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Title: Size this bear
Post by: ljsommer on March 18, 2019, 10:10:25 AM
I know next to nothing about bear hunting, any guesses on size from this print and droppings?
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 18, 2019, 10:28:08 AM
That's a hind foot print, one rule of thumb is that the width of the front track in inches indicates what the hide will square in feet.  The hind print is slightly narrower than the front.  My hand is 4" wide, your hand and the hind foot appear to be equal in width in the photo, so I'm going to guess a 4 1/2"-5" front width - an average size adult, 150 lbs give or take spring weight, approaching 200 lbs fall weight.  Not a monster, not a dink - if there's no cub tracks a shooter in my book.

LOTS of speculation in that guess :)

There is some correlation between scat size and bear size, but it's very imprecise and depends a lot on season and diet.  The largest black bear scats I've seen are about as thick as a beer/pop can, and for volume can compete with a horse - which I assume is a big bear.  That looks "average" to me, supporting perhaps an average size adult.

@saylean what say you?
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: pashok23 on March 19, 2019, 08:39:24 PM
Scat looks above avarage for sure. I've seen tons of bear poop in MT. Print is melted, hard to tell there, but not a big bear there.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: h20hunter on March 19, 2019, 08:49:43 PM
Shoot it then we can play guess the weight.  Likely not huge but I'd likely punch a tag given the chance.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: mountainman on March 19, 2019, 08:55:26 PM
That's a hind foot print, one rule of thumb is that the width of the front track in inches indicates what the hide will square in feet.  The hind print is slightly narrower than the front.  My hand is 4" wide, your hand and the hind foot appear to be equal in width in the photo, so I'm going to guess a 4 1/2"-5" front width - an average size adult, 150 lbs give or take spring weight, approaching 200 lbs fall weight.  Not a monster, not a dink - if there's no cub tracks a shooter in my book.

LOTS of speculation in that guess :)

There is some correlation between scat size and bear size, but it's very imprecise and depends a lot on season and diet.  The largest black bear scats I've seen are about as thick as a beer/pop can, and for volume can compete with a horse - which I assume is a big bear.  That looks "average" to me, supporting perhaps an average size adult.

@saylean what say you?
Width of front track +1" is approximate square in feet
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 20, 2019, 04:51:28 AM
"There is some correlation between scat size and bear size"

So is this a griz?

I agree on the medium size of your bear. the track has melted and the scat seems about average size. Still a shooter.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 20, 2019, 05:11:47 AM
That bear is 257 lbs.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: jasnt on March 20, 2019, 05:58:05 AM
Front track width in inches minus 1 then x 80 lbs has been very close for the bears ive killed in Washington fall weight
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 20, 2019, 07:10:11 AM
Medium Size
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: 7mmfan on March 20, 2019, 08:07:10 AM
"There is some correlation between scat size and bear size"

So is this a griz?

No. That there is a mess.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: boneaddict on March 20, 2019, 08:11:57 AM
Never judge a bear by the size of his crap pile. 


Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: cbond3318 on March 20, 2019, 08:13:19 AM
"There is some correlation between scat size and bear size"

So is this a griz?

I agree on the medium size of your bear. the track has melted and the scat seems about average size. Still a shooter.


@Timberstalker medium blackie with a love for Busch Lite?
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 20, 2019, 10:40:43 AM
Never judge a bear by the size of his crap pile. 



That should be on a t-shirt!
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: cavemann on March 20, 2019, 10:45:03 AM
being there are no chewed up mace cans or bells, it's a black bear...
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: Machias on March 20, 2019, 11:10:59 AM
Never judge a bear by the size of his crap pile. 
That should be on a t-shirt!

 :yeah: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: Birdgetter on March 20, 2019, 11:21:33 AM
I agree it should be on a shirt! @yorketransport
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on March 25, 2019, 01:10:22 PM
That's a hind foot print, one rule of thumb is that the width of the front track in inches indicates what the hide will square in feet.  The hind print is slightly narrower than the front.  My hand is 4" wide, your hand and the hind foot appear to be equal in width in the photo, so I'm going to guess a 4 1/2"-5" front width - an average size adult, 150 lbs give or take spring weight, approaching 200 lbs fall weight.  Not a monster, not a dink - if there's no cub tracks a shooter in my book.

LOTS of speculation in that guess :)

There is some correlation between scat size and bear size, but it's very imprecise and depends a lot on season and diet.  The largest black bear scats I've seen are about as thick as a beer/pop can, and for volume can compete with a horse - which I assume is a big bear.  That looks "average" to me, supporting perhaps an average size adult.

@saylean what say you?

I used to think scat size was an indicator...then I saw the pop cans my 4 year old turns out and changed my opinion...😂


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Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: 92xj on March 25, 2019, 01:18:50 PM
That's a hind foot print, one rule of thumb is that the width of the front track in inches indicates what the hide will square in feet.  The hind print is slightly narrower than the front.  My hand is 4" wide, your hand and the hind foot appear to be equal in width in the photo, so I'm going to guess a 4 1/2"-5" front width - an average size adult, 150 lbs give or take spring weight, approaching 200 lbs fall weight.  Not a monster, not a dink - if there's no cub tracks a shooter in my book.

LOTS of speculation in that guess :)

There is some correlation between scat size and bear size, but it's very imprecise and depends a lot on season and diet.  The largest black bear scats I've seen are about as thick as a beer/pop can, and for volume can compete with a horse - which I assume is a big bear.  That looks "average" to me, supporting perhaps an average size adult.

@saylean what say you?

I used to think scat size was an indicator...then I saw the pop cans my 4 year old turns out and changed my opinion...😂


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No kidding!
My 8 month old just gave birth to a mini nerf football this weekend.  I have no idea how that is possible.
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 25, 2019, 03:25:34 PM
That's a hind foot print, one rule of thumb is that the width of the front track in inches indicates what the hide will square in feet.  The hind print is slightly narrower than the front.  My hand is 4" wide, your hand and the hind foot appear to be equal in width in the photo, so I'm going to guess a 4 1/2"-5" front width - an average size adult, 150 lbs give or take spring weight, approaching 200 lbs fall weight.  Not a monster, not a dink - if there's no cub tracks a shooter in my book.

LOTS of speculation in that guess :)

There is some correlation between scat size and bear size, but it's very imprecise and depends a lot on season and diet.  The largest black bear scats I've seen are about as thick as a beer/pop can, and for volume can compete with a horse - which I assume is a big bear.  That looks "average" to me, supporting perhaps an average size adult.

@saylean what say you?

I used to think scat size was an indicator...then I saw the pop cans my 4 year old turns out and changed my opinion...😂


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No kidding!
My 8 month old just gave birth to a mini nerf football this weekend.  I have no idea how that is possible.
Very true!  I remember many moments of utter amazement when my son was little - how? what? how is it I'm not seeing your guts in a bloody pile!
Title: Re: Size this bear
Post by: Timberstalker on March 25, 2019, 03:35:31 PM
"There is some correlation between scat size and bear size"

So is this a griz?

I agree on the medium size of your bear. the track has melted and the scat seems about average size. Still a shooter.


@Timberstalker medium blackie with a love for Busch Lite?

This is ridiculous! He probably drank a damn IPA!

Go kill that bear and let us know how big he is!
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