Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 07, 2019, 05:37:25 AM
Post by: MADMAX on March 07, 2019, 05:41:07 AM
Its been a rat race for the last 20 years, used to be a nice spring walk in between cowlitz springers
Post by: nwwanderer on March 07, 2019, 06:23:53 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on March 07, 2019, 07:53:06 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2019, 07:56:41 AM
Have seen families with members that hire runners to beat their kin after a horn drop watch. Try to contain yourselves in areas under stress, they really need to be left alone, thanksI really try to contain myself when I see guys posting about going out antler hunting in January or feburary, your correct, they need to be left alone. Guys are getting out way too soon.
Post by: cbond3318 on March 07, 2019, 08:02:29 AM
Have seen families with members that hire runners to beat their kin after a horn drop watch. Try to contain yourselves in areas under stress, they really need to be left alone, thanksI really try to contain myself when I see guys posting about going out antler hunting in January or feburary, your correct, they need to be left alone. Guys are getting out way too soon.
There is a way to do it and a way not to do it, but there are a lot of people that don't give a rip about how they go about it.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2019, 08:17:06 AM
Agree, even when I wait till late March and I see elk or deer in the woods I try to steer away from them without bugging.Have seen families with members that hire runners to beat their kin after a horn drop watch. Try to contain yourselves in areas under stress, they really need to be left alone, thanksI really try to contain myself when I see guys posting about going out antler hunting in January or feburary, your correct, they need to be left alone. Guys are getting out way too soon.
There is a way to do it and a way not to do it, but there are a lot of people that don't give a rip about how they go about it.
Post by: vandeman17 on March 07, 2019, 08:25:47 AM
Agree, even when I wait till late March and I see elk or deer in the woods I try to steer away from them without bugging.Have seen families with members that hire runners to beat their kin after a horn drop watch. Try to contain yourselves in areas under stress, they really need to be left alone, thanksI really try to contain myself when I see guys posting about going out antler hunting in January or feburary, your correct, they need to be left alone. Guys are getting out way too soon.
There is a way to do it and a way not to do it, but there are a lot of people that don't give a rip about how they go about it.
If I am out early, which has been a few years, I glass an area very thoroughly before I hike through it. I am not really looking for sheds as much as I am trying not to bump any critters.
Post by: woodswalker on March 07, 2019, 09:26:24 AM
Post by: MADMAX on March 07, 2019, 09:28:18 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/us/incredible-video-shows-elk-herd-crossing-snowy-oregon-road
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 07, 2019, 10:57:06 AM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/living/winter_feeding/wildlife.html
Post by: Old Man Yager on March 07, 2019, 11:05:00 AM
I go in Jan and Feb, but I'm mostly just looking for last years drops that have been missed because they couldn't be seen in the brush. If I see Elk, I'm just taking mental notes on where I've seen them so I'll have a place to look in Late March and April.Have seen families with members that hire runners to beat their kin after a horn drop watch. Try to contain yourselves in areas under stress, they really need to be left alone, thanksI really try to contain myself when I see guys posting about going out antler hunting in January or feburary, your correct, they need to be left alone. Guys are getting out way too soon.
Post by: MtnMuley on March 07, 2019, 01:11:45 PM
hmmm, wonder what got them pushed hard
https://www.foxnews.com/us/incredible-video-shows-elk-herd-crossing-snowy-oregon-road
ODFW trying to get them out of the valley.
Post by: MADMAX on March 07, 2019, 04:23:53 PM
Ty
Post by: eastfork on April 04, 2019, 07:41:05 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 04, 2019, 07:43:35 AM
Post by: snake on April 04, 2019, 07:37:30 PM
Post by: spoonman on April 04, 2019, 08:25:56 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 05, 2019, 05:55:47 AM
I vote no for a shed season. Makes about as much sense as gun control.
I forgot. Which Amendment covers shed hunting?
Post by: birddogdad on April 05, 2019, 06:11:13 AM
Interesting article on the WDFW website regarding winter feeding of wildlife, asserting that feeding is "discouraged". Depending on what they're using to attract the wildlife, they may be killing these animals.:yeah:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/living/winter_feeding/wildlife.html
thought you would need big brothers approval to feed wild game thru winters?
Post by: lord grizzly on April 05, 2019, 07:02:32 AM
I vote no for a shed season. Makes about as much sense as gun control.
I forgot. Which Amendment covers shed hunting?
its amazing isn't it....
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on April 05, 2019, 07:51:56 AM
I agree with the sentiment and I understand the frustration with idiots. But have to agree with pro shed crowd, their is anti harrassment laws in place, as well as restricted areas, if you can't monitor and punish the current violaters what good is it to restrict others, just to feel good about it.
Statewide season is crazy IMO, what about antlers that drop in someone's back forty? I work in the woods alot and find sheds often would I now have to leave them? Are we going to restrict all forest operation as well? Shed hunting itself is not the issue animal harrassment is. Laws against that already.
And again it comes down to enforcement. Plenty of areas are closed by wdfw to provide safe zones. If everyone played by the rules it would be perfect. But so many do not that it almost seems like a joke to even have them. Basically making prime areas for anyone who is lazy and willing to risk it.
If anything should change it should be a focus on monitor and patrol of ALL safe zones, as well as severe punishment for any motorized harrassment and non motorized hazing.
Post by: TommyH on April 05, 2019, 08:15:27 AM
Perhaps it's not an amendment, but it certainly affects my right to liberty and the pursuit of happinness. :tup:
I agree with the sentiment and I understand the frustration with idiots. But have to agree with pro shed crowd, their is anti harrassment laws in place, as well as restricted areas, if you can't monitor and punish the current violaters what good is it to restrict others, just to feel good about it.
Statewide season is crazy IMO, what about antlers that drop in someone's back forty? I work in the woods alot and find sheds often would I now have to leave them? Are we going to restrict all forest operation as well? Shed hunting itself is not the issue animal harrassment is. Laws against that already.
And again it comes down to enforcement. Plenty of areas are closed by wdfw to provide safe zones. If everyone played by the rules it would be perfect. But so many do not that it almost seems like a joke to even have them. Basically making prime areas for anyone who is lazy and willing to risk it.
If anything should change it should be a focus on monitor and patrol of ALL safe zones, as well as severe punishment for any motorized harrassment and non motorized hazing.
:tup:
Post by: lord grizzly on April 05, 2019, 03:26:45 PM
Perhaps it's not an amendment, but it certainly affects my right to liberty and the pursuit of happinness. :tup:
I agree with the sentiment and I understand the frustration with idiots. But have to agree with pro shed crowd, their is anti harrassment laws in place, as well as restricted areas, if you can't monitor and punish the current violaters what good is it to restrict others, just to feel good about it.
Statewide season is crazy IMO, what about antlers that drop in someone's back forty? I work in the woods alot and find sheds often would I now have to leave them? Are we going to restrict all forest operation as well? Shed hunting itself is not the issue animal harrassment is. Laws against that already.
And again it comes down to enforcement. Plenty of areas are closed by wdfw to provide safe zones. If everyone played by the rules it would be perfect. But so many do not that it almost seems like a joke to even have them. Basically making prime areas for anyone who is lazy and willing to risk it.
If anything should change it should be a focus on monitor and patrol of ALL safe zones, as well as severe punishment for any motorized harrassment and non motorized hazing.
However still not unprecedented and by your logic hunting seasons impede on your pursute of happiness. State wide may be on the extreme end but man the internet has turned shed hunting into a dangerous season for vulnerable animals coming off winter. I think there should be restrictions
Post by: MADMAX on April 05, 2019, 07:49:32 PM
But after 25 years of shed hunting
It’s no longer what it was
Shed dogs
Drones
Trackers planted in sheds to bust guys
Guys stockpiling
Horse riders cutting off guys on foot
Do I still love it
Hell yes
I did sun river in Montana a couple years ago
Vehicles parked a week before it opened and a line opening day miles long
It is indeed looking for brown gold
With all the negatives and greed thrown in
People are our own worst enemies
Lots of things have changed since I started
It’s now $$ and a selfie to a lot of folks
Too bad
Post by: snake on April 05, 2019, 08:19:01 PM
No mention to 2A was given. Like others have said already. The laws are already in place to protect the animals. It's all about enforcing the laws we have. Similar to my comment about gun control, laws are in place already, just need to enforce what is there.I vote no for a shed season. Makes about as much sense as gun control.
I forgot. Which Amendment covers shed hunting?
Post by: eastfork on April 06, 2019, 02:11:22 PM
That's why the jails are full. But if the fines where greater than they are now, then even the casual violator may think twice. I still think a license would be could. Also, make it area specific. Increase fine amounts to make them think twice. And also stricker patrols. License fees should be high enough to keep most people out of the woods pushing animals around
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 07, 2019, 11:28:00 AM
No mention to 2A was given. Like others have said already. The laws are already in place to protect the animals. It's all about enforcing the laws we have. Similar to my comment about gun control, laws are in place already, just need to enforce what is there.I vote no for a shed season. Makes about as much sense as gun control.
I forgot. Which Amendment covers shed hunting?
You said it makes as much sense as gun control. We have Constitutional rights regarding gun control. We have no Constitutional right regarding shed hunting. There may be laws in place for specific refuges and other areas, but there are no laws in place for most of the state regarding shed hunting. Some people think they're necessary to protect fragile animals in the wintering grounds. People get crazy on shed hunting and many either don't realize or don't care about their impact on these animals.
Post by: snake on April 07, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
I agree with you. We are basically saying the same thing. I just don't think more laws will help. has nothing to do with constitutional rights.No mention to 2A was given. Like others have said already. The laws are already in place to protect the animals. It's all about enforcing the laws we have. Similar to my comment about gun control, laws are in place already, just need to enforce what is there.I vote no for a shed season. Makes about as much sense as gun control.
I forgot. Which Amendment covers shed hunting?
You said it makes as much sense as gun control. We have Constitutional rights regarding gun control. We have no Constitutional right regarding shed hunting. There may be laws in place for specific refuges and other areas, but there are no laws in place for most of the state regarding shed hunting. Some people think they're necessary to protect fragile animals in the wintering grounds. People get crazy on shed hunting and many either don't realize or don't care about their impact on these animals.
Post by: buckfvr on April 07, 2019, 01:05:48 PM
People are the problem and wdfw manages people, not animals.....they cant write citations to animals, otherwise they would.
Post by: millerwheeler on April 17, 2019, 09:06:06 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 17, 2019, 10:36:49 AM
Post by: beauhunter on April 27, 2019, 03:12:13 PM