Post by: yorketransport on April 27, 2019, 07:42:44 PM
I'm pretty much done with the AT 3s now and I've got the replacements narrowed down to either the Toyo M55 or the Cooper ST Maxx. Close to half the miles I put on my truck are on gravel roads and I've been told that both of those tires do extremely well under those conditions. Does anyone have any experience with both tires and have an opinion on which one's better?
I really don't want to spend $1500 on a full set of tires, but I don't like having mismatched tires or tread. :bash:
Post by: bearpaw on April 27, 2019, 07:47:35 PM
Post by: yorketransport on April 27, 2019, 07:53:37 PM
I've had really good traction from Cooper tires but they don't last very well. I'm probably going to switch tire brands too, I'm also undecided!
I've had great tread life with them in the past on my trucks and I've used them on a Durango in the past and still use them on my Cherokee, but this most recent set (one tire specifically) has been pretty bad. I asked the shop about it when I this tire patched a couple weeks ago and was just told that it's wearing down because of my driving conditions. When I asked why the other 3 weren't as bad I was told that maybe that one tire was just slipping more in the rocks and that's why it was wearing faster. :dunno:
Post by: Crunchy on April 27, 2019, 07:58:24 PM
Post by: yorketransport on April 27, 2019, 08:09:05 PM
You running Wildpeak AT3s??
The Cooper Discoverer AT3
Post by: Crunchy on April 27, 2019, 08:55:14 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 27, 2019, 09:42:50 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 27, 2019, 09:47:05 PM
Post by: Antlershed on April 27, 2019, 09:56:20 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 27, 2019, 10:37:05 PM
Hankook Dyna Pro 10 ply
and
Mitchelin LTX 10 ply.
I loved the Mitchelin the best. More of a freeway tire, great wear and probably the best radial truck tire on the market.
I shopped around and paid right at $225 each.
Both are 275x70 x17
2013 Chev LT 4x4 with Duramax and Allison trans.
Post by: Caseyd on April 27, 2019, 11:18:36 PM
I like the Goodyear wrangler duratracks.👍this
Everything I liked about the coopers but last longer and do better in winter conditions.
Post by: Forks on April 28, 2019, 05:49:59 AM
Post by: b23 on April 28, 2019, 06:47:19 AM
It's been my experience load range E or 10 ply tires tend to wear considerably longer than the others. You pay for it in ride quality, particularly on 1/2 ton pickups, but they just seem to wear a good bit longer.
Post by: opdinkslayer on April 28, 2019, 07:21:20 AM
Post by: spoonman on April 28, 2019, 07:24:04 AM
Post by: bearpaw on April 28, 2019, 07:28:25 AM
After comparing tires for semi-trucks for 20 years and being just as bad for my pickups, this is what I swear by:
Hankook Dyna Pro 10 ply
and
Mitchelin LTX 10 ply.
I loved the Mitchelin the best. More of a freeway tire, great wear and probably the best radial truck tire on the market.
I shopped around and paid right at $225 each.
Both are 275x70 x17
2013 Chev LT 4x4 with Duramax and Allison trans.
Another hound hunter friend is running the Hankook Dyna Pro's, he had over 50k on them, that's pretty good mileage for a hound hunter. They aren't great traction but they are good for a lot of miles. There was a used set on a truck I bought and I got as many miles out of them as I'm getting with new Cooper STT's. But it seems mileage is never as good with aggressive tires. :dunno:
Post by: luckyman on April 28, 2019, 07:53:37 AM
Post by: yorketransport on April 28, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
Hey Yorke, I'm sure this is something thats likely already been checked, but the one that is wearing faster isn't by chance a different load range is it?
It's been my experience load range E or 10 ply tires tend to wear considerably longer than the others. You pay for it in ride quality, particularly on 1/2 ton pickups, but they just seem to wear a good bit longer.
That's what's got me so annoyed with this whole thing, the full set are load range E tires with the same date code. There's just one tire that's wearing down faster than the rest. This same tire has been punctured 3 times now and none of the others have had an issue.
After comparing tires for semi-trucks for 20 years and being just as bad for my pickups, this is what I swear by:
Hankook Dyna Pro 10 ply
and
Mitchelin LTX 10 ply.
I loved the Mitchelin the best. More of a freeway tire, great wear and probably the best radial truck tire on the market.
I shopped around and paid right at $225 each.
Both are 275x70 x17
2013 Chev LT 4x4 with Duramax and Allison trans.
I had a set of the Hankook Dyna Pros on my F150 for about 25K miles and they were great. I switched them over to my F250 when I bought that and I burned through the tread in record time.
I want to try to the M55s, but I can get the ST Maxx for almost $100 less per tire. Getting the M55s means I need to cut into my gun fund, and I really don't want to do that! :chuckle:
Post by: fliesitdies on April 30, 2019, 03:27:01 PM
Fliesitdies
Post by: C-Money on April 30, 2019, 03:51:15 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 30, 2019, 03:56:33 PM
I got rid of them. Certainly better tires for $1300 out there.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 30, 2019, 04:21:11 PM
Post by: TVHunts on April 30, 2019, 04:31:26 PM
Michelin Defender LTX MS2 my favorite tire of all, they are worth looking at. Good luck
Fliesitdies
The Michelin’s are awesome tires. I have a set of Good Year Wranglers mounted on separate wheels, studded, that are great in the sand and deep snow but, the LTX are far better in the rain, snow and ice. They also wear like iron on my 07 Ram 3500 Diesel. I can’t attest to how they would hold up on nothing but logging roads but they do see logging type roads each year for many miles and seem to do fine. I’ve never had a flat with them. :twocents:
Post by: gaddy on April 30, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
Another thing, I set my camber as close to zero as possible and set the castor as low as I can get away with, and set the toe closer to zero to create less drag and take as wide of turns as I can. Helps a bunch on the cupping issue a lot of tires have. I don't know about all these other tires but the BFG's have been good to me. Every thing from sand, to mud, to snow or ice.
Good luck on your search.
Post by: jdb on April 30, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
Post by: Badhabit on April 30, 2019, 06:06:06 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on April 30, 2019, 08:26:39 PM
Post by: bearpaw on May 03, 2019, 12:27:36 AM
I've run Cooper ST MAXX's on my last 2 Tundras, get 65k out of them. Awesome in snow/ice and mud. They'll be my next tire again.
They have pretty good traction too, maybe I'll give them a try next go around. I'm pretty hard on tires pulling big trailers quite often, but if I could get even 30k out of a set of tires it would be great.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 03, 2019, 05:07:34 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on May 03, 2019, 05:17:03 AM
I just tripped 40k on a RAM 2500 Diesel.
They wear excellent
They aren’t loud
Great traction
10 ply
Reasonably priced as well. I paid $1325 out the door for 35’s.
Post by: birddogdad on May 03, 2019, 06:43:02 AM
Post by: JJB11B on May 03, 2019, 08:58:55 AM
Firestone Transforce A/T is my favorite truck/suv tire....We use them on our type 6 wildland engines and they are a very tough tire.Thats what came on my Ram 2500 factory, I really like those tires so far. Seem to hold up well
Post by: h20hunter on May 03, 2019, 10:06:59 AM
Post by: yorketransport on May 04, 2019, 07:13:10 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on May 04, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
I ended up going with the ST Maxx. The local shop here in Yelm could get both the ST Maxx and the Toyo M55 but everyone there recommended Cooper over the Toyo. The Coopers were $75 less per tire too, so I went for it. Now to see how they hold up!You made the right choice, I'm sure you'll be happy!
Post by: highside74 on May 04, 2019, 10:53:22 PM
I ended up going with the ST Maxx. The local shop here in Yelm could get both the ST Maxx and the Toyo M55 but everyone there recommended Cooper over the Toyo. The Coopers were $75 less per tire too, so I went for it. Now to see how they hold up!
I've had cooper STT, ST Maxx with the centers siped, Toyo open country and now I have Goodyear Duratracs. I will be going back to the ST maxx for my next set.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 12, 2019, 11:27:25 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 12, 2019, 01:47:28 PM
I ended up going with the ST Maxx. The local shop here in Yelm could get both the ST Maxx and the Toyo M55 but everyone there recommended Cooper over the Toyo. The Coopers were $75 less per tire too, so I went for it. Now to see how they hold up!
I've had cooper STT, ST Maxx with the centers siped, Toyo open country and now I have Goodyear Duratracs. I will be going back to the ST maxx for my next set.
How are the ST Maxx better?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 12, 2019, 01:48:09 PM
I ended up going with the ST Maxx. The local shop here in Yelm could get both the ST Maxx and the Toyo M55 but everyone there recommended Cooper over the Toyo. The Coopers were $75 less per tire too, so I went for it. Now to see how they hold up!
What did the ST Maxx cost?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 02:20:43 PM
Post by: MADMAX on July 12, 2019, 03:09:48 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 12, 2019, 03:28:22 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 12, 2019, 03:35:41 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 04:20:50 PM
I can get 4 Goodyear Duratracks installed for $1012 on base.:yike: wow! 35x12.5x20”? That’s only for military personnel correct?
Post by: bigdub257 on July 12, 2019, 07:34:21 PM
I like the Goodyear wrangler duratracks.👍
:yeah:
Post by: yorketransport on July 12, 2019, 08:19:45 PM
I ended up going with the ST Maxx. The local shop here in Yelm could get both the ST Maxx and the Toyo M55 but everyone there recommended Cooper over the Toyo. The Coopers were $75 less per tire too, so I went for it. Now to see how they hold up!
What did the ST Maxx cost?
I ended up at $1380 out the door for the full set of 285/75 R16s. Not the cheapest set of tires I've bought, but not the most expensive either. I probably could have found them cheaper somewhere else but Walt's Tire Factory here in Yelm has always been good to me so I just got them there.
Post by: Threethirtyeight on July 12, 2019, 08:21:59 PM
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Post by: Mudman on July 12, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 12, 2019, 10:02:33 PM
I can get 4 Goodyear Duratracks installed for $1012 on base.:yike: wow! 35x12.5x20”? That’s only for military personnel correct?
26570R17, yes military, or DOD employees.👍
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 12, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
+1 for duratrac's use them on my one ton. Great traction and are way quieter on the road than they look like they should be.
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That’s why I love Duratracks, great traction and quite.😟
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 13, 2019, 06:35:33 AM
Post by: Alchase on July 13, 2019, 01:22:24 PM
I wish sidewall on Duratracs was bit thicker but traction, ride, mileage on half ton so good I keep running them as commuter / woods use. 150k miles on 4 sets.
That is only 37k average per set?
Post by: trophyhunt on August 23, 2019, 06:27:29 AM
Anyone heard good or bad on this tire?? FalkenNot a single word on the falken…. Hmm, I was already to get them Saturday but if huntwa doesn't approve I'm not sure now??? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Jason on August 23, 2019, 06:45:55 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on August 23, 2019, 07:05:05 AM
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Post by: Sandberm on August 23, 2019, 08:16:16 AM
We had two sets of Falken tires on my wifes Mazda 3 in the last 3 years, I don't remember which model exactly but it the Falken line up it was considered "best" tire. The tires were rated for 60k miles, first set got 22k miles, we got those warrantied and the replacement set got less than 12k miles. I will never buy another Falken tire.The tread wore out after 12k? Blowout? Cupping? Please explain what you mean when you say you only got 12k miles out of them.
Post by: Cougartail on August 23, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
We had two sets of Falken tires on my wifes Mazda 3 in the last 3 years, I don't remember which model exactly but it the Falken line up it was considered "best" tire. The tires were rated for 60k miles, first set got 22k miles, we got those warrantied and the replacement set got less than 12k miles. I will never buy another Falken tire.The tread wore out after 12k? Blowout? Cupping? Please explain what you mean when you say you only got 12k miles out of them.
I have a set of Falken MT tires on my 1/2 ton Ford. Drove up to Alaska and back. They now have about 8,000 miles on them and you can hardly see any wear. Zero cupping! I previously had the ATH3s and got over 60,000 miles. Best tires I've ever owned.
Post by: Mudman on August 23, 2019, 11:05:27 AM
Post by: Jason on August 23, 2019, 03:53:18 PM
Tread was gone, below serviceable limit. My wife was complaining of lots of road noise. I checked the tread and it was almost gone, I took it right to the tire shop. Just under 12k on them, and like I said that was the replacement set. He gave about 85% of my money back.We had two sets of Falken tires on my wifes Mazda 3 in the last 3 years, I don't remember which model exactly but it the Falken line up it was considered "best" tire. The tires were rated for 60k miles, first set got 22k miles, we got those warrantied and the replacement set got less than 12k miles. I will never buy another Falken tire.The tread wore out after 12k? Blowout? Cupping? Please explain what you mean when you say you only got 12k miles out of them.
Post by: thinkingman on August 29, 2019, 01:41:30 PM
I wonder if the truck tires would have a different rubber in them? That's not good to hear either way.I’ve have the Falken ATW3 on my F150 for about 16k.
I bought LT tires because the size I wanted wasn’t available in P.
The tires are excellent.
No sign of wear, even after a bunch of driving on basalt.
Quiet and smooth, especially for an LT.
I run 42PSI and air down when I’m going into the mountains.
Great tire and great reviews.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 29, 2019, 01:48:50 PM
Yea I change at 40k. Could go another 10k but don’t go into fall with 50% tread.I wish sidewall on Duratracs was bit thicker but traction, ride, mileage on half ton so good I keep running them as commuter / woods use. 150k miles on 4 sets.
That is only 37k average per set?
Post by: Crunchy on August 29, 2019, 01:49:11 PM
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Post by: HntnFsh on September 02, 2019, 06:51:11 AM