Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2019, 04:19:54 PM
Do people like the double door options? Why or why not?
What about the an awning?? looks nice...would you do the sides on an awning? How big of an awning?
Anything else??
Thanks
Johnny
Post by: bowhunterforever on March 20, 2019, 04:22:14 PM
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Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2019, 04:49:53 PM
We bought a 16x20 tent two years ago and it is awesome. I can't recall the brand but can edit when I remember. It has 5' walls which I think is a must and just one window which is plenty. We do have it set up so that we can add extra frame off the front to add a cooking/storage area but doubt we will use it since there is so much room inside. 14x16 is plenty big for most scenarios and also makes it easier to find suitable spots to set the tent.
The tent I had was a 16x20 with 5' walls. We called it the circus tent.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: It was plenty big for sleeping, eating, cooking etc. The only negative....and I mean only negative....was how much it weighed. Holy moly was that thing heavy and a minimum 2 person set up.
My buddy has a 14x16 which is very comfortable for 2-3 hunters....much more than that and it gets tight for space. My thought is a really nice 14x16 or 15x15 with a smaller 12 x12 for cooking / storage when we take a truck load of people. Who knows....maybe after this thread, I will be swayed to go big again. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on March 20, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
Post by: C-Money on March 20, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
Have you given any thought towards a Kodiak?
I haven't....primarily because they are smaller than I am looking for. They do make one huge tent......but I don't know anthing about them. Pros vs Cons for a person that owns one??
Post by: huntnfmly on March 20, 2019, 04:55:37 PM
Had the vinyl floor insert from davis was great and worth every cent. Sod cloth, storm flap with buckles on both doors in case zipper fails.
Post by: jrebel on March 20, 2019, 04:56:55 PM
After owning a Cabelas synthetic wall tent I can't imagine going back to canvas.
Are you refering to the alaknak tents? A ton of reviews show they get holes in them fairly easily. I love the idea of light(er) weight, but also want durrability. This will be a truck camping tent so weight, though considered, is less an issue than durrability.
Is there another option that I am missing with cabalas synthetic?
Post by: Dale Gribble on March 20, 2019, 05:00:57 PM
Post by: C-Money on March 20, 2019, 05:06:59 PM
http://www.kodiakcanvas.com/flex-bow-tents/
Post by: Stein on March 20, 2019, 05:16:03 PM
After owning a Cabelas synthetic wall tent I can't imagine going back to canvas.
Are you refering to the alaknak tents? A ton of reviews show they get holes in them fairly easily. I love the idea of light(er) weight, but also want durrability. This will be a truck camping tent so weight, though considered, is less an issue than durrability.
Is there another option that I am missing with cabalas synthetic?
I don't know about the reviews, the one I have is very durable and I'm pretty rough with it. With natural materials, you can also get holes plus fun stuff like mold and rot and more prone to leaking. I have a smaller one than mentioned here, but I can roll up to the site and set it up myself in about 20 minutes without breaking a sweat. When I roll it up, it doesn't have to be perfectly dry or clean.
With synthetic, you also get benefits like windows, screens doors and windows, pockets, easy to use poles, hooks to hang lights and dry cords, insect and rodent proof and other stuff found in normal tents.
I have six seasons in mine and I can't think of any wear and I use it during hunting season and another week during the summer.
They don't have the same old-timey feeling to them, but man are they easier to take care of and set up. I don't know that they are much lighter, they still weigh a ton.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 20, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
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Post by: The scout on March 20, 2019, 05:42:53 PM
Post by: The scout on March 20, 2019, 05:46:27 PM
Alaknak, lighter, and NO mold
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Until your breath freezes to the tent while your sleeping then light the stove off in the morning and it’s raining inside the tent. Soon as the stove goes out they start condensation immediately.
Post by: Wa hunter on March 20, 2019, 05:48:02 PM
Post by: RightPlace-RightTime on March 20, 2019, 05:58:39 PM
Love mine
Post by: bigsads on March 20, 2019, 06:16:25 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 20, 2019, 06:32:24 PM
:yeah: I sold my wall tent canvas wall tent after about 12 hours of scrubbing off the mold after I had put it away completely dry. With the Alaknak or synthetic tent you just need to buy the roof protector or do what we did to ours and cover the entire tent with a tarp which should be done anyway it helps with any condensation. If I had the time and the space like a barn to hang my wall tent up after each use I might consider going back to canvas but storing and caring for the Alaknak can’t get much easier than that.After owning a Cabelas synthetic wall tent I can't imagine going back to canvas.
Are you refering to the alaknak tents? A ton of reviews show they get holes in them fairly easily. I love the idea of light(er) weight, but also want durrability. This will be a truck camping tent so weight, though considered, is less an issue than durrability.
Is there another option that I am missing with cabalas synthetic?
I don't know about the reviews, the one I have is very durable and I'm pretty rough with it. With natural materials, you can also get holes plus fun stuff like mold and rot and more prone to leaking. I have a smaller one than mentioned here, but I can roll up to the site and set it up myself in about 20 minutes without breaking a sweat. When I roll it up, it doesn't have to be perfectly dry or clean.
With synthetic, you also get benefits like windows, screens doors and windows, pockets, easy to use poles, hooks to hang lights and dry cords, insect and rodent proof and other stuff found in normal tents.
I have six seasons in mine and I can't think of any wear and I use it during hunting season and another week during the summer.
They don't have the same old-timey feeling to them, but man are they easier to take care of and set up. I don't know that they are much lighter, they still weigh a ton.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 20, 2019, 06:34:15 PM
I have spent so far 120 days in the tents and been in several heavy rain storms.
I think you need to first have a conversation with self.
How important is canvas weight to you?
Will you really be in severe conditions?
Do you really need a steel frame or can aluminum work?
Will you always have help setting up or on your own?
Do you have a place to dry out the canvas tent after use?
One of mine is made by Reliable Tent and Awnwing . 5oz canvas duck
Aluminum frame
One door
One window.
Snap in floor
Very well made.
My other
Tent Shop bought used from a buddy.
10 oz Canvas duck
Two windows
Two doors
Heavy vinyl floor.
Steel frame
The first tent is easy to set up and is a quarter of the weight of the 2 nd.
I prefer the aluminum frame to the steel because of weight and because the rafters are two part rather than one long rafter. Way easy to transport. The aluminum frame stay together better during set up than the steel.
I prefer one door over two in fowl weather as the single door seems just snugger on the frame.
I use a dog stove in one a cylinder in the other and I like the square Dog stoves better.
I think the average guy could get along with a plastic tarp floor and ground tarp just fine.
I think the stitching on door zippers is better on the Reliable tent than the Tent Shop Tent.
The Reliable tent came with quality stakes better than what came with the tent shop tent. So much better I got another set to have the same for both tents.
I like the heavy tie down loops at eaves o. Reliable Tent better.
The first tent has a tie in bug screen I ordered. The 2 d tent bug screen at both doors is sewen in. I like the sewn in better.
I prefer the the stove jack to the right inside door.
Both tents could be set up without frame and only Ridge pole.
I do t like the way the stove jack flap ties up out of the way on either tent.
The Reliable tent was 10x12 . But the Tent Shop tent was actually 11 x12.
Post by: Rainier10 on March 20, 2019, 06:54:59 PM
Main tent is 15x15 with 5’ walls.
Zipper doors on both ends and a stove pipe hole on opposite corners. This way you can roll the tent out on the frame and always have the door facing the right way and have an option of where to put the stove.
Then I have a three sided 15x9, wish I would have gone 15x10 so I didn’t have one set of 4’6” pieces and all the rest 5’, lesson learned. The 15x9 attaches to the 15x15 at the open side and the door goes out. This is our cooking area. I can close the door on the main tent and just heat that area or open the door and heat the whole thing.
I got a door panel piece to add onto the 15x9 so it can be a stand alone cookshack if i don’t have room to set the whole thing up 15x24 or a spike camp tent.
Both tents have removable floor and high wind belt sewn over the tie down loops.
I use 20” long Fence T posts as stakes and ratchet motorcycle straps to tie it down.
I have a 16x25 White nylon snow fly that covers the whole thing.
I heat it with a cylinder stove, outfitter is the size I think.
I have had it for 15 years and absolutely love it.
Only regret is not making that cook shack 10x15 so all the parts interchanged.
Post by: pawpaw1934 on March 20, 2019, 07:06:51 PM
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Post by: Bigshooter on March 20, 2019, 08:57:46 PM
After owning a Cabelas synthetic wall tent I can't imagine going back to canvas.
After using my buddies cabelas synthetic I dont know why anyone would waste money on one.
Post by: huntnnw on March 20, 2019, 10:47:02 PM
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Post by: skeeter 20i on March 21, 2019, 06:43:15 AM
I believe an equally important piece is going to be the wall tent stove, I would suggest a Qwick Camp Inferno. It's always easy to damper it down and open a window but it stinks to undersize and have to add wood every 3-4 hours been there, done that. I oversized this time with a 4 dog and love it, but I don't believe they are making that type of stove anymore I think they went all Ti stoves.
Post by: bracer40 on March 21, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
I like the floor being stitched in as a part of the tent, high quality material, ease of setup/take down, and the price. I have had mine in a constant light rain, no leaks. Never had mine in any "storms", but have a reputation of holding up well. They are small, and the one I have 3 hunters would be a bit of a squeeze comfortably. I have the 10x14 flex bow
http://www.kodiakcanvas.com/flex-bow-tents/
I also own the 10x14.
Pros:
Easy up&down by myself
Packed weight 60-70#s
After 8 years in rain, snow high winds=never a problem
Decent ventilation
Comfortable space for two
Cons:
No stove jack (can be done, see 92xj’s thread on his)
Awning fills w/water when raining
Huge PITA to dry out before storage
Post by: Booner on March 22, 2019, 01:31:40 PM
Going on about 10 years, still like new.
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Post by: elksnout on March 22, 2019, 08:24:47 PM
Elksnout
Post by: Jason on March 22, 2019, 09:20:10 PM
Davis all the way. 14x16x5. Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Heat, rain, heavy wind and snow. Ordered it with a side wall stove jack. Seen too many leakers in a roof jack in heavy rain. I fabbed up a cylinder stove. Buy Idaho fire logs from Coastal. Two to three logs burn all night. Wake up to heat. Use 4x8 sheets of OSB for the floor with a RV carpet laid over that. They nestle perfectly into the 4x8 utility trailer. Love elk camp!Davis tent here too, 16x20. It has been a great tent. I went with two stove jacks, one in the wall and one in the roof. I use the roof one 95% of the time.
Elksnout
Elksnout and I picked up our tents the same night at the sportsman show in Portland many years ago now. I remember him asking me if I was on Hunting-Washington..lol
Post by: elksnout on March 23, 2019, 08:18:49 PM
Davis all the way. 14x16x5. Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Heat, rain, heavy wind and snow. Ordered it with a side wall stove jack. Seen too many leakers in a roof jack in heavy rain. I fabbed up a cylinder stove. Buy Idaho fire logs from Coastal. Two to three logs burn all night. Wake up to heat. Use 4x8 sheets of OSB for the floor with a RV carpet laid over that. They nestle perfectly into the 4x8 utility trailer. Love elk camp!Davis tent here too, 16x20. It has been a great tent. I went with two stove jacks, one in the wall and one in the roof. I use the roof one 95% of the time.
Elksnout
Elksnout and I picked up our tents the same night at the sportsman show in Portland many years ago now. I remember him asking me if I was on Hunting-Washington..lol
I remember well Jason. I've moved from Camas out to Yacolt.
Post by: jrebel on March 27, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
Also went crazy and bought a Kodiak Deluxe Flex Bow 10x14 for quicker 1-3 day hunts with smaller parties. Also plan on using it as a kids tent on bigger weekends and possible a eating / cook shack.
Can't wait to be back in a wall tent.
Jrebel
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Post by: Rainier10 on March 27, 2019, 02:53:37 PM
Made the call a few days ago and will be going with the Bravo Super Grade 15x18 with all the bells and whistles. Build should start early June and be ready for August Bear!!You will not be disappointed. Congrats on a great choice.
Also went crazy and bought a Kodiak Deluxe Flex Bow 10x14 for quicker 1-3 day hunts with smaller parties. Also plan on using it as a kids tent on bigger weekends and possible a eating / cook shack.
Can't wait to be back in a wall tent.
Jrebel
Post by: Booner on March 27, 2019, 06:30:48 PM
I have the same setups. 15x18 Bravo and the Kodiak 10x14. Love them both. High wind option on the Bravo is awesome for extra tie down strength along the edges.
We have an extra angle kit from John and run a 15x10 awning/vestibule off the wall tent, cover that with a white heavy duty tarp and good to go. (cut the awning frame a little longer so the tarp rides a but higher than the tent).
I also have the Kodiak vestibule which provides a little more coverage of the front, really happy with this setup for family trips.
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Post by: jrebel on March 27, 2019, 07:07:27 PM
Good choice.
I have the same setups. 15x18 Bravo and the Kodiak 10x14. Love them both. High wind option on the Bravo is awesome for extra tie down strength along the edges.
We have an extra angle kit from John and run a 15x10 awning/vestibule off the wall tent, cover that with a white heavy duty tarp and good to go. (cut the awning frame a little longer so the tarp rides a but higher than the tent).
I also have the Kodiak vestibule which provides a little more coverage of the front, really happy with this setup for family trips.
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I went with the high wind package. The only decision I have to make is how big to make the awning. My thought is to order the Snow Slide longer than the tent so I can extend it to make the awning. I was thinking of doing the 15x24, but may need to go a little bigger. Everything is being made to be reversible with dual stove jacks (opposite corners), front and back doors with screens....so I can just turn the snow slide around to depending on the side I want to run the awning / stove. Both sides will allow for the angle kits to extend beyond the corners for awnings or to pair additional tends in the future. It will have a floor, two windows, stove package, high wind package, double door, webbing reinforced eaves, steel frame with added rafter for extra stability, extra angle kit for awning, room divider, heat shields.....etc. Really went all out as this will be the last wall tent I have to buy.....and will likely be able to pass it down to my kids.
Waiting for it to be built is almost as bad as waiting for my suppressors!!!! It is hard to sleep at night thinking about it. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Can't wait for the first hunting trip.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 27, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
You are getting me all excited.
My first trip this year in the tents is turkey season. Can wait to be in the tent for a week. Best sleep ever.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 27, 2019, 08:57:30 PM
Post by: C-Money on March 28, 2019, 01:14:47 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on April 02, 2019, 03:19:19 PM
I went with the high wind package. The only decision I have to make is how big to make the awning. My thought is to order the Snow Slide longer than the tent so I can extend it to make the awning. I was thinking of doing the 15x24, but may need to go a little bigger. Everything is being made to be reversible with dual stove jacks (opposite corners), front and back doors with screens....so I can just turn the snow slide around to depending on the side I want to run the awning / stove. Both sides will allow for the angle kits to extend beyond the corners for awnings or to pair additional tends in the future. It will have a floor, two windows, stove package, high wind package, double door, webbing reinforced eaves, steel frame with added rafter for extra stability, extra angle kit for awning, room divider, heat shields.....etc. Really went all out as this will be the last wall tent I have to buy.....and will likely be able to pass it down to my kids.
Waiting for it to be built is almost as bad as waiting for my suppressors!!!! It is hard to sleep at night thinking about it. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Can't wait for the first hunting trip.
That is a very nice setup. You'll be ready for the Zombie Apocalypse! The Bravo is a well-made tent; take care of it and you will be passing it down to the kids.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on April 02, 2019, 05:55:44 PM
with that said I am making a wall tent Hybrid, When its done I will be sharing.
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