:39:27 PM
Post by: Yondering on February 26, 2019, 03:36:11 PM
Glock is the iPhone of the gun world.
This is true in a good way, and not just because of the aftermarket support; their reputation for dependability is well deserved. A carry gun shouldn't need to be special or different, quite the opposite IMO. Save the special and unique guns for the range toys (not saying there's anything wrong with those, I have plenty), the carry gun is a tool and needs to be as proven and dependable as grampa's old hammer.
Post by: BullMagnet76 on February 26, 2019, 04:15:06 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 26, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on February 26, 2019, 10:43:31 PM
Glock is the iPhone of the gun world.
This is true in a good way, and not just because of the aftermarket support; their reputation for dependability is well deserved. A carry gun shouldn't need to be special or different, quite the opposite IMO. Save the special and unique guns for the range toys (not saying there's anything wrong with those, I have plenty), the carry gun is a tool and needs to be as proven and dependable as grampa's old hammer.
I agree a weapon is a tool and Glock used to be top notch. Carried one for years even owned 3 at one point. However they have literally done nothing significant since they put a rail on them. What gen 5 now? I can pick up a gen 1 and and gen 5 and if it weren't for the grip texture there would be 0 difference in performance.
Since everyone makes a polymer striker gun now I personally think glock is in the dust. Other companies have tried different things and I now think make better out of the box guns than glocks.
Post by: Romulus1297 on February 26, 2019, 11:21:43 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 27, 2019, 06:55:56 AM
Glock is the iPhone of the gun world.
This is true in a good way, and not just because of the aftermarket support; their reputation for dependability is well deserved. A carry gun shouldn't need to be special or different, quite the opposite IMO. Save the special and unique guns for the range toys (not saying there's anything wrong with those, I have plenty), the carry gun is a tool and needs to be as proven and dependable as grampa's old hammer.
I agree a weapon is a tool and Glock used to be top notch. Carried one for years even owned 3 at one point. However they have literally done nothing significant since they put a rail on them. What gen 5 now? I can pick up a gen 1 and and gen 5 and if it weren't for the grip texture there would be 0 difference in performance.
Since everyone makes a polymer striker gun now I personally think glock is in the dust. Other companies have tried different things and I now think make better out of the box guns than glocks.
:yeah:
Post by: slavenoid on February 27, 2019, 11:41:21 AM
Post by: Yondering on February 27, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
Well I couldnt decide so I got both, had to make some sacrifices but came up with enough to get em.
That is always the right answer! Especially in today's political climate with potential bans looming. Good choice!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 01, 2019, 05:14:42 AM
Post by: TheArmoredShop on March 23, 2019, 03:00:14 PM
HK VP9 or Glock 19 Gen 5? Why??? I like the ergonomics of the HK but the reliability of the Glock
I have theG19x and the VP9. I’m a big fan of Glock, but I get tighter groups with the VP9 and it’s a more comfortable EDC.
If you could shoot them sxs I would. But with the glocks I own, I still prefer the HK
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Post by: wildfire on March 26, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
Post by: magnanimous_j on March 27, 2019, 12:31:16 PM
Glock is the iPhone of the gun world.
This is true in a good way, and not just because of the aftermarket support; their reputation for dependability is well deserved. A carry gun shouldn't need to be special or different, quite the opposite IMO. Save the special and unique guns for the range toys (not saying there's anything wrong with those, I have plenty), the carry gun is a tool and needs to be as proven and dependable as grampa's old hammer.
I agree a weapon is a tool and Glock used to be top notch. Carried one for years even owned 3 at one point. However they have literally done nothing significant since they put a rail on them. What gen 5 now? I can pick up a gen 1 and and gen 5 and if it weren't for the grip texture there would be 0 difference in performance.
Since everyone makes a polymer striker gun now I personally think glock is in the dust. Other companies have tried different things and I now think make better out of the box guns than glocks.
I agree up to the point where you say there are better polymer striker guns. I honestly don't think it matters much anymore. Glock, XD, FN9, Storm etc etc etc.
They are all so reliable and similar that they are almost boring
Post by: Mongo Hunter on March 27, 2019, 02:23:11 PM
Post by: Cab on March 27, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
Post by: Pegasus on March 27, 2019, 03:10:30 PM
Walther PPQ, exact same as HK but with a better trigger and cost less. Glocks are fine and there is nothing wrong with them, I just can't justify the price when there are guns that don't need any aftermarket parts to feel perfect. If you can't pick which one, go a range, rent them and see which one you like better. In the end it's up to you.
I am an owner of a Walther PPQ. Without a doubt the finest pistol I have ever fired. Find a range that has one and fire it. You will not be disappointed.
Post by: tkupferer on March 27, 2019, 03:16:56 PM
Post by: Yondering on March 27, 2019, 06:44:37 PM
I when I say "better" I mean driving more innovation. Like Sig p320 with the modular trigger system, or others with more capacity, or recoil systems, RMR cuts ect. Look at a glock 17 and compare it to the Canik TP9SFX. look at everything it comes with compared to the glock. I just feel other companies are at least TRYING where Glock just keeps the same ol same ol. If they don't innovate soon, I feel they'll start getting replaced.
When I'm looking for a good reliable tool, I don't care about "driving innovation" or all the accessories it comes with, I want something that works well and is proven and reliable. Some of you guys are funny.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on March 28, 2019, 06:32:25 AM
Post by: Yondering on March 28, 2019, 09:33:45 AM
Post by: thinkingman on March 28, 2019, 10:54:54 AM
Those polymer guns are like the Toyota Camry of the gun world.Glock is the iPhone of the gun world.
This is true in a good way, and not just because of the aftermarket support; their reputation for dependability is well deserved. A carry gun shouldn't need to be special or different, quite the opposite IMO. Save the special and unique guns for the range toys (not saying there's anything wrong with those, I have plenty), the carry gun is a tool and needs to be as proven and dependable as grampa's old hammer.
I agree a weapon is a tool and Glock used to be top notch. Carried one for years even owned 3 at one point. However they have literally done nothing significant since they put a rail on them. What gen 5 now? I can pick up a gen 1 and and gen 5 and if it weren't for the grip texture there would be 0 difference in performance.
Since everyone makes a polymer striker gun now I personally think glock is in the dust. Other companies have tried different things and I now think make better out of the box guns than glocks.
I agree up to the point where you say there are better polymer striker guns. I honestly don't think it matters much anymore. Glock, XD, FN9, Storm etc etc etc.
They are all so reliable and similar that they are almost boring
Some people think they're great, some people think they're dull, boring, basic, overrated.
Pegasus, if you think the Walther PPQ is the finest pistol you've ever fired, somebody needs to get a nice 1911 in your hands.
Post by: Alchase on March 28, 2019, 11:44:11 AM
So all this is like a Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge argument everyone likes what they carry.
But obviously if you don’t carry what I do you are an idiot, duh :dunno:
:chuckle:
I have had many different carry guns, they all served the need.
Post by: Pegasus on March 28, 2019, 11:50:02 AM
Those polymer guns are like the Toyota Camry of the gun world.
Some people think they're great, some people think they're dull, boring, basic, overrated.
Pegasus, if you think the Walther PPQ is the finest pistol you've ever fired, somebody needs to get a nice 1911 in your hands.
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I am former military and I have certainly fired the 1911(.45). I found it clumsy and difficult to use even though I could shoot expert with it. I saw many others struggle to shoot it. I never liked the grip safety. It was designed as a safety for the US Calvary to keep them from shooting themselves or their horse while astride a horse especially while reloading. It has no comparison to my Walther PPQ in my opinion. Everyone is different with what works for them.
Post by: konradcountry on March 29, 2019, 09:53:49 AM
Those polymer guns are like the Toyota Camry of the gun world.
Some people think they're great, some people think they're dull, boring, basic, overrated.
Pegasus, if you think the Walther PPQ is the finest pistol you've ever fired, somebody needs to get a nice 1911 in your hands.
I'd say they are closer to the F150. Rugged, reliable and gets the job done.
I've shot a high end 1911 and I have to say I wasn't impressed. Yea it had a nice solid feel but with a fully loaded magazine the weight is a bit much for anything but side carry.
I have a subcompact Glock and I'll be the first to tell you it isn't a great shooter. But I'm not looking to make clover leaf holes at the range with it. It's for concealed carry and in a IWB holster I don't even notice it is there.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 29, 2019, 10:12:13 AM