Post by: PA BEN on April 04, 2019, 05:48:25 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 04, 2019, 06:04:47 AM
But let’s let ungulate populations tank because of bad intent and politics...
Post by: STARVATION on April 04, 2019, 06:25:47 AM
But then where would W.D.F.W. waste their money.
Post by: Bango skank on April 04, 2019, 07:21:25 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 04, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
And who is janice brookshire? Other than a delusional fool with a disneyesque view of nature?She’s a lover of wolves and apex predators... that’s all that matters to wdfw and the media . :sry: :puke: :puke:
Post by: buglebrush on April 04, 2019, 07:54:45 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 04, 2019, 08:01:52 AM
BS! First of all, any wolf killed won't be causing any more conflict. So, right there, she's stupid. And it's well documented worldwide that when you start killing wolves, they retreat into more seclusion from humans. This is exactly what's needed. Our state government's pandering to the Defenders of Wildlife and other radical environmentalist and anti-hunting groups is getting tiresome and the results...well, there are no results other than a siege of the businesses and families of the NE corner. I am adamantly opposed to poaching...until such time as the government fails to take appropriate action to protect our citizens and their assets. Delist and manage. This is so far out of hand it's crazy.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 04, 2019, 08:06:06 AM
“It is not a fact that killing wolves is an effective means of solving conflicts between wolves and livestock,” Ressler said.:yeah:
BS! First of all, any wolf killed won't be causing any more conflict. So, right there, she's stupid. And it's well documented worldwide that when you start killing wolves, they retreat into more seclusion from humans. This is exactly what's needed. Our state government's pandering to the Defenders of Wildlife and other radical environmentalist and anti-hunting groups is getting tiresome and the results...well, there are no results other than a siege of the businesses and families of the NE corner. I am adamantly opposed to poaching...until such time as the government fails to take appropriate action to protect our citizens and their assets. Delist and manage. This is so far out of hand it's crazy.
Post by: Bango skank on April 04, 2019, 08:15:51 AM
“I am adamantly opposed to poaching...until such time as the government fails to take appropriate action to protect our citizens and their assets.
Your criteria has been passed some time ago.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 04, 2019, 08:21:57 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 04, 2019, 08:41:02 AM
“I am adamantly opposed to poaching...until such time as the government fails to take appropriate action to protect our citizens and their assets.
Your criteria has been passed some time ago.
I am aware.
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on April 04, 2019, 09:02:21 AM
Have you ever looked into the eyes of a wolf? Why would I want to look into the eyes of a killer.
How else will you see your soul? I do agree that hunting wolves isn't effective. They should be destroyed entirely in Washingron. When they wiped out the indigenous wolves a hundred years ago they brought the wolf and livestock conflict to zero.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 04, 2019, 09:19:46 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 04, 2019, 09:28:35 AM
Have you ever looked into the eyes of a wolf? Why would I want to look into the eyes of a killer.
How else will you see your soul? I do agree that hunting wolves isn't effective. They should be destroyed entirely in Washingron. When they wiped out the indigenous wolves a hundred years ago they brought the wolf and livestock conflict to zero.
That's never going to be an option in WA again. We need to work within the existing situation and get people to understand that training wolves to fear humans will be the most effective deterrent to conflict. We accomplish that by killing them on sight when we have the opportunity. This is why delisting nationally and on the state level is crucial.
Post by: eastsidemallard74 on April 04, 2019, 09:33:58 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 04, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
Pman is full of wisdom!Have you ever looked into the eyes of a wolf? Why would I want to look into the eyes of a killer.
How else will you see your soul? I do agree that hunting wolves isn't effective. They should be destroyed entirely in Washingron. When they wiped out the indigenous wolves a hundred years ago they brought the wolf and livestock conflict to zero.
That's never going to be an option in WA again. We need to work within the existing situation and get people to understand that training wolves to fear humans will be the most effective deterrent to conflict. We accomplish that by killing them on sight when we have the opportunity. This is why delisting nationally and on the state level is crucial.
I’ll also say that someone’s opinion (professional or otherwise) should be completely written off when they start saying crap like seeing your soul in a wolf.
These things are nothing more than animals. Predators in a predator/prey ecosystem and should be treated as such. At this point they will not go away but should absolutely be managed and should learn to fear humans and civilization.
Post by: mtn muley madness on April 04, 2019, 01:02:10 PM
Not sure how they came up with the conclusions they did, but as of 2016 both major WA state universities that actually researched the wolf/livestock concluded that killing wolves did decrease said conflict so long as you kill enough of them. Sounds out of this world mind blowing, I know.