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I did, 1st timer so I fully expect to draw nothing:yeah:
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Post by: grundy53 on March 12, 2019, 05:07:16 AM
You missed the boat I believeNot for points only
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 12, 2019, 05:09:00 AM
Post by: lemondog on March 12, 2019, 05:54:13 AM
Ahh yes points only just go for broke and put in for the Henrys.
Same here..LOL!
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on March 12, 2019, 07:09:22 AM
Well dang, my buddies didn't tell me about applying for Utah!!!! I take it, it's cheap to apply for? And same for Wyoming, you can buy points later in the year?You can still buy a $65 license this year and buy points until March 21, then use the same license to apply next year
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Post by: trophyhunt on March 12, 2019, 07:35:00 AM
thank you, I’ll get on it! Do they allow partners to apply, up to how many? About how many years is it taking to draw a decent (not trophy) type hunt for deer , elk?Well dang, my buddies didn't tell me about applying for Utah!!!! I take it, it's cheap to apply for? And same for Wyoming, you can buy points later in the year?You can still buy a $65 license this year and buy points until March 21, then use the same license to apply next year
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Post by: sjhgraysage on March 12, 2019, 01:03:57 PM
If I drew elk it would be like hitting the lotto. I applied for Fillmore Pahvant any weapon early.
Good luck!
Post by: trophyhunt on March 12, 2019, 06:33:44 PM
Post by: High Climber on March 12, 2019, 07:31:24 PM
Trying to buy points but I don’t see where they are to put in my cart??????? I signed in, have a license in my cart but can’t find where to buy points??
If I remember right you have to apply for big game tags and the only option to put in for at this time is points. Hope that helps
Post by: trophyhunt on March 12, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 12, 2019, 08:34:04 PM
https://www.utah-hunt.com/(S(n43rotztt32kkdqmkev40qam))/default.aspx
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Post by: jjhunter on March 12, 2019, 08:39:10 PM
Kinda wish I never started in Utah. Once I use my pts, I’m done.
Post by: grundy53 on March 12, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
Be interested to see where folks are with points. I have 12 deer and 10 elk. No man’s land. In that same time, I’ve drawn top tier units in CO, ID and Nevada. 3 in Idaho and 2 in Nevada.I just started a couple years ago. So 2 deer 2 elk and 2 antelope. The good news is after the draw I'll have 3 of each :chuckle:
Kinda wish I never started in Utah. Once I use my pts, I’m done.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 12, 2019, 08:46:20 PM
Post by: jjhunter on March 12, 2019, 08:50:14 PM
I need to stop buying them...
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 12, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
I have 7 general deer tag pts, I need to hunt the general as I have twice as many as it takes to draw the “toughest” unit:chuckle: over achiever. That's where I'm at. Time to pick a spot I can hunt every year and start learning it inside and out. The potential for a solid addition to the line up is definitely there.
I need to stop buying them...
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Post by: jjhunter on March 12, 2019, 09:12:46 PM
Hell, I’ll have enough for 3-4 guys!
Post by: grundy53 on March 12, 2019, 09:23:23 PM
You go check it out and I’ll share my pts with you the following year :chuckle:There is actually a general unit that takes 8 points to draw. Might be a good one for you to burn your points on so they don't feel wasted.
Hell, I’ll have enough for 3-4 guys!
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Post by: trophyhunt on March 13, 2019, 07:05:44 AM
Post by: Stein on March 13, 2019, 07:28:48 AM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
The only reason I get an elk point is because it is $5 after I apply for Bison. I think even then I am probably just throwing $5 away.
Post by: grundy53 on March 13, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.You can get a general tag pretty much every year 2.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 13, 2019, 07:42:53 AM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.you're really old Jerry but you still have one or two seasons left in you before the nursing home :chuckle:
You can absolutely jump in, you just need to tailor your expectations. You need to be planning on HUNTING not point building. If you are trying to get a top tier unit you will always be behind but theres mountains of tags across the west that can be had with 0-3 points. Lots of which will be far better than WA premier draw units. Start hunting man!
Post by: trophyhunt on March 13, 2019, 07:52:03 AM
I'll be signing up to hunting fool here in the next day or two, maybe that will help me figure out the puzzle of decent tags to apply for and not the lifelong commitment ones.Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.you're really old Jerry but you still have one or two seasons left in you before the nursing home :chuckle:
You can absolutely jump in, you just need to tailor your expectations. You need to be planning on HUNTING not point building. If you are trying to get a top tier unit you will always be behind but theres mountains of tags across the west that can be had with 0-3 points. Lots of which will be far better than WA premier draw units. Start hunting man!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 13, 2019, 07:54:06 AM
Post by: Stein on March 13, 2019, 09:17:06 AM
If you aren't at the top of the points pile for the super max tags, you will never get there. It's a simple fact but people keep trying. Maybe something will change, but if I was in search of one of those tags, I would take all that money, put it in a savings account every year and plan on buying a landowner tag in NM or someplace like that in 10-15 years.
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on March 13, 2019, 11:25:19 AM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
The only reason I get an elk point is because it is $5 after I apply for Bison. I think even then I am probably just throwing $5 away.
All of mine were $10 each
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on March 13, 2019, 11:37:49 AM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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Post by: time2hunt on March 13, 2019, 11:58:29 AM
I'm in for everything but elk in Utah. I did luck out and draw a hunt expo elk tag in the Wasatch with a muzzie!Congrats on the tag!!! We had one in our group pull the book cliffs roadless elk
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Post by: huntnnw on March 13, 2019, 10:12:41 PM
Anybody know when they tend to hit cards and will it be before Washington's deadline to apply? Got my fingers crossed for LE early muzzleloader elk 17 points for my dad and myself
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Post by: Bigshooter on March 14, 2019, 12:51:40 AM
Anybody know when they tend to hit cards and will it be before Washington's deadline to apply? Got my fingers crossed for LE early muzzleloader elk 17 points for my dad and myself
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I think you're thinking about NV. I have wrote down that CC's started getting hit 5-9-18 last year in UT.
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I think I have 20 moose and deer points.
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 14, 2019, 08:52:11 AM
Everything that twitches basically. Mostly just banking points but.....someone has to win it right?
I think I have 20 moose and deer points.
:yike: This would be a real good year to burn those deer points!
Post by: dscubame on March 14, 2019, 01:49:12 PM
Everything that twitches basically. Mostly just banking points but.....someone has to win it right?
I think I have 20 moose and deer points.
Dang! I look forward to the day you draw!
Post by: grundy53 on March 14, 2019, 01:49:52 PM
Me tooEverything that twitches basically. Mostly just banking points but.....someone has to win it right?
I think I have 20 moose and deer points.
Dang! I look forward to the day you draw!
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I put in for antelope. I dont bother with moosenor sheep.
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Post by: Duckhunter14 on May 01, 2019, 07:47:33 PM
I should be a shoe in for a tag this fall. My boss is telling me no vacation this fall. I already negotiated for some November time. Might be time for a job change. lol
Looks like you'll have all the time you want! :chuckle: Take Sep-Nov off and have a job lined up to start in December...If only it was that easy.....
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Post by: idaho guy on May 02, 2019, 09:48:55 PM
Now I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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Post by: Stein on May 03, 2019, 07:19:45 AM
Stein congrats did your card get Hit?
No, just a feeling in the air. Probably gas.
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 03, 2019, 12:01:13 PM
I look at it as an opportunity to add more hunting to my calendar, fairly close to home, maybe the hunting won’t be better than Idaho but a guy can only do so much here in IdahoNow I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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Post by: idaho guy on May 03, 2019, 12:15:25 PM
I look at it as an opportunity to add more hunting to my calendar, fairly close to home, maybe the hunting won’t be better than Idaho but a guy can only do so much here in IdahoNow I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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:tup: You must have more free time than me! If you hunt every tag they give you in the Idaho sportsman pack its almost year round. Thanks for your thoughts on it. I am perplexed yearly by the question of putting in out of state and if its worth it :chuckle: I jumped into New Mexico and Colorado this year for the first time and have usually also hunted Montana every year I draw for the last 20. Pretty sure I will give Utah a pass hope you draw some good hunts
Post by: idaho guy on May 03, 2019, 12:16:18 PM
I've hunted many units Utah and idaho, it's definitely worth trying to draw any limited-entry elk tag in Utah. But, I think Idaho's general season hunts are better than Utah's general season hunts. :twocents:
:tup: thanks confirms what I was thinking
Post by: bearpaw on May 04, 2019, 01:11:25 PM
I've hunted many units Utah and idaho, it's definitely worth trying to draw any limited-entry elk tag in Utah. But, I think Idaho's general season hunts are better than Utah's general season hunts. :twocents:
:tup: thanks confirms what I was thinking
There is an exception, if you have a large private ranch in a general season area in Utah it can be very good. I used to do hunts on a ranch in a general season area, it was big enough that the elk herd stayed on the ranch and the number of hunters was controlled, opportunity was normally 100% on 260-320 bulls. But the public land in general season areas is not as good, we rarely see bulls larger than 5x5 or small 6x6, in Idaho you can kill a 300 class bull in most any general season unit if you can find him, they are there, and generally you will see fewer hunters in an Idaho general season than a Utah general season.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on May 08, 2019, 10:02:14 AM
I haven't recieved an angry phone call from my wife so mine hasn't been hit yet :chuckle:
That's exactly how I knew I would know ASAP.
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Post by: HUNT on May 10, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 10, 2019, 09:32:32 AM
What would an $800 charge be for?
f'real?
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 10, 2019, 09:51:15 AM
What would an $800 charge be for?You better not be messin with us!
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Post by: HUNT on May 10, 2019, 10:09:39 AM
It could be for a lot of things...lol. But was it from Utah fish and game that the charge came from🤔
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Maybe I'm stirring things up a bit, but I do have a recent charge.
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Post by: grundy53 on May 10, 2019, 11:30:35 AM
It could be for a lot of things...lol. But was it from Utah fish and game that the charge came from🤔I think it would be their contractor out of Fallon, Nevada, right?
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Post by: polishstunner on May 10, 2019, 04:31:21 PM
Maybe a phone call from the raffle tickets I got fornvernon deer. Pts only for deer and elk. Now at 12! Might have a chance in 6 years......
Post by: bearpaw on May 11, 2019, 07:02:58 PM
I have not drawn a converted tag since 1982.
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Post by: Brushbuster on May 11, 2019, 10:48:43 PM
Wahoo...........
I have not drawn a converted tag since 1982.
Congratulations Dale! What a long dry spell!! Looking forward to reading about your adventure. :hunter:
Post by: idaho guy on May 12, 2019, 02:24:14 PM
Post by: idaho guy on May 12, 2019, 02:40:57 PM
I look at it as an opportunity to add more hunting to my calendar, fairly close to home, maybe the hunting won’t be better than Idaho but a guy can only do so much here in IdahoNow I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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I have been thinking about this. I don’t want this to come off the wrong way and want different viewpoints as I am slowly adding in some out of state draws. We can shoot 2 deer,2 elk, 2 bear, 2 lions and unlimited bobcats(in season) unlimited coyotes and I can legally tag 10 wolves. Not to mention 5 turkey s ,ducks etc. do you really need another tag out of state that might be of equal or less quality than what you can do here? I hunt all seasons in Idaho and was thinking you focus on deer? Just trying to put it together on these out of state apps and what makes sense for me. Seems like a lot of hype surrounding the western states apps which I understand for someone in New Jersey just not sure it makes sense for Idaho residents. I can easily get caught up in the hype
Post by: bearpaw on May 12, 2019, 04:24:44 PM
I look at it as an opportunity to add more hunting to my calendar, fairly close to home, maybe the hunting won’t be better than Idaho but a guy can only do so much here in IdahoNow I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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I have been thinking about this. I don’t want this to come off the wrong way and want different viewpoints as I am slowly adding in some out of state draws. We can shoot 2 deer,2 elk, 2 bear, 2 lions and unlimited bobcats(in season) unlimited coyotes and I can legally tag 10 wolves. Not to mention 5 turkey s ,ducks etc. do you really need another tag out of state that might be of equal or less quality than what you can do here? I hunt all seasons in Idaho and was thinking you focus on deer? Just trying to put it together on these out of state apps and what makes sense for me. Seems like a lot of hype surrounding the western states apps which I understand for someone in New Jersey just not sure it makes sense for Idaho residents. I can easily get caught up in the hype
I love Idaho, I think it's one of, if not the most hunter friendly state in the nation with more opportunity than any other lower 48 state. You are being smart, you should be careful with other state draws, go for the hunts that will give you a chance at a real good bull or don't bother, the same is true with deer! :tup:
Post by: idaho guy on May 12, 2019, 05:47:23 PM
I look at it as an opportunity to add more hunting to my calendar, fairly close to home, maybe the hunting won’t be better than Idaho but a guy can only do so much here in IdahoNow I'm second guessing myself, I've wanted out of the points game here in wa and now I want to start all over in another state at almost 50 years old? I'm thinking I'll just pass, Idaho will be my go to non resident hunt, with no points game to play I'll feel much better about it. I do appreciate all the help though and wish you guys lots of luck! Those permits looks crazy hard to draw, I hope your all young guys with lots of time to kill.
Utah has been one of those states I’ve been avoiding, I think my mindset on it was mostly colored by the fact that Utah is the motherland for all anti public land and anti North American model policies. Then a buddy texted me the other day asking me how the Utah draw worked for deer. I looked into the general deer hunts and the prices and at that point I almost couldn’t help but jump in. Utah has the cheapest points in the West, if I figure I spent $155 for 9 points this year and I spend another $90 for 9 points next year they come out to about $13.61 each, now if I play my cards right I might get lucky and hit an OIL tag at some point in my life and if not I should be able to grab a general deer tag any year I feel like, probably do 1 or 2 pronghorn tags and a couple of lower tier LE deer and elk tags before I’m too old to do this anymore(I’ve probably got at least 35 good years left in me). When I compare it to my choice to jump into Nevada’s points game 2 years ago I feel much better about Utah actually, in Nevada I got 4 points last year and each one cost me $51.25, I’m hoping that this year with their new 365 day license I’ll be able to grab points without paying the $155 license but I don’t think it’s gonna work. If so I’ll probably ditch Nevada as the sunk cost will just be too much for me to justify
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I get your math on cost but do you think a general tag or lower tier le unit will be any better than investing that time and money in Idaho? I am not sure those kind of tags would be any better than what we can do otc?This is what I struggle with every year especially when you consider knowledge of your hunting area which for me has been huge factor in success. I am not sure it’s worth it unless you could get a premium tag which I don’t think I could ever catch up in my lifetime
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I have been thinking about this. I don’t want this to come off the wrong way and want different viewpoints as I am slowly adding in some out of state draws. We can shoot 2 deer,2 elk, 2 bear, 2 lions and unlimited bobcats(in season) unlimited coyotes and I can legally tag 10 wolves. Not to mention 5 turkey s ,ducks etc. do you really need another tag out of state that might be of equal or less quality than what you can do here? I hunt all seasons in Idaho and was thinking you focus on deer? Just trying to put it together on these out of state apps and what makes sense for me. Seems like a lot of hype surrounding the western states apps which I understand for someone in New Jersey just not sure it makes sense for Idaho residents. I can easily get caught up in the hype
I love Idaho, I think it's one of, if not the most hunter friendly state in the nation with more opportunity than any other lower 48 state. You are being smart, you should be careful with other state draws, go for the hunts that will give you a chance at a real good bull or don't bother, the same is true with deer! :tup:
:tup: thanks for the input!
Post by: BeerBugler on May 13, 2019, 09:14:28 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 13, 2019, 08:57:56 PM
Post by: High Climber on May 13, 2019, 09:03:22 PM
Yep, just checked the regs and pricing, it should be multi-season elk. :IBCOOL:Congrats, which tag did you pull?
Post by: cem3434 on May 13, 2019, 09:12:42 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 13, 2019, 09:57:11 PM
Post by: huntnnw on May 13, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
Post by: bearpaw on May 13, 2019, 11:35:48 PM
Yep, just checked the regs and pricing, it should be multi-season elk. :IBCOOL:Congrats, which tag did you pull?
Just got the notice this evening: Wasatch Multi-Season Bull
I think I had 19 points, it's not the best tag in Utah but we've put every hunter we've had in the past in that unit on bulls over 320. Top end bulls for that unit are about 370-380. I know the unit real well and have not set my expectations too high, I'm just hoping to take one more good looking mountable bull myself and have a good time doing it. Even if for some reason I don't find the one that i want to take, it will be a good time, I love hunting elk in Utah and we've had some great hunts in that unit, I know it will be a good time.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 14, 2019, 06:04:37 AM
Post by: boneaddict on May 14, 2019, 06:23:02 AM
No card hits either. :(
Post by: 180-GRAIN on May 14, 2019, 06:29:18 AM
No emails or nothing posted for me yet. :dunno:
No card hits either. :(
:yeah: me either. Guess we drew sheep or moose or something :dunno:
Post by: grundy53 on May 14, 2019, 06:36:08 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on May 14, 2019, 07:17:51 AM
Will you be hunting solo on this hunt?
No, my son and some of my guides will probably be going along at various times, however we can work the fall schedule to allow some of them to come between our scheduled guided hunts. I enjoy hunting with other people and having my son and friends (some of my longtime guides) along will make the hunt twice as meaningful. I can hunt every season, archery begins in mid August, then there are three rifle seasons and a muzzleloader season scattered from Sept 14 to mid November. I'll have several opportunities to hunt for at least a couple days at a time. But I'll really focus on the early rifle in mid Sept and the muzzy in late Sept.
Post by: time2hunt on May 14, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 14, 2019, 09:15:02 AM
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Post by: CNELK on May 14, 2019, 09:18:50 AM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 14, 2019, 09:20:06 AM
I feel like the only person on the planet that has no Utah draw resultsThey forgot to add you to the draw :chuckle:
Post by: 2MANY on May 14, 2019, 09:35:37 AM
Post by: boneaddict on May 14, 2019, 09:38:52 AM
I feel like the only person on the planet that has no Utah draw resultsThey forgot to add you to the draw :chuckle:
That was seriously crossing my mind there for awhile.
Post by: Brushbuster on May 14, 2019, 09:42:48 AM
I feel like the only person on the planet that has no Utah draw resultsThey forgot to add you to the draw :chuckle:
That was seriously crossing my mind there for awhile.
Still no results for me either or CC charges. Think its a lost cause at this point.
Post by: mp.hunter on May 14, 2019, 09:49:44 AM
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Post by: Halo on May 14, 2019, 09:50:49 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 14, 2019, 09:53:33 AM
Post by: jamesfromseattle on May 14, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 14, 2019, 11:23:49 AM
There's always next year but the deadline for AZ is todayThat’s only for paper applications, if you apply online you have almost another month
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Post by: Bigshooter on May 14, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Post by: Apples on May 14, 2019, 01:41:13 PM
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Post by: Halo on May 14, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
Post by: lhrbull on May 14, 2019, 08:42:14 PM
Post by: jae on May 15, 2019, 08:05:30 AM
Congratulations to all successful applicants!
Post by: lokidog on May 17, 2019, 10:52:50 AM
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Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on January 06, 2020, 09:34:31 AM
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