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Title: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 22, 2019, 06:32:48 PM
So I've set up an upper in 6.5 and one in .223 so my daughter can get more practice in on the .223 and then transition into the 6.5 for hunting.  She is shooting well but is having a tough time with the mil spec trigger which are junk. I was about to just order a triggertech comp that is set at 3.5lb but got digging and holy hell there is a pile of options.

So the question for all you AR guys out there.  What's my best bang for my buck?
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: huntandjeep on April 22, 2019, 06:42:05 PM
Best bang for the buck  Larue MBT hands down.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: daddyelk on April 22, 2019, 06:42:15 PM
I put a CMC single stage in my 6.5 that I got on sale at primary arms for 140 bucks. I bought it without knowing a whole lot about it but would definitely buy one again.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on April 22, 2019, 06:42:29 PM
Black rain ordinance drop in trigger all the way. 3.5# but feels a bit lighter when first putting it in vs mil spec
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: carlyoungs on April 22, 2019, 06:43:37 PM
ALG trigger. Think I paid about 80 bucks for one.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: 67 Halfcab on April 22, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
Don't know about "bang for the buck", but my Geissele SSA-E's are awesome.  https://geissele.com/super-semi-automatic-enhanced-ssa-e-trigger.html  If you wait, they come on sale.  I think I paid 160 each for mine.

The AR gun nuts at work are moving from Geissele to LaRue because of the price point and are happy with how they shoot, but I have no personal experience.  https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger/
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Alchase on April 22, 2019, 06:57:09 PM
If money is no option I would go with one of the Geissele SSA or other options. Wilson combat triggers are nice as well.
Lots of resent trigger on the market.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 22, 2019, 07:15:30 PM
I have built probably 20+ with ALG and Wilson. For there price point I really like them and build lots with them.

If your jumping up to next level $. Timney pof cmc are all solid choices.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 22, 2019, 07:33:00 PM
Hperfire Hipertouch 24 E or the Rise Armament RA-240 ERT.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: davef on April 22, 2019, 07:52:28 PM
Karl get the larue.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: emac on April 22, 2019, 07:56:20 PM
JMT saber

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Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Special T on April 22, 2019, 07:59:52 PM
Hop on you tube and bust out some sand paper, invest in a small file kit. For $20 you can get a file kit and play with sand paper. I've been pretty amazed what a guy can do with those basics... if you don't like it you can still buy one.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: hunter399 on April 22, 2019, 08:03:16 PM
Hop on you tube and bust out some sand paper, invest in a small file kit. For $20 you can get a file kit and play with sand paper. I've been pretty amazed what a guy can do with those basics... if you don't like it you can still buy one.
Agreed
They also sell replacement springs,
Enhanced trigger, for fraction of cost that sand paper can do wonders.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Dan-o on April 22, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
Well, gee....   I vote LaRue MGT, but if you check your PMs you already know that.     :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: b23 on April 22, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
I have a few of the CMC 3-3.5lb triggers and they have been great.  They can be bought for around $130 and are an easy drop in trigger.
https://www.centerfiresystems.com/p-15246-cmc-triggers-91501-standard-trigger-pull-curved-ar-15-3-35-lbs.aspx
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: fowl smacker on April 22, 2019, 08:26:09 PM
I have used lots of different AR triggers, by far best bang for your buck, heck, better than a lot more expensive triggers is the Rock River Arms varmint match trigger.  It's a winner, especially at under $100
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 22, 2019, 08:29:23 PM
Thank you all for the options so far.  This thread is a prime example of why this AR stuff is so confusing :chuckle:  bolt guns are so much better 8)  seriously though, the AR is such a versatile and amazing platform, especially for small shooters such as my daughter.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: opdinkslayer on April 22, 2019, 08:36:06 PM
Being a bolt gun guy Karl, I would think you would like one of the 3lb single stage drop ins?🤷‍♂️ That’s what I will be putting in my Grendel if I ever finish it!🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: MtnMuley on April 22, 2019, 08:42:58 PM
Another vote for the LaRue. :tup: Good guys to support.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 22, 2019, 08:44:48 PM
Being a bolt gun guy Karl, I would think you would like one of the 3lb single stage drop ins?🤷‍♂️ That’s what I will be putting in my Grendel if I ever finish it!🤦‍♂️
right that was gonna be my initial purchase but then got digging into the bottomless pit of AR crap lol.  I'm not so concerned about the price tag but dont wanna spend 2 bills if 1 will get me the same thing kind of deal
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 22, 2019, 08:46:22 PM
Another vote for the LaRue. :tup: Good guys to support.
apparently I'm buying a larue from dan-o but may end up with a triggertech, timney, or cnc too :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: opdinkslayer on April 22, 2019, 09:06:33 PM
 :chuckle: ya the whole AR thing is a bit overwhelming with the amount of parts available for the dumb things.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: jasnt on April 23, 2019, 06:09:00 AM
Polishing my mil spec trigger took it down to 3.5 lbs.  took about half hour. It’s not as nice as my timmeny but cut the pull weight to less than half.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: nutntoit on April 23, 2019, 08:26:28 AM
I have CMC single stage 3.5s in both my go to rifles and they are awesome. I would definitely recommend checking them out. Great company, made in America and customer support is top notch.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: hunter399 on April 23, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Polishing my mil spec trigger took it down to 3.5 lbs.  took about half hour. It’s not as nice as my timmeny but cut the pull weight to less than half.
If people got money to burn 🔥
But I got no problem sanding and polishing ar trigger.Just like changing a tire. :tup:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 23, 2019, 08:54:31 AM
I'd rather spend that time on the reloading press or on the trigger.for me, I'll burn the cash  :twocents:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: konradcountry on April 23, 2019, 08:59:00 AM
Some of the stock mil spec triggers aren't bad. Likewise I think some of the $200 triggers are overrated for the price.

You can find $500 ARs that will shoot sub-moa out of the box. But there seems to be a lingering myth that you need a $200 trigger to print clover holes.

I also think 2 stage triggers are weird on a semi but that's just a personal preference.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 23, 2019, 09:08:01 AM
Triggers make all the difference in the world.  I shoot well north of 5k rounds of centerfire a year. There is no argument that can be made that will convince me that a light, crisp trigger will not improve accuracy over a sloppy stiff trigger.  A good trigger can take an moa rifle and shrink it to half
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: dreadi on April 23, 2019, 09:42:30 AM
I'm into ALG triggers with the purple spring.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 23, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
Well I went ahead and bought dan-o's extra larue and I also ordered a cmc 2.5lb single stage.  Whichever she likes better I'll leave in her lower and then i'll toss the other in my prairie dog rifle to replace the polished mil spec one that's in it ;)  thanks for all the suggestions everyone :tup:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: konradcountry on April 23, 2019, 10:54:49 AM
Triggers make all the difference in the world.  I shoot well north of 5k rounds of centerfire a year. There is no argument that can be made that will convince me that a light, crisp trigger will not improve accuracy over a sloppy stiff trigger.  A good trigger can take an moa rifle and shrink it to half

Well no one is going to argue that light and crisp is equal to sloppy and stiff.

But there are decent stock triggers out there so for some people it won't make a difference if they spend $200.

It all depends on what you are starting with.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 23, 2019, 11:30:32 AM
Triggers make all the difference in the world.  I shoot well north of 5k rounds of centerfire a year. There is no argument that can be made that will convince me that a light, crisp trigger will not improve accuracy over a sloppy stiff trigger.  A good trigger can take an moa rifle and shrink it to half

Well no one is going to argue that light and crisp is equal to sloppy and stiff.

But there are decent stock triggers out there so for some people it won't make a difference if they spend $200.

It all depends on what you are starting with.
that almost sounded dirty :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: konradcountry on April 23, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
Triggers make all the difference in the world.  I shoot well north of 5k rounds of centerfire a year. There is no argument that can be made that will convince me that a light, crisp trigger will not improve accuracy over a sloppy stiff trigger.  A good trigger can take an moa rifle and shrink it to half

Well no one is going to argue that light and crisp is equal to sloppy and stiff.

But there are decent stock triggers out there so for some people it won't make a difference if they spend $200.

It all depends on what you are starting with.
that almost sounded dirty :chuckle:

 :o

Uhhhhhhhhhhh ok I just vote hiperfire then.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Craig on April 23, 2019, 05:34:55 PM
All my ARs have Geissele triggers. They are pretty awesome triggers.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Alchase on April 24, 2019, 10:26:50 AM
Well I went ahead and bought dan-o's extra larue and I also ordered a cmc 2.5lb single stage.  Whichever she likes better I'll leave in her lower and then i'll toss the other in my prairie dog rifle to replace the polished mil spec one that's in it ;)  thanks for all the suggestions everyone :tup:

I am sure you already know this,

Going from a stock trigger to a CMC or any 2.5 lb single, can cause unexpected premature discharges!
I have seen this many times at the range. Always seems to be within the first couple range trips, before they get use to the light break.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 25, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
I am a trigger snob, but this LaRue does not suck.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: yorketransport on April 25, 2019, 07:42:48 PM
The 3.5# CMC trigger is the only reason I tolerated my last AR.  :tup:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 25, 2019, 07:58:40 PM
The 3.5# CMC trigger is the only reason I tolerated my last AR.  :tup:
my 2.5 cmc gets here Monday. I'm anxious to see how it performs.  Maybe someday my midget kids will fit real guns but for now the AR platform has been an incredible tool to utilize
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: actionshooter on April 25, 2019, 08:31:45 PM
I am a trigger snob, but this LaRue does not suck.
If you are a trigger snob you need to try a Timney Calvin Elite or an AR Gold...  :)
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: b23 on April 27, 2019, 10:14:10 AM
The 3.5# CMC trigger is the only reason I tolerated my last AR.  :tup:
my 2.5 cmc gets here Monday. I'm anxious to see how it performs.  Maybe someday my midget kids will fit real guns but for now the AR platform has been an incredible tool to utilize

I'm interested in hearing how well you like that 2.5lb CMC trigger.  I don't think CMC had a 2.5lb single stage when I bought my 3-3.5lb CMC triggers but I've been very happy with the ones I have and they always feel a little lighter than they are.  I may have to look into getting one of these 2.5lb triggers from them.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 27, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
This is the trigger I have and I like it a lot. It's also on sale here.
https://www.primaryarms.com/rock-river-arms-national-match-2-stage-trigger
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 27, 2019, 12:08:23 PM
The 3.5# CMC trigger is the only reason I tolerated my last AR.  :tup:
my 2.5 cmc gets here Monday. I'm anxious to see how it performs.  Maybe someday my midget kids will fit real guns but for now the AR platform has been an incredible tool to utilize

I'm interested in hearing how well you like that 2.5lb CMC trigger.  I don't think CMC had a 2.5lb single stage when I bought my 3-3.5lb CMC triggers but I've been very happy with the ones I have and they always feel a little lighter than they are.  I may have to look into getting one of these 2.5lb triggers from them.
with how nice and smooth she is pulling this larue on our dry fire drilling in the living room I think regardless I am just gonna dump the cmc in my prairie dog rifle.  I sure hope it's as good as I think a $150 trigger should be :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: b23 on May 11, 2019, 01:19:28 PM
The 3.5# CMC trigger is the only reason I tolerated my last AR.  :tup:
my 2.5 cmc gets here Monday. I'm anxious to see how it performs.  Maybe someday my midget kids will fit real guns but for now the AR platform has been an incredible tool to utilize

I'm interested in hearing how well you like that 2.5lb CMC trigger.  I don't think CMC had a 2.5lb single stage when I bought my 3-3.5lb CMC triggers but I've been very happy with the ones I have and they always feel a little lighter than they are.  I may have to look into getting one of these 2.5lb triggers from them.
with how nice and smooth she is pulling this larue on our dry fire drilling in the living room I think regardless I am just gonna dump the cmc in my prairie dog rifle.  I sure hope it's as good as I think a $150 trigger should be :chuckle:

Did you get a chance to spend any time behind that CMC 2.5lb trigger and if so what are your thoughts and how does it compare to others you've tried/used???
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 11, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
The best way to put it is: Do you like a 7 pound stock AR pull or a 3.5 + - pound aftermarket trigger pull ? No matter what brand, because I'm sure all triggers are rebranded and sold under the big name companies names, but made by the same small mfgr. Mine are all single stage triggers and are smooth as butter............ :tup:


I bought mine from Joeboboutfitters.com. They have some fantastic deals on triggers.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on May 11, 2019, 08:01:32 PM
Karl, is the larue breaking at about 4.5 lbs?  The mbt 2s?
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: huntandjeep on May 11, 2019, 08:17:13 PM
Karl, is the larue breaking at about 4.5 lbs?  The mbt 2s?
Mine breaks consistently at 3.5 ( with the light spring)
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 11, 2019, 09:06:16 PM
I have 3 Geisseles (SSA-E, G2S, BRF) and 2 LaRues. Can’t go wrong with either. Depends what you like and what you want to spend.

I personally shy away from any of the drop in assembly types. Though I hope they never get used for it, al of my guns are built to function as defensive guns. I won’t sacrifice reliability for anything. I like having good triggers, but I’ll only buy something comparable in design or durability to a Mil Spec trigger. The SSA is a battle proven (the select fire variant is issued to SOCCOM) design for a quality trigger.
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 13, 2019, 07:41:58 AM
I'm thoroughly enjoying both triggers. The CMC went into my prairie dog rifle and the LaRue is in the lower that my daughter is using in the grendel and the .223.  The grendel is about done.  It was doing ok with factory but not amazing.  Trigger, brake, and some handloads fixed that.  I'm gonna try and milk some more velocity out of it but for now 28gr of h335 and a 123 eldm is shooting very nice
Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 13, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
Tried a bunch of them and settled on the CMC 2/2. They are a solid trigger, super smooth to pull straight through or 2lbs to the wall. Then they break like glass at 2lbs on the second stage, for precision work. I prefer the flat shoe model.

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Title: Re: AR15 trigger options?
Post by: ELKBURGER on May 13, 2019, 04:48:34 PM
Tagging. Putting a 6.5 together myself.
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