Post by: buckhorn2 on March 29, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
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Post by: HawkenBob on April 01, 2009, 04:19:54 PM
I suspect it will explode soon. Ill be in Camas again tomarrow thru Sat. And the next 3 weeks.
I also suspect it will open longer once/if the run materializes. And so do the reg 6 peeps. :dunno:
Keep your Kwickie wrapped and your fingers crossed boys. Ill post a report Sunday IF I get my home internet back.
I really wanna taste one. Gotta get one in the baot this week.
Post by: cohoho on April 01, 2009, 05:15:58 PM
Post by: fc2038 on April 01, 2009, 06:37:11 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on April 01, 2009, 06:56:01 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on April 01, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 02, 2009, 06:41:28 AM
The weather Sat is supposed to be great too. :IBCOOL:
Post by: HawkenBob on April 02, 2009, 10:58:03 AM
Post by: bankwalker on April 02, 2009, 02:20:24 PM
on my way home i seen an easy 80 boats headed south aswell. quite a few being pulled by rv's
Post by: HawkenBob on April 02, 2009, 03:00:40 PM
Post by: wackmaster on April 02, 2009, 09:21:08 PM
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Post by: buckhorn2 on April 05, 2009, 09:02:52 AM
Post by: cohoho on April 05, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Fished cathlamet for the last three days and hooked 14. Landed half of them can;t see how they get off those quickfish seems like they hook up on everything in the boat. It was windy and rained hard the first two days but saturday was really nice. had some friends who fished downriver from us several miles who did really well so maybe next week will be good.
Can I ask you a question is the kwik fish stock, meaning two sets of trebles on split rings. We used to take the trebles off add bead swivels and swash hook for kings and I did the same last season for Springers and didn't lose but one or two. I think they twist and turn so much they actually pop the hooks out when they are stock set-up. My thoughts anyhow. Sounded like a good couple days for sure... Way to go.... :brew:
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 05, 2009, 08:55:07 PM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 06, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Post by: klickman on April 06, 2009, 03:06:48 PM
Fished cathlamet for the last three days and hooked 14. Landed half of them can;t see how they get off those quickfish seems like they hook up on everything in the boat. It was windy and rained hard the first two days but saturday was really nice. had some friends who fished downriver from us several miles who did really well so maybe next week will be good.
Can I ask you a question is the kwik fish stock, meaning two sets of trebles on split rings. We used to take the trebles off add bead swivels and swash hook for kings and I did the same last season for Springers and didn't lose but one or two. I think they twist and turn so much they actually pop the hooks out when they are stock set-up. My thoughts anyhow. Sounded like a good couple days for sure... Way to go.... :brew:
:yeah:
Yep, get rid of the trebles. You will hook more fish but you will loose a ton more. The fish will use the hooks against each other. You may not hook as many fish on the sigle hooks but you will land more fish on singles than you would on trebbles
Klickman
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 06, 2009, 04:54:24 PM
Post by: cohoho on April 06, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
Post by: klickman on April 06, 2009, 06:24:37 PM
Exactly Klickman, exactly what I do to all mine, the second picture..... A good sardine wrap would kind of look like the old baits that our fathers had in in their tackle boxes, forget what they are called anyhow cut your wrap with a v at the end so it goes around the hook properly, you want it tight as possible with magic thread. Gloves, gloves, gloves at all times. I know others that don't buy into that but I do and it works greatly for Kings. I wash all lures with dawn getting anything of old smell off them, then store in a dry box, only touching when you got latex gloves on. Same for my beads, etc... I'd sit beside boats without gloves and catch all day long when they would look at use with confused peers... Got to figure those fish can smell their way from where they were spawned, they have incredible smell, so anything I can do to eliminate human, foreign smell I will... But your the one catching them so maybe you ought to give me some secrets....... :chuckle: :chuckle: Thinking of heading out this coming weekend...
I hear ya on the gloves and scrubbing the plugs
Post by: klickman on April 06, 2009, 06:27:02 PM
Thanks for the tip and the pictures I will try it and it looks like it would be easier to wrap the sardines. Thats the same quickfish we used only ours had the color on both ends.
When you rig your kfish use a barrel swivel on the tailhook eye for your larger plugs k15 and k16's. If you are running k14's or smaller and also mag warts use a beadchain swivel off of the front hook eye. Hope this helps
KLICKMAN
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 07, 2009, 08:58:38 AM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 07, 2009, 09:47:57 AM
Are your rods laying almost flat when in the holders?
Are your rods moderate and slow or fast to extra fast?
Here is why I ask. When a fish hits the plug he immidetly starts shaking his head. If your rods are high angles or too soft it will be too much give and he will just keep shaking. In this cold water he's probaly not being as aggressive as say 48 to 50 degree water. So he shakes and shakes cause he dosent feel a pulling resistance, as well he isnt getting deep on the plug causing the plug to come free.
By using fast, but preferebly extra fast rods layed flat almost he immediatly feels the resistance and turns and runs hooking him in the corner of the mouth were he should be hooked. When he turns he is setting the hook with the drag tension, not a floppy, soft rod.
Dont pick it up if its just bouncing up and down, let him turn and burn. And really set that hook deep in the corner.
We always say, dont pick it up till its peeling drag. Keep your drag about 6 to 7 pounds. You will tighten a bit as you go...
K-15's have exellent trebles. Rarely do I see twisted hooks. I know trebles work against eachother but if ya let em turn and burn you will be fine.
If your already doing all this then try Siwash. Id say 5/0 to 6/0.
Good luk out there. Dam counts are finally rising!
Post by: HawkenBob on April 07, 2009, 10:00:10 AM
Post by: GigPig on April 07, 2009, 10:53:17 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 07, 2009, 11:43:19 AM
Post by: klickman on April 07, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
As for using a faster action rod I have to dissagree. Yes you want backbone in a good plug rod but you want a softer tip so your plug will get the most action and when a king grabs a plug they will mouth it for quite a bit. You want to let them eat it and then turn with the plug. if they feel a bunch of resistance from the rod they will spit the plug more than they would with a softer rod. :twocents:
nice fish, I sure miss springers
Klickman
Post by: fc2038 on April 07, 2009, 12:00:41 PM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 07, 2009, 12:50:19 PM
"As for using a faster action rod I have to dissagree. Yes you want backbone in a good plug rod but you want a softer tip so your plug will get the most action and when a king grabs a plug they will mouth it for quite a bit."
Ahhhhh, thats why the HSR series from Loomis is soooo good. Extra fast backbone, light action tip. Transmits the plugs action but dosent slow it down like a stiff board of a rod or a slowwwww action rod. This could be a thread in itself. But not knowing, or using specific plug series rods its up for discussion and opinion. So I agree with you too. You have to have a light tip. I should have went into more detail...
Hence my usage of GL3 HSR 1021's. IMO, best plug rod ever. Gl2's are good too, just a bit slower in the tip from the fiberglass mix.
Post by: huntnphool on April 07, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
Post by: klickman on April 07, 2009, 04:21:00 PM
Hence my usage of GL3 HSR 1021's. IMO, best plug rod ever. Gl2's are good too, just a bit slower in the tip from the fiberglass mix.
Yep I agree. I don't own one but I have fishe them before with a friend of mine. Very sweet plug rod.
I will be trying a 10'6'' shimano cennan this year on the kenai with plugs. A friend of mine ran one last year and fell in love with it. Plenty of back bone and a very spongy tip.
Klickman
Post by: cohoho on April 07, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
Now does anyone back bounce eggs here for kings? Off dipsy divers? Wiggly Warts? FIshed Kwik fish alot, but sometimes went to wiggly warts, alot smaller in size, mainly in pink or bright orange..... When the bite wasn't there...
Post by: HawkenBob on April 08, 2009, 05:53:03 AM
This last weekend we used K-15s with a 50 rigged slider style and 50 or so feet of line out and had no problem dredging bottom in 30 feet of water in Camas. Its nice cause you can move thoughout the lines especially later in the day when there thinning. Just stayed on the kicker with the TR1 engaged. Just watch the anchor lines below.
Gonna try it again once there are more fish in the river. Like Friday hopefully.
With a 50 jet and a plug the rod becomes more of a nil point imo.
Cohoho, can you shed more light on the Kenia style and why they use the 50 with a k-16?
Post by: cohoho on April 08, 2009, 06:32:00 AM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 08, 2009, 07:46:50 AM
Its a 40 foot deep turbulant area so 12 oz weights and wrapped eggs are the norm. Dont wrap your eggs and there gone in about 5 bounces as its constant, never stop arm raising. the boat is going down so fast you cant rest. Grueling on the arm but limits galore! I mean up to 600 fish a day checked during peak.
Its getting later and later every year as the run timing backs up every year.
When the counts get into the 1000 a day get your egg game on.
Post by: HawkenBob on April 08, 2009, 08:25:59 AM
We used to fish the Wind and Drano on the 25th and never went unless counts were 5000 plus a day over the dam. That always happened by the 25th to the 27th.
Now people go with 1000 a day. But fishing is relative. I have Friday and sta left. Then 4 days next week for my final hurrah before I bring the truck, camper and boat home form its Washougal stay for a month.
The way its looking I may be shrimping this year after all... :tung:
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 08, 2009, 08:50:21 AM
Post by: HawkenBob on April 08, 2009, 08:53:32 AM
Post by: klickman on April 08, 2009, 01:25:10 PM
79 fish yesterday. This is dismal. It should be 1000 plus right now. Its gonna close the 22nd under Bonni. They probably wont open it again till it picks up in count. Bout like last year though...111 yesterday in 2008. :dunno:
We used to fish the Wind and Drano on the 25th and never went unless counts were 5000 plus a day over the dam. That always happened by the 25th to the 27th.
Now people go with 1000 a day. But fishing is relative. I have Friday and sta left. Then 4 days next week for my final hurrah before I bring the truck, camper and boat home form its Washougal stay for a month.
The way its looking I may be shrimping this year after all... :tung:
Thats not a lot of fish being caught. I have a feeling once the river warms up a little more there will be a huge push of fish.
As for using jumbo jet divers in shallow water, alot of that has to do line control. With boats on all sides of you you need to keep your gear near the boat. I personally don't use the jumbo divers unless I am backtrolling eggs. If I'm using kfish I will use 30's. that usually is plent to get down and keep the gear close to the boat. If you can get away with long lining plugs that is definatly the way to go but in crowded situations you got to use big divers to keep control over them.
Klickman
Post by: HawkenBob on April 09, 2009, 06:35:35 AM
After looking at last years late return, the numbers are right on par.
4-7-2008 111
4-8-2008 109
4-9-2008 180
4-10-2008 509
4-11-2008 1373
So I think this week will be outstanding compared to last few weeks.
Im hopeing. I still havent had one on the BBQ. All I want is one and Ill be happy. Leaving tonight for another hurrah.
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 09, 2009, 11:29:50 AM
Post by: cohoho on April 11, 2009, 10:40:41 PM
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Post by: cohoho on April 11, 2009, 11:52:39 PM
Post by: robodad on April 12, 2009, 11:38:23 AM
Seriously though, Big Iron and I had a great time fishing with you guys and although though the fish were less then cooperative the *censored* was overly abundant which was refreshing !!!
I took a few really bad photos so don't complain if you don't enjoy them !!!
We started off the day with a Chinese fire drill !!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1090.JPG)
Here is the fearless crew !!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1097.JPG)
Now it's time to get geared up for some springer action !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1114.JPG)
I seriously doubt a fish could weave its way through this without getting snagged by someone, It was like someone said there is a fish in the river and its in this location !!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1111.JPG)
I finally hook a fish and the captain snatches the rod from me saying I look like a school yard girl throwing a softball trying to figure out how to reel left handed !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1102.JPG)
Then Big Iron is trying to throw himself overboard with the net so this fish don't get away !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1103.JPG)
And the money shot !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1106.JPG)
For some reason the captain and his deckhand kept looking onto the live well at this "springer" they must have been discussing how they were going to split it up 4 ways !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1112.JPG)
Here is what it looked like from the inside looking out !!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1113.JPG)
The anchor puller !!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1109.JPG)
Then finally back on the beach for a 5 hour drive home !!!
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10689/IMG_1119.JPG)
Thanks again you guys we really did have a blast despite my overly negative summery !!!
Post by: cohoho on April 12, 2009, 04:03:26 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 12, 2009, 04:38:25 PM
Post by: robodad on April 12, 2009, 08:06:39 PM
As for targeting the wrong type of fish, You could have said "Hey you wanna go fishing for some dog fish in Quilcene Bay" ?? and we'd have been all over it like white on rice !!! :chuckle:
Next time ?? I figured you would have had enough of me breaking crap and hooking myself on your lures and cutting the crap out of my leg and making you and the deckhand do all the work with no pay, but hell yeah If you want to take me again I'm always up for some sand shrimp mutilation and torture, it was a blast wrapping their slithering little bodies to a hook with silly string and drowning their crunchy little a$$es, Hell I'd do that here but my wife don't like the smell and she hates it when I hook the dog !!! :yike:
I put the game wardens phone number in my phone so next time we don't know the rules we can just call him instead of everyone in your phonebook !!! :chuckle: